What makes a film Hit, Flop, Super Hit or Blockbuster?

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Box Office India: What makes a film Hit, Flop, Super Hit or Blockbuster?

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A lot of our readers wonder how a film that earns around Rs 60 crores, like an Action Jackson, is declared a FLOP' at the box office. On the other hand, a film like Hate Story 2 that earns just Rs 28 crores, is declared a HIT'.

So how exactly are verdicts like HIT, Flop, Average, Super Hit or Blockbuster given to films?

There are a lot of points to consider before giving a theatrical verdict to a film.

1. The person who creates / packages the film is the called the PRODUCER'. He / she may create the entire project like hiring the director, actors, script-writers, technicians etc.

Examples of leading producers: Rakesh Roshan (FilmKraft Productions), Karan Johar (Dharma Productions), Farhan Akhtar and Ritesh Sidhwani (Excel Entertainment), Sajid Nadiadwala (Nadiadwala Grandson Entertainment), Bhushan Kumar (T-Series) etc.

2. Once a film is ready for release, the producer may decide to sell the film to a Corporate house' or a Individual distributor'. For example, Sajid Nadiadwala sold Salman Khan's Kick' to UTV Motion Pictures; Excel Entertainment sold Don 2 to Reliance Entertainment'.  Producers always sell it at a price higher than the Cost of Production' (which is known in the trade as COP). This ensures that the creative producers are safe in terms of the business of the project. To give our readers another example, the COP of Jai Ho was very less, but the film was sold for a much higher price to Eros International', which was the reason why the film was a failure at the box office. That's the reason why we hear that the producers (in this case Sohail Khan) made his money, but the distributors (Eros) lost.

Examples of leading distributors

  • Yash Raj Films (Producers + Distributors)
  • Anil Thadani (AA films worldwide) - Movies distributed include Hate Story 2, Yaariyaan, Humpty Sharma ki Dulhania, Hasee toh Phasee, Dirty Picture, Ek Villain.
  • Eros Entertainment(Producers + Distributors) - Distributed films like Happy Ending, Jai Ho, Linga, Ram Leela, Tevar etc.
  • Reliance Entertainment (Producers + Distributors)   - Distributed Don2, Holiday, Singham, Bodyguard
  • Viacom18 (Producers + Distributors) - Distributed Mary Kom
  • Fox Star Studios (Producers + Distributors) - Distributed Bang Bang, My Name is Khan, Jolly LLB, City Lights

3. Once the distributor acquires the project at a premium, they might decide to sell different territories to sub-distributors. These sub-distributors then sell the film to theatre owners (exhibitors).

To understand the business of a film, we have to understand the cost involved at each step. Thus when we claim that a Tevar or Action Jackson have failed, even with reasonably good collections, the costs incurred at each step maybe higher.

Case Study of Arjun Kapoor's Tevar

  • Boney Kapoor (Producer) invests about Rs 30-35 crore into the film
  • He then finds a buyer (Eros International) who buys the theatrical distribution rights for Rs 48 Crore.
  • Eros International (Distributor) then invests around Rs 12 crore to market (promote) the film.
  • Total costs of Tevar = Rs 60 crore
  • Estimated total revenue from other sources like Music, Satellite rights and Overseas is Rs 18 crore approx.
  • Total cost to recover from theatrical business is Rs 42 crore (Revenue from other sources i.e Rs 18 cr deducted from total costs of Rs 60 cr)

Now, the most important point. If a Distributor has to recover Rs 42 crore from theatrical business, then the film has to collect atleast around Rs 80-85 crore. The reason is, a share from the total collections also goes to the exhibitor (theatre owner). If Tevar collects around 50 crore at the box office, Eros International would only get around 25 crore.

Breakdown of Tevar (all figures are approximates to make it simple for our readers to understand)

  • Money to recover = Rs 42 crore.
  • Expected total collections from theatrical business = Rs 50 crore
  • Distributors Share that Eros International would get (Total recovery) = Rs 25 crore
  • Total Loss = Rs 17 crore

Reason for failure is the high price paid for Tevar by Eros International. If Boney Kapoor had sold the film for a lower price or released the film himself, Tevar would have been a success at the box office even if it collected around Rs 50 - 55 crore.

Finally, based on the costs and various other factors, we then give our box office verdicts to films. Taking the case study of Tevar, here is how much it had to collect to get different verdicts.

  • For Tevar to be a All Time Blockbuster - Rs 175 crore or more.
  • Blockbuster - Rs 140 crore or more
  • Super Hit - Rs 110 crore or higher
  • Hit - Rs 90 crore or higher
  • Average - Rs 70 crore
  • Flop - Anything less than Rs 60 crore

Note: There is no fixed formula for verdicts. In today's times, trade analysts are a little more lenient when it comes to verdicts. With strict verdicts, Kick wouldn't be a Blockbuster' as some distributors lost money (due to high costs). Bang Bang wouldn't be a HIT and Happy New Year wouldn't be a Super Hit'.

Also, if a film does well in theatres, the distributor or producer may get a higher price through Satellite Rights, thus additional revenue is generated from other sources if it does well in theatres.

Every film that is released in theatres must be assessed this way to understand its business and final verdicts. 

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Posted: 9 years ago
"With strict verdicts, Kick wouldn't be a Blockbuster' as some distributors lost money (due to high costs). Bang Bang wouldn't be a HIT and Happy New Year wouldn't be a Super Hit'."
Another proof of double standards in the industry. Why the leniency toward big stars? smh. 

Tfs, Indicine is a very good site imho. they do their stuff quite professionally. 
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Posted: 9 years ago
Ask BOI... is its HR... its flop, If its ranbeer... its a hit. 
Simple. corruption. 
Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: AllBlacks1

Ask BOI... is its HR... its flop, If its ranbeer... its a hit. 

Simple. corruption. 

😆😆😆  Not much analysis required.
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Posted: 9 years ago
IMO, if distributors are making losses, one can never declare it as a hit/super hit. Semi-hit should be the term to define such movies.

Originally posted by: AllBlacks1

Ask BOI... is its HR... its flop, If its ranbeer... its a hit. 

Simple. corruption. 


The problem with BOI is that it does not follow any formula or method to declare a film as a hit or flop. 

It declares verdicts based on its own whims. So if it's a star/production house they like, they deliver favourable verdicts. If otherwise, they try to humiliate the star/prod house with their verdicts.
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Posted: 9 years ago
ROI chart will give an idea how much profit producers made from theatrical run.
 
As for verdicts, often with small budget films are judged solely based on their theatrical run. While big budget films like HNY get their verdict based on BO collection plus satellite, overseas rights etc. YRF bought it for 125 cr so they possibly wouldn't have made profit from domestic collection alone. So yeah, there's a certain bias towards big movies. 

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Posted: 9 years ago
sounds about right...film can actually become a hit or flop due to distributor's buying price...
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: OrganizedChaos

IMO, if distributors are making losses, one can never declare it as a hit/super hit. Semi-hit should be the term to define such movies.


The problem with BOI is that it does not follow any formula or method to declare a film as a hit or flop. 

It declares verdicts based on its own whims. So if it's a star/production house they like, they deliver favourable verdicts. If otherwise, they try to humiliate the star/prod house with their verdicts.


Thats not the real problem. The guy in USA eat Indian hot curry and have problems in loo.. he changes the verdicts of last 40 years old films for worse... if he had a good sex... he changes the films verdicts again for better. Its all abt his mood and we take him seriously here.

In the end, the followers of that guy is as much in coma as Asharam Bapu's bhakts.. 




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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: AllBlacks1


Thats not the real problem. The guy in USA eat Indian hot curry and have problems in loo.. he changes the verdicts of last 40 years old films for worse... if he had a good sex... he changes the films verdicts again for better. Its all abt his mood and we take him seriously here.

In the end, the followers of that guy is as much in coma as Asharam Bapu's bhakts..


He doesn't do it arbitrarily. There is a purpose behind that pattern. Certain people are hardly ever put in negative light by them. And certain people are targeted.

Anyway it's pointless. The industry does not acknowledge the site. They follow their own numbers.
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Posted: 9 years ago
It's impossible for every distributor to profit as some territories will incur losses.
That's why there are Universal Blockbusters - where everybody profits.

If we go by the same margin, D3 isn't an ATBB either because every distributor didn't get 300% on their ROI. But the collective ROI was 300%, hence, it's an ATBB.

There are few movies that have left everybody well and truly happy - Dabbang, 3I, Ghajini, etc from the modern era.

There's no way a movie could do what HAHK did in 1994, or Sholay in 1975, MEA in 1960, or a Kismet in 1943. Adjusted for inflation today, these movies might exceed 1000 crores - and the footfalls would be massive too.