Jalal's Step-Mothers

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hello JA-ians!
I'm curious to know about Jalal's step mothers. In one of the episodes we heard that Todarmal was entrusted with escorting Humayun's 3 queens to safety, Those Queens were - the Queen Mother or Jalal's mom, Chand Begum and a third - who was the third?

Today we learned that Maha Chuchak is also Jalal's step mother - who is she? As in when did Humayun marry her (more like how) and how did she get separated from the royal family and become so vicious?

Does anyone have any idea or answers to these questions?

Thanks guys!

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Posted: 11 years ago
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As per online articles (history) MC is wife of Humayan and mother of Mirza Hakim and mother-in-law of Abul Mali. I think Kabul was given to Hakim Mirza by Humayun and he appointed some care taker for Hakim Mirza as he was very young when Humayun died.
But MC was very hungry woman and with the help of Abul Mali she herself staretd ruling Kabul. Later Abul Mali was frustrated with her dominance and killed her and got the throne for himself.
MC gave lot of trouble to Akbar and killed Munim Khan's son who fought with MC on behalf of Akbar. She continously gathered support from Afghan and Ujbek rebels and fought against Akbar.
Akbar himself had to go for war to control MC and finally gave throne to Hakim Mirza.
Hakim Miirza was also against Jalal and waged many wars with Jalal. Jalal once for all decided to teach lesson to Hakim Mirza and in punjab war he defeated Mirza and warned him to go back to Kabul.
Hakim Mirza was not at all tolerant to othe religions (showing contrast in our JA and moreover Ekta added Sivani episode 😛) and hated Jalal for his liberal policies and wanted to establish conservative mughal rule.
This is what I read. 😊 but Ekta JA showing totally different story.😕
and also read that Bakshi Banu is daughter of Gauhar Begum (another wife of Humayun), not daughter of Hamida begum. I think in Ekta serial Maham killed Gauhar Begum (who was dasi but became begum as she got married to Humayun).
Edited by fish_shrimp - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skar1984

I'm curious to know about Jalal's step mothers. In one of the episodes we heard that Todarmal was entrusted with escorting Humayun's 3 queens to safety, Those Queens were - the Queen Mother or Jalal's mom, Chand Begum and a third - who was the third?


I just want to comment that Jalal and his mom Hamida Bano were nowhere in the picture when this incident happened. HB was not even married to Humayun then. This is why she and Jalal had no idea who Chand Begum was when the name came up.

As a blooper, Ruq seemed to know a lot about her. Or, given her character, she could also be just bluffing in order to show off in front of Jo.

Edited by AKT.JA - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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they showed that chand begam escaped in the show
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Posted: 11 years ago
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but in the show they are showing mirz hakim is positive charater
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Originally posted by: susantogiaa

but in the show they are showing mirz hakim is positive charater


So far. But this could change, and probably will if they want to stay faithful to known history.
Edited by AKT.JA - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Humayun had many wives
Bega Begum
Empress Mughal empire till Humayun death
Dowager Empress(Queen Mother) Mughal empire after his death
His first wife is his first cousin sister(like Ruqaiah was to Akbar) Bega Begum also known as Haji Begum. She was empress of mughal empire at age of 19 when Humayun became emperor at 22. She was his chief consort till his death. Humayun's first son Al-Aman was born in 1528 to her but died as a small infant. She was taken prisoner by Sher Shah Suri and returned back with honour to Humayun by a one Khwas Khan not Todarmal. During when she was captured along with other begums her daughter Aqiqah who was 8 years old in 1539(born 1530) was never returned. She is presumed to have been abused by sher shah suri forces and killed and her body never returned to her father. Humayun regretted all life for losing his daughter and searched her extensively but she was not found and he always regretted getting her to chausa, bengal. He told Hindal in grief its better i had killed her in my own hands than allow her to fall in enemy hands. Her death broke his will to fight as he loved her a lot. This incident took place on 26th June 1539. After this incident Bega Begum left worldly ways and spent her time in service of God.
Shaad Bibi
Sent back by Sher Shah Suri, no kids
Chand Bibi
7 months pregnant and presumed dead in attack by Chausa
Gunwar Bibi
Mother of Bakshi Bano
Najib al nissa Begum
Mother of Baqt al nissa who lived with Mirza Hakim and supported him and died in 1608
Machchuk Bibi
Mother of Mirza Hakim and son-in-law Abul Mali
Hamida Bano(19 years younger to Humayun)
Mother of Akbar
Humayun married more women later on too
Atagah Khan was in Kamran's army not Humayun and met him only after a few more years so no way he can know how chand begum looked or any other begum who died looked
Maham joined Humayun when in exile again she would never have met any chand begum, shaad begum
Todarmal also did not go to leave Bega and Shaad to Humayun, it was Khwas Khan who left them back with Humayun
Sher Shah Suri was a soldier in Babar's army raised to be commander under Humayun then turned independent ruler and attacked Humayun with cohort support from Humayun's step brothers
In real history neither chand begum came back nor any shenaz urf nigar existed nor mah chu chuk attacked akbar. It was mirza hakim who attacked punjab but was defeated. Abul Mali killed mah chu chuk when Hakim was a 10 year old boy and wanted to kill him. Then
Mirza Sulaiman(bakshi bano husband) and his father attacked abul mali forces captured and hanged him and released mirza hakim. Hakim and Akbar had intense sibling rivalry and not good goody brothers like shown in serial. Humayun had made Mirza hakim incharge of Kabul as a kid only. Akbar was 11 years elder to hakim. So as per history now Akbar is 21 years and Mirza should be 10 year old boy and Mah chu chuk and Abul Mali alreaddy dead.
Like Shahbaz Khan (who plays Bairam Khan) in MP serial said these serials are 80% fiction 20% history. So please read history books to know real history not serials
Edited by myviewprem - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: skar1984

Hello JA-ians!

I'm curious to know about Jalal's step mothers. In one of the episodes we heard that Todarmal was entrusted with escorting Humayun's 3 queens to safety, Those Queens were - the Queen Mother or Jalal's mom, Chand Begum and a third - who was the third?

Today we learned that Maha Chuchak is also Jalal's step mother - who is she? As in when did Humayun marry her (more like how) and how did she get separated from the royal family and become so vicious?

Does anyone have any idea or answers to these questions?

Thanks guys!



the three begum of Humayun whom Todarmar escorted to Agra were : Bega Begum (very first wife of Humayun), she was later called as Haji Begum and Akbar was very fond of her... second was Chand Begum... and third was Miwah Jaan Begum... (don't know much abt them)


then there were few more begums of Humayun... one was Bakshi Bano's mother and one Hamida Bano
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Posted: 11 years ago
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myviewprem is right. based on what I read. only thing is Mahachuchak waged few wars and she was against Jalal. Jalal had lot of troubles because of her until she was killed by his own son-in-law Abul MaII.
Few NRs are ok. but JA is total distort from History. how can one do so many distortions to the facts whcih happned few hundred years back...
Mirza Hakim was very young, when Mahachuchak was killed by AbulMali. Later Abul Mali was also killed by some loyals of Humayun. Finally Hakim Mairza (as wished by Humayun) was given Kabul throne and Jalal was looking over Kabul until Mirza grew up teen.
Mirza never accepted Jalal as his big brothe and attacked many times and failed. One last time he attacked Jalal at Punjab, again Jalal won the battle.
Chand Begum and her daughter were history by the time Jalal was born, they were lost after Chausa battle. Same with Shad begum.
No idea why are they showing SN and Chand begum nonsence. Atgag, Todarmal, MA does not even know chnd begum.
Another thing is after Jodha's marriage, within few months AK was killed by Jalal and immediately after 45 days MA also died in grief.
This JA is total crap EK is showing... they have toa dd nice romantic scenes and some easily acceptable NR for real history. not changing the history totally.😡

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