Simi Continues to Disappoint...

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I think the bulk of the audience would be happy if we had more Simi and Abhi scenes. A long time ago around the time the RB marriage was called off by RS, I was a staunch advocate for Abhi-Simi scenes. In those days Simi really cared about Abhi; that Simi would not have waited to see Abhi getting killed by Nukul before she would speak out; the old Simi got worried when she saw Abhi struggling with a mirchi pani puri. Plus, she was so distraught when Abhi was in the car accident she couldn't think of anything. That's the Simi I remember. Soon as Abhi said I love you, Simi changed and has not thought of him since.
Now that's she's married, I wonder will she cook, clean and massage his feet? I think she'll perform general duties but anything else? I doubt it. I didn't even see her ask him one time, how's your hand (amazing that it didn't require any stiches-Superhero Abhi is not just fearless, he's invincible - only kryptonite will stop him). She doesn't even care if he's hurting (I know he's young, but seriously, something's got to hurt. He doesn't even have a bruise!!!😕), Not once has she said, you did all this for me? Heck no. As usual Simi's caught up with thinking about her family.
Poor Abhi, even after getting married she still doesn't think of him. Simi's still wrapped up with her family. I wonder how long the poor guy is going to put with always playing second fiddle. 😛
As for your suhaag raat scene? I doubt we're seeing that anytime soon...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Give her some time rather than jumping on her. She ahs lost her mother and her family and come to unknown surrounding for the first time. So it si too early to judge her. She has not even spend few hours in that house.
It s not easy for any girl to leave her house and go to some one's house adn be comfortable. even though tis is with the man she loves.
Even abhi understood how she was feeling missing her papaji.
She was hit with double whammy here first she ws badly treated by manju and declared he dad. she did not get proper bidayi from her loving father and after she wnet thru with manju she needed her papaji to comfort her.
Lastly she was going into unknown as she knew how mR T felt about their rishta and there is no telling waht will happen next.
we can say simi is concerned about abhi after she has passed this separation from parent stage . it is like simi was attached by the cord with her parents and it is broken . But the scar and the pain remains.
shouldn't we wair to judge her.?
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Originally posted by: ramas

Give her some time rather than jumping on her. She ahs lost her mother and her family and come to unknown surrounding for the first time. So it si too early to judge her. She has not even spend few hours in that house.

It s not easy for any girl to leave her house and go to some one's house adn be comfortable. even though tis is with the man she loves.
Even abhi understood how she was feeling missing her papaji.
She was hit with double whammy here first she ws badly treated by manju and declared he dad. she did not get proper bidayi from her loving father and after she wnet thru with manju she needed her papaji to comfort her.
Lastly she was going into unknown as she knew how mR T felt about their rishta and there is no telling waht will happen next.
we can say simi is concerned about abhi after she has passed this separation from parent stage . it is like simi was attached by the cord with her parents and it is broken . But the scar and the pain remains.
shouldn't we wair to judge her.?

Why not? Excuses. Beyond excuses. Doesn't kill anyone to say thank you. Even caught up in all of this, a civil and well-mannered and educated person does acknowledge the other person.
Even in wartorn situations we have read of stories where victims extended gratitude towards those who helped. I think it's high time we saw some improvement in her character. It does make me wonder why some people don't feel this is an important aspect of a person's character? It would make Simi far more likeable, caring and understanding to all those around and just present her as self absorbed in her mission to help her family.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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A continution of my first post and not a reponse to any above...
Good people who have a big heart think about others; I have a good friend who despite her ill health, her exhaustion will always recognize the smallest thing that is done for her. Her thank yous be that in person or on the phone are always full of appreciation. She sacrifices herself or her family (much to our anger as we all know her children do not appreciate her), but she always has time to recognize everyone around her. That's what makes her a good and likeable person. If we saw more of a good-natured rather than ongoing self-sacrificial behavior from Simi, she's be a likeable character. If she was involved in helping others via charitable work such as tutoring poor kids, helping distraught women etc, then I'd say, what a big hearted girl, but this ongoing self-sacrifice a good and noble person does not make to me.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Laila2009

Why not? Excuses. Beyond excuses. Doesn't kill anyone to say thank you. Even caught up in all of this, a civil and well-mannered and educated person does acknowledge the other person.

Even in wartorn situations we have read of stories where victims extended gratitude towards those who helped. I think it's high time we saw some improvement in her character. It does make me wonder why some people don't feel this is an important aspect of a person's character? It would make Simi far more likeable, caring and understanding to all those around and just present her as self absorbed in her mission to help her family.

agreed but still I would say she needs a little time coming out of shock after shock. She has gotten many in few hours and may be more on the way with Mr T arrival.
I am happy she is out of manju's shadow and she should take this as a blessing in disguise I tis not easy for any daughter to let go of her mom. But it is high time abhi takes this opportunity and make her understand that since your mom disown you it is better that you pay attention to your real home now. any ways let us see what happens in next few days. Once they start their new life and as for honeymoon or suhag raat forgt it. it is not coming soon. it will be deifinately dragged.
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Originally posted by: ramas

agreed but still I would say she needs a little time coming out of shock after shock. She has gotten many in few hours and may be more on the way with Mr T arrival.

I am happy she is out of manju's shadow and she should take this as a blessing in disguise I tis not easy for any daughter to let go of her mom. But it is high time abhi takes this opportunity and make her understand that since your mom disown you it is better that you pay attention to your real home now.

Ramas, what is this with the "yes but." Either you agree with the fact Simi needs to acknowledge Abhi or you don't. Why is it so hard for you? If you don't then say so, but give me a break, I've never seen so many execuses since the day GWB decided to explain his reasons to invade Iraq. Plus Abhi doesn't need to be an jerk about anything; that last sentence was uncalled for in his character. Abhi's got too much class to reduce himself to that level; either Simi realizes it or Abhi is going to wonder if he needs to find someone else.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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I am in agreement with Laila in that Simi needs to do some introspection and realisation here, without any prompting from Abhi, which as you say is not in his nature anyway. As I had posted in another thread, the only thing that can redeem Simi now and salvage their relationship is Simi controlling her grief, taking a deep breath and telling Abhi -
nahin Abhi, main aur nahin ronewali. Ab main saari purani baaton ko bhool kar nayi shuruvat karna chahti hoon, Aaj se main sirf hamari shaadi par dhyaan dena chahti hoon, tumhe woh saari khushiyan dena chahti hoon jo tum mujhe dete aaye ho. Aur is koshish mein mujhe tumhari madat chahiye.
Or
bas Abhi bahut ro chuki mein apne parivaar ke liye. Ab aur nahin. Ab main khush rehna chahti hoon, khud ke liye and tumare liye. Main tumhare pyaar ka maan rakhna chaahti hoon, aur jab tak tum mere saath ho mujhe rone ki jaroorath nahin.
Of her own initiative and willingness, she has to put the past and her family demands behind her and focus on her marriage and on building a happy life with Abhi. She has to pledge that henceforth she will share all problems and resolve them together with him.
While it is understandable for her to grieve over what is happening and shed copious tears even, she is being totally insensitive to Abhi's hurt both physical and emotional, and even her mother-in-law's supportiveness. Like Laila pointed out, at the time of Abhi's accident, she was suffering her mother's oppression at home but still put her own troubles behind and tried to find out about Abhi. Oh Simi of the past, whither art thou gone?
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Laila2009

I think the bulk of the audience would be happy if we had more Simi and Abhi scenes. A long time ago around the time the RB marriage was called off by RS, I was a staunch advocate for Abhi-Simi scenes. In those days Simi really cared about Abhi; that Simi would not have waited to see Abhi getting killed by Nukul before she would speak out; the old Simi got worried when she saw Abhi struggling with a mirchi pani puri. Plus, she was so distraught when Abhi was in the car accident she couldn't think of anything. That's the Simi I remember. Soon as Abhi said I love you, Simi changed and has not thought of him since.

Now that's she's married, I wonder will she cook, clean and massage his feet? I think she'll perform general duties but anything else? I doubt it. I didn't even see her ask him one time, how's your hand (amazing that it didn't require any stiches-Superhero Abhi is not just fearless, he's invincible - only kryptonite will stop him). She doesn't even care if he's hurting (I know he's young, but seriously, something's got to hurt. He doesn't even have a bruise!!!😕), Not once has she said, you did all this for me? Heck no. As usual Simi's caught up with thinking about her family.
Poor Abhi, even after getting married she still doesn't think of him. Simi's still wrapped up with her family. I wonder how long the poor guy is going to put with always playing second fiddle. 😛
As for your suhaag raat scene? I doubt we're seeing that anytime soon...



Oh Laila, you are too fast for me. I just completed with 1 post of todays episode and I see that you have 1 more. Though I wrote about Simi & Abhi scene in your 'Simi's Eulogy' post, I couldn't pass this one, bcos you brought back memory of that old Simi. That Simi who always went to Matarani's temple and kept looking longing at her face asking when would she be kind enough to send a guy to ring the temple bell along with her. Those were days, oh! how I long for those days and that Simi.

I did have problem with that Simi & Abhi scene. This is what I wrote in that post of yours about that scene:
"I wasn't really convinced with Abhi (not Neil). For a person who just brought home his lover(or wife) after so much of drama, he needed more compassion towards his partner.
Creatives really made me disappointed again with Simi, very bad screenplay in those parts.
Simi and Abhi's was supposed to be a tender moment, but it lacked to evoke my sympathies, it was just very average. The dialogues and the screenplay didn't do justice for that scene."

In addition, in that same post, I also wrote "Neither am I interested in Abhi & Simi romance until they grow some confidence and depth in the characters Simi and Abhi respectively."

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Originally posted by: Bana

I am in agreement with Laila in that Simi needs to do some introspection and realisation here, without any prompting from Abhi, which as you say is not in his nature anyway. As I had posted in another thread, the only thing that can redeem Simi now and salvage their relationship is Simi controlling her grief, taking a deep breath and telling Abhi -

nahin Abhi, main aur nahin ronewali. Ab main saari purani baaton ko bhool kar nayi shuruvat karna chahti hoon, Aaj se main sirf hamari shaadi par dhyaan dena chahti hoon, tumhe woh saari khushiyan dena chahti hoon jo tum mujhe dete aaye ho. Aur is koshish mein mujhe tumhari madat chahiye.
Or
bas Abhi bahut ro chuki mein apne parivaar ke liye. Ab aur nahin. Ab main khush rehna chahti hoon, khud ke liye and tumare liye. Main tumhare pyaar ka maan rakhna chaahti hoon, aur jab tak tum mere saath ho mujhe rone ki jaroorath nahin.
Of her own initiative and willingness, she has to put the past and her family demands behind her and focus on her marriage and on building a happy life with Abhi. She has to pledge that henceforth she will share all problems and resolve them together with him.
While it is understandable for her to grieve over what is happening and shed copious tears even, she is being totally insensitive to Abhi's hurt both physical and emotional, and even her mother-in-law's supportiveness. Like Laila pointed out, at the time of Abhi's accident, she was suffering her mother's oppression at home but still put her own troubles behind and tried to find out about Abhi. Oh Simi of the past, whither art thou gone?



Superb dialogues Bana. 👏👏
I too agree that she needs to make sure she is not hurting her supportive MIL and her ever-supporting Abhi.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: Laila2009

A continution of my first post and not a reponse to any above...
Good people who have a big heart think about others; I have a good friend who despite her ill health, her exhaustion will always recognize the smallest thing that is done for her. Her thank yous be that in person or on the phone are always full of appreciation. She sacrifices herself or her family (much to our anger as we all know her children do not appreciate her), but she always has time to recognize everyone around her. That's what makes her a good and likeable person. If we saw more of a good-natured rather than ongoing self-sacrificial behavior from Simi, she's be a likeable character. If she was involved in helping others via charitable work such as tutoring poor kids, helping distraught women etc, then I'd say, what a big hearted girl, but this ongoing self-sacrifice a good and noble person does not make to me.



Yes, 'Good natured' and 'big hearted' are likable and is different from being 'self-sacrificing', which cannot be likable. Simi was good-natured and has turned into self-sacrificial. Hope she has this realization and yes, I too would like her to have her own self-realization. Yes, I feel I said this earlier too. She is educated and was a good-hearted person, they should have the knowledge of differentiating good and bad and the good for her in her new situations is to make sure she is strong and provides happiness and love to the people who care for her.

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