Naseeruddin Shah and Ratna Pathak Shah - Love Story

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Flashback Friday: Naseeruddin Shah and Ratna Pathak Shah - An unconventional love story of the last liberal couple



Bollywood industry shows us the good and the ugly side of human nature. We see a lot of relationships blooming as well as getting destroyed in the industry. Coming to the love stories, many Bollywood couples fall for each other on their film sets and after several years of dating they tie the knot or sadly part ways too.
 
But, have you heard of a love story which started off in theatre and have set an example of a beautiful one until now? Yes, we are talking about an amazing and unconventional couple - Naseeruddin Shah and Ratna Pathak Shah.
 
The couple has been married for more than three decades and their love story started off at a sugarcane juice stall outside a popular college in the city. When a weekly magazine asked Naseer about his first encounter with Ratna, he revealed, "I was first impressed by how clear her speech was and the fact that she spoke Hindi very well, which was a rarity in Bombay."
 
The couple went on to work together in a play by Satyadev Dubey titled Sambhog Se Sanyas Tak (1975), which flagged off their amazing love story.
 
Ratna added, "Getting to know Naseer was partly inspiring and partly disturbing. It made me aware of my shortcomings and how little I knew. That's what inspired me greatly to go to the [National School of Drama]."
 
Describing their relationship, she said, "One day we were not even friends; the next day we were going out together."
 
The couple had a registered wedding in 1982 at Ratna's mom Dina Pathak's home. The couple indulged in a simple wedding and talking about it, Ratna said, "Only our family and immediate friends were present. We didn't tom-tom about it because we both felt that there are certain things which are extremely personal, and marriage is one of them. But it was great fun. I think ours was one of the few marriages where the bride and the groom enjoyed as much as the guests."
 
This is Naseer's second marriage, he was first married to Manara Sikri and separated within the first year of their marriage. The couple has a daughter Heeba Shah, who returned to him after her mother passed away. Now, all five members including Naseer, Ratna, their two sons Imaad, Nivaan and Heeba live together as a happy family.
 
In Naseeruddin's biography titled And Then One Day, he described Ratna with beautiful words in the preface of the book.
 
The couple described themselves as the last liberal couple. While talking about it, Ratna said, "We are the last of the bloody liberals left. Today, girls are doing Karva Chauth! C'mon, that's what we fought against." While Naseer said, "Today, girls as young as two are wearing hijabs. Muslim boys are growing beards claiming it's a sense of identity."
 
Ratna concluded by saying, "We lived in much more liberal times where you were expected to have your own opinion. Now everyone wants to have one opinion"which is a dangerous thing for us."
 
Naseer in his biography titled And Then One Day: A Memoir, wrote some beautiful words for Ratna in the preface of the book. This short paragraph summed up the whole relationship of this hatke husband and wife. Check out:
 

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Ratna said, "We are the last of the bloody liberals left. Today, girls are doing Karva Chauth! C'mon, that's what we fought against."
While Naseer said, "Today, girls as young as two are wearing hijabs. Muslim boys are growing beards claiming it's a sense of identity."
 

That was very brave of them to say that... Looks like they are two like minded people, lucky to have found each other. 

And it's true, Ther're the last of true liberals left.

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Originally posted by: ---Betty---

Ratna said, "We are the last of the bloody liberals left. Today, girls are doing Karva Chauth! C'mon, that's what we fought against."
While Naseer said, "Today, girls as young as two are wearing hijabs. Muslim boys are growing beards claiming it's a sense of identity."
 

That was very brave of them to say that... Looks like they are two like minded people, lucky to have found each other. 

And it's true, Ther're the last of true liberals left.

Sweet couple ðŸ˜›
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Ratna concluded by saying, "We lived in much more liberal times where you were expected to have your own opinion. Now everyone wants to have one opinion"which is a dangerous thing for us."
 

Wow she hit the nail on the head again... That's so true... 

Nowadays everybody is expected to have the same opinion, if anybody disagrees, they're called all kinds of names 


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lovely pics.this was a memorable episode of JIKNH..
[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnfYXzOlLlM[/YOUTUBE]
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Originally posted by: ---Betty---

Ratna said, "We are the last of the bloody liberals left. Today, girls are doing Karva Chauth! C'mon, that's what we fought against."
While Naseer said, "Today, girls as young as two are wearing hijabs. Muslim boys are growing beards claiming it's a sense of identity."
 

That was very brave of them to say that... Looks like they are two like minded people, lucky to have found each other. 

And it's true, Ther're the last of true liberals left.


I want a husband like him:( 


And sooo true what they're saying regarding liberalism, it somehow always feels people have regressed especially in terms of social tolerance.. If you say something, you get called all sorts of labels, the world is really going through a very weird confusing phase... it feels like people are just sitting there to judge/shame you and point all the list of things wrong in your thought. Even if they claim to be liberal, the way they force their opinions on others does not look any where liberal.

Yesterday, I read an interesting article. Not exactly related to what they said, but very much relevant in today's social media world 

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An equal and opposite reaction



The enemy of the reactionary mind is an alchemical brew served up in the name of progress " liberal politics, theologies of social emancipation, multiculturalism

Ours is an age awash in reactionary fever. Words by influential political figures borrow from vocabularies of patriotism to provoke and incite in the name of return to greatness'. To this end, individuals at the helm of powerful societies are "standing athwart history, yelling Stop". They promise to halt change, reset the clock, and if need be abolish history itself. Many have mistakenly diagnosed this as a rise or a return of conservatism. But unlike the defences of eroding traditions by conservative intellectuals like T.S. Eliot, Michael Oakeshott, or even a William F. Buckley, today's reaction against an imperfect status quo is a full-throated, guttural scream. These reactionary responses that dominate our social media and politics have little patience for aspects of traditional conservatism that stressed a progressive refinement of aesthetics, exploration of the Self amidst tradition, or the cultivation of an attitude of incrementalism when faced with the prospect of change.

Death of expertise'

Oakeshott wrote in his Notebooks: "Anyone touched with the sense of mortality will be apt to be a conservative in politics." Our present reactionaries exhort and inflame their societies and the thin veneer of civilisation around them as if they were immortal. Whereas conservatism is an attitude towards life that relies on humility' of the intellect " a form of "attentive patience" as the philosopher Simone Weil described it " today's reactionaries are marked precisely by their willingness to deny the intellect its due. The result is what the scholar Tom Nichols calls "death of expertise".

On the flip side, the result of failing to distinguish between reactionaries and conservatives is that it produces unique blind spots and untenable lines of questioning. Asking of reactionary politics to produce intellectuals is to misunderstand what it is about in the first place. The Left exalts intellectuals because they seek to build models of the future. For the reactionary, there is already a successful model: the past. What any reactionary programme demands is revitalisers of the past and a conclave of interpreters to describe the promise of return. Much energy meanwhile is spent on op-ed pages asking questions like where are the intellectuals of Hindutva? " in hopes of showing that by failing to locate them, the reactionary mind is either to be derided for failing to make the mark or ignored conscientiously. It is this failure to taxonomise correctly " to demarcate the extent of our ignorance of a particular political mind " that has led to our near complete lack of knowledge about the reactionary mind. Failure to ask such questions leads us to being blind-sided by realities such as Brexit or Trumpism.

We mistakenly label reactionaries as conservatives for they both share a preoccupation with the past. But the similarities in content, form, and analysis end there. The conservative seeks to preserve the past while anxiously examining signs of change that may upend the present, the reactionary meanwhile seeks to destroy the present so that he may rebuild the future in the shadow of an imagined past.

Between the two, it is the conservative who is worshipful of the past for its complexity, while the reactionary is an iconoclast, an unbeliever in the in-betweenness of the past. For the conservative, the past is source of replenishment and meaning while for the reactionary, it is he who infuses the past with meaning. Methodologically and temperamentally, the conservative has an archivist's attitude and is armed with nothing but a set of heuristics about what works to sustain the present while the reactionary (like the Leftist revolutionary) works out of a model he imagines inviolable.

Desire to feel free

Meanwhile, the enemy of the reactionary mind is an alchemical brew served up in the name of progress " liberal politics, theologies of social emancipation, technocrats, trade agreements, multiculturalism. Why exactly these arouse anger and response is complicated, if not obscure. One answer that the writer Pankaj Mishra offers in his sweeping and provocative new book ( Age of Anger ) is that the collective rage we see world over is, in parts, a reaction against the architecture of Anglo-American modernity imposed by elites in a fit of unthinking mimicry. This has in turn created half-formed mentalities. Individuals who are neither conservative and grounded in tradition, nor prepared to live a life of "agitation, change, and danger" that modernity imposes. Lacking the tools that traditional societies offer its children, men in this half-modern world adopt identities as a way to be. Men put on masks " masks originally designed by foreigners for their own festivals " to render their lives with a vitality that contrasts with the insignificance of their lives swept up in vast, impersonal events. The result, over time, is the desire to tear that suffocating mask away: to feel free, even if momentarily.


http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-opinion/an-equal-and-opposite-reaction/article17450597.ece

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Such a sweet couple they make! 😳
TFS! :) 
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Wow this was a lovely read about two awesome people!!
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Awww...now i want a love button!! i love stories like this..and i also love how comfortable they are with each other!!