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Posted: 18 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: raj5000

Update team:

Team 1: Raj, QT, Tally Ho

Team 2: Gauri, Raksha, Myth, and DB Doll😃

Debate topic:

team 1: Money can buy everything.

Team 2: Money can not buy everything

Assuming one has enough money...can one buy everything using that money " Correction - Just enough for maintaining basic standards 😆

I disagree Raj. You can't change the debate premises at this stage now. Debating between what plush rich can afford and whet poor can afford is no brainer and no fun. Fun is demonstrating whether a plush rich CAN or CAN NOT buy everything using hie money.

I have been putting this point across since very beginning in my posts and on PMs too. If you want to change the debate premise at this point, then I would rather withdraw myself from this debate than go on and on on a non debate realted topic that you highlighted above.

We were allowed to change teams at any point...I did not realize thta even the debate premise can be changed as well.

Please let me know.

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Posted: 18 years ago
#72

Originally posted by: SholaJoBhadkey

Cheerleader no. 2 for Team 2. No amount of money can give me the joy that I get when my nieces give me a hug, when my students thank me for having taught them well, when an elderly stranger thanks me for helping him/her to step on to the escalator in the shopping mall... Just some everyday incidents that bring happiness to me 😃

Agree with you. This is the point we are trying to make here. All the above mentioned incidents did not take any money. You did not bribe your student to name his daughter after you. There are innumerable things that money can not buy.

Would you like to join the debate😊

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Posted: 18 years ago
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Yayyyy to DB doll and the birthday girl SJB...Bring it on ladies... 🤗 ...Lets rock the living day lights out of the Team1... 😆
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Posted: 18 years ago
#74

Originally posted by: Gauri_3


I disagree Raj. You can't change the debate premises at this stage now. Debating between what plush rich can afford and whet poor can afford is no brainer and no fun. Fun is demonstrating whether a plush rich CAN or CAN NOT buy everything using hie money.


I have been putting this point across since very beginning in my posts and on PMs too. If you want to change the debate premise at this point, then I would rather withdraw myself from this debate than go on and on on a non debate realted topic that you highlighted above.


We were allowed to change teams at any point...I did not realize thta even the debate premise can be changed as well.


Please let me know.



Yes Anshu, we can't change the scope of the debate at this point..The debate is only about what money can do or not do, right?
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Posted: 18 years ago
#75

Originally posted by: raksha.l



Yes Anshu, we can't change the scope of the debate at this point..The debate is only about what money can do or not do, right?

Hey no one is changing the scope clarifying the assumption. Debate is still

Team1: Money can buy everything.

Team 2: Money can not buy everything

Already one debator left earlier. Lets concentrate on this and other assumptions can be made but are debateable, orelse team1 has not much to say, will be one sided, don't you feel. Lets carry on instead of having bump mid way. If arguements are totally against whats going on from the begining then can be ignored. Yet to read few pages willl try to follow the direction you guys have been following.

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Posted: 18 years ago
#76

Originally posted by: mythili_Kiran

Opening statement for the debate(of Mythili):

I beleive that Money cannot buy everything.If Money can buy everything why there is lot of unrest in the wellsettled nations and well settled people's lives!

Money cannot buy Life!

Known fact, nothing can. Point noted.However if there is danger to life due to non terminal illiness then can be best cured by best of best facilities that money can buy, in a way factors out the risk of loosing life due to standard health care.

Money cannot buy Knowledge and wisdom! For that matter we cannot even buy the Intelligent Quotient!

Depends, if one can afford top class consultants to make your decisions and look out for you in return of high salaries then whats the differenence.

Money cannot buy the attitude!

😕 Why not?

Money cannot buy destiny!

If destiny is realistic then can be bought. Even moon journey is possible in today's world, 300K for the tourist trip.

Money cannot buy TIME

Why not? It sure can ...

Wishes,

Mythili

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Posted: 18 years ago
#77

Originally posted by: Gauri_3

sweetheart, please stick to red while making your points.

contrary to the stress on materialistic things in today's world, every now and then even we normal people get a taste of who the higher power is and how we can't buy certain things even if we are stinking rich.

An example to reiterate mey point:

My friend's house caught fire last summer. Everything was burnt to cinders. By nearly miraculous circumstances all family members escaped w/o a scratch. They claimed insurance and started rebuilding soon. In about six months, they were apparently back to normal as the new house was built, furniture bought etc. Going by your logic, her life should be back to normal as she had the money to buy all material things she lost in the fire. But the reality is far from it.

All her wedding and other albums also burnt.....only copy burnt with negatives etc. The pictures also included age old pictures of her grandparents and parents. She can't replace these things now even with all the money in the world. It still hurts her.

Her 18 month old grand kid was playing in the second story gameroom when he was picked up and brought down. The child was traumatized for a long long time and terribly missed his security blanket and favorite teddy that burnt too.

Everything that was valuable by world's standard, the money, the credit cards, the clothes. the furniture was replaced. But it were the things with personal emotional values like age old family pictures, her and DIL'S wedding outfits, the dress that the grand kid wore for the first time, the prints of the grand baby's l'il feet and hands etc. ....things with greatest value to her- things that money can't buy were lost forever.

Mind that, this is a well to do family with ample money....but they still grieve for the real treasure that they lost forever.

There are certain things money can buy but then, there are plenty others that no monies in this world can ever replace.

Anshu - Its all emotional aspects and mind block. Contradicting you statement here "we can't buy certain things even if we are stinking rich" one cannot achieve certain important emotional aspects or certain things without being rich.

Taking your example what are photos / alnums etc aren't they materislistic elements to capture emotional aspect or recalling memories.. well memory is natural wealth cannot be lost why depend of pictures. However if materialistic picture were of utmost importance then risk of fire could have been factor simply by buying a fire proof box. If ample of money then the moments of past could have be recreated not with same zeal.. but still something closer with the help of money.

*Edit , since not been addressed yet, being fair here.😊

Regarding the scenario you mentioned. First of of God Forbid this happens with anyone... what ask - If in case the insurance was denied due to XYZ clause - then would the affect party cared about the photo albums or the monetary loss? We all know the answer, see how important role money plays to think anything can be bought by money... think on higher side of it.

reminder: debate is not between no money vs. all money. Debate is, assuming you have enough, then what do you think...can money buy everything OR it can not buy everything. I demonstrated above that no matter how much money you have, there are certain things that money can never buy.

Edited by raj5000 - 18 years ago
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Posted: 18 years ago
#78

Originally posted by: Gauri_3

Agree with you. This is the point we are trying to make here. All the above mentioned incidents did not take any money. You did not bribe your student to name his daughter after you. There are innumerable things that money can not buy.

Would you like to join the debate😊

Not today!!! But I will come back tomorrow with my thoughts 😛

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Posted: 18 years ago
#79
oh i saw this post too late 😭 😭 😭 i guess its too late for me to participate
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Posted: 18 years ago
#80

Originally posted by: raunaq

oh i saw this post too late 😭 😭 😭 i guess its too late for me to participate

Absolutely you can join in. Am not saying anything other then Team 2 has more supporter and we are trying to have fun debate, for the sake of debate not necessarily throw personal POV.😊

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