|| Doubts and Discussions Thread: Shri Krishna ||

Posted: 3 years ago

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^^credits to Proteeti for this gorgeous edit!

Feel free to address any doubts you have regarding Ramanand Sagar's Shri Krishna here!

This thread is a platform to discuss the various plotlines of this show in comparison to the ancient epics themselves, whether one is referring to Shrimad Bhagawat purana, Vyasa's Mahabharata, Brahma Vaivarta Purana, or any other purana about Lord Shri Krishna.

Please do not use this thread to compare the show to any other mythological show, or the actors to other actors! This is only to discuss the stories of Lord Krishna as shown in this serial in comparison to the ancient epics.

Jai Shri Krishna!

Edited by RamKiSeeta - 3 years ago
Posted: 3 years ago

Is, it true  that   yadavas ruled because of grace of kaurav ? 

 It is mentioned in samb marriage  that kaurav saying that yadavas are ruling because of kaurav grace 



And kaurav also said that if yadavas come to rescue samb we will break yadavas pride  


Kaurav saying to balram in  insulting tone  that we allowed  yadavas to share our bed  share our meal 


When kaurav  allow    yadavas share their bed and meal ?  . When did kaurav show grace on yadavas that because of  grace of kaurav yadavas ruled? 



Kaurav said these words  to balram like sharing bed , meal when balram went to  hastinspur  and gave proposal to kaurav that he doesn't want fight between yadavas and kaurav  he  want unity and peace among kaurav and yadavas  so kaurav should return  samb  peacefully and also get  samb and laxmana married 

Edited by surabhi01 - 3 years ago
Posted: 3 years ago

RkS, thanks for making this!


My first question: were Vasudev/Devaki ever released from prison after the birth of Krishna?  I was always under the impression that they remained there, and were only freed after the death of Kansa and the restoration of Ugrasena

Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by .Vrish.


RkS, thanks for making this!


My first question: were Vasudev/Devaki ever released from prison after the birth of Krishna?  I was always under the impression that they remained there, and were only freed after the death of Kansa and the restoration of Ugrasena

They were released one time after krishna was born. See https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-dGlZCGsXVI, the episode shows Vasudeva going to see Rishiji and Rishiji telling him about Balram and Krishna. 

Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by .Vrish.


RkS, thanks for making this!


My first question: were Vasudev/Devaki ever released from prison after the birth of Krishna?  I was always under the impression that they remained there, and were only freed after the death of Kansa and the restoration of Ugrasena


From my understanding, they were released in SB but not in MB. But Lola would know this more than me.

Posted: 3 years ago

Yes  kans release  vasudev and Devki from prison when yogmaya   inform him  that tumhe maarne wala kahin aur  janam le chuka hai( ur killer  has taken birth some where else) 

So kans start regretting  and asking forgiveness from vasudev and Devki that I have so much bad to u both and then kans release vasudev and Devki from prison 


But after 11 years  narad ji informed kans that  krishna is actually son of   Devki and vasudev so kans again put both in prison and tied both with iron chain

Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by surabhi01


Yes  kans release  vasudev and Devki from prison when yogmaya   inform him  that tumhe maarne wala kahin aur  janam le chuka hai( ur killer  has taken birth some where else) 

So kans start regretting  and asking forgiveness from vasudev and Devki that I have so much bad to u both and then kans release vasudev and Devki from prison 


But after 11 years  narad ji informed kans that  krishna is actually son of   Devki and vasudev so kans again put both in prison and tied both with iron chain

Yes that was the one I wanted to answer. Thank you for reminding us. 


So yes as per RS version of Shri Krishna, vasudev and devaki were freed once and then Krishnaji freed them. 

Posted: 3 years ago

Kans releasing  vasudev and   Devki from prison after announce ment from yoga is mentioned in  shreemad bhaagwat too


https://vedabase.io/en/library/sb/10/4/

Edited by surabhi01 - 3 years ago
Posted: 3 years ago

Okay, since they're starting to show the Jarasandha wars, here's the next thing that comes to mind


In this serial, they've shown Shalya - as in the mama of Nakul/Sahadev - as one of the key people around Jarasandha.  It's he who gives him the idea of Kalyavan, it's he who encourages Jarasandha to keep fighting and so on.  Are we sure that the serial didn't make a mistake here and insert Shalya in place of Shalva, that friend of Sishupala who attacked Dwarka to avenge his death?


B'cos it doesn't make sense that Shalya would try to be such a major power player on Jarasandha's side.  He had a matrimonial alliance w/ Pandu, and meant to honor it w/ the Pandavas, except that he was tricked at Kurukshetra into joining the Kauravas.  But although he fought a disguised Bhima at Draupadi's swayamvara, there's nothing to suggest that he was one of Krishna's haters, like others in the group - Rukmi, Sishupala, and if one counts those not shown, Shalva, Dantavatra, Paundrak and his friend Kashiraj.


Also, according to SB, it was Narada who sent Kalyavan, who was looking for someone worth fighting (much like Dundoobi in the Ramayan) to Mathura to fight Krishna.  Kalyavan was no ally of Jarasandha: his presence just happened to be opportune for Jarasandha

Posted: 3 years ago

Maybe they mixed up Shalva and Shalya? The names are pretty similar, and it's easy to make that mistake.


I don't think Shalya was ever written anywhere as a supporter of Jarasandha. It doesn't make sense that he'd agree to come under Pandu's rule so easily when he had Jarasandh's support.



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