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Posted: 11 years ago
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I think the makers got confused-between a STRONG woman and an ARROGANT one

They must have thought Amba burning a crop like that must have like strenght on her part

But it actually looked bad,specially considering that Vishtravirya was being punished for the same crime a while back...

Atleast Satyavati showing her like that was ok
But Amba it made no sense!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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agree wid u... even the Bg music of amba was all vampish types...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I agree w/ you - the portrayal of both Satyavati & Amba bothers me

Satyavati, contrary to what is thought, had no rights & no say in any of this. Yeah, women were strong, but in that society, their parents got to choose who they'd marry. In this case, even had Satyavati been willing to marry Shantanu independently - something unthinkable then, contrary to the portrayal of Satyavati as Shantanu's girlfriend - her father could easily have vetoed that. Only thing - Shantanu, as a king, could have forced her father to give her in marriage, or seized her by royal fiat.

Amba was a perfectly innocent princess, and had a love affair w/ King Shalva, who she was already planning to choose in her swayamvar. Once Bheeshma captured her, she asserted her right to choose Shalva, but once Shalva pointed out that he couldn't accept her, Amba asked Bheeshma to finish what he had started and marry her. Amba just had one wish that every woman of that age had - to get married, and her ire at Bheeshma was solely b'cos he prevented that from happening. I've never understood why the Mahabharata seems to absolve Bheeshma of any wrongdoing - he was another Ravan, except that he abducted someone yet to be married. Given that when Krishna killed Sishupala, he pointed out the Sishupala had seized a princess betrothed to a different king, I wonder why Bheeshma got a pass on this? Probably an illustration of might being right.

Anyway, back to the portrayal - we know that they are gonna portray Draupadi as being haughty, which is true to script, so it seems like they want to portray this, and portray every other woman as being worse. That's my theory about why they're depicting Amba & Satyavati this ruthlessly.

This portrayal is making this show another KHMK

Originally posted by: .Rinnie.

I know I know... its just the beginning, give it time n all that. Though I loved the old Mahabharat of BR Chopra's, I haven't once compared it to this and have watched this new MB with an open mind.

However one thing that really strikes me is the portrayal of certain characters like Satyavati and now, Amba. According to the original stories of MB, Satyavati wasn't as selfish or ambitious as she is protrayed to be here.
She seems like one of those wicked step mothers outta of a tv serial. Though she may have been selfish n ambitious but she did have respect and was grateful to beeshma for what he scarificed for her. However,here, Satyavati seems least bothered about anything other than her own ambitions and her son.

And here comes, Amba who is shown burning crop fields 😕
I dont remember her being arrogant enough to do such things.

Im all for women being independent, strong minded and so on but I felt by the way they are potraying these female characters, it is heading more toward vampish than woman power.

I dunno... maybe I might be judging too soon however this makes me worried how they will handle the further story with other important female characters. Because MB is filled with so many grey shaded characters who can neither be portrayed as fully black nor as fully white with expection of shakuni and so on.

Other than Im happy with this new MB. 😊
I just hope they dont change too much of the original story.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Firstly-Satyavati being so assertive is nowhere seen, in the actual Mahabharat its her father who asks Shantanu to announce that his daughter's heirs only would inherit the throne-nowehre satyavati comes here-Also im not sure why her transformation from MAtsyagandha to Styavati is not shown!!!
And also amba is not so violent-Yes she becomes revnegful,but this is tooo much-Dunno Draupadi to phir Nuclear bombs aur submarines ke sath hi chalegi!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: nobodyatnotime



I agree. They are equating strong women to vamps. I mean, you can rationalize Satyavati's fears before marriage- I mean look at histories of royal successions everywhere, of course a woman could be afraid for her sons when the prince was someone as powerful and strong as Devrath, but afterwards they shared a cordial relationship of mutual respect, and Satyavati as rajmata cared for Hastinapur too. Here they are showing her as some typical evil stepmother whose stepson is dying for her love and one day she is going to realize her mistakes and say something along the lines of "Humne hamesha aapko galat samjha blah blah blah" Fabulous acting by Sayantani though.
2ndly, as far as I know kidnapping the Kashi princesseswas Bhishma's ideas, not Satyavati's.
3rdly, I don't see why Amba had to burn the crops. That was completely unnecessary. Her later vendetta against Bhisma is right on her side if you see her side of the story, and just because she is reborn to kill him does not mean she has to be shown as an evil witch who burns crops and stuff.
4thly, I dion't know Panchal had a problem with Bhishma. Drupad had a problem with Dronacharya, this I knew.

Proper studying of the texts must have been doen-instead there are distortions everywhere-they cannot change the story as they want-its not ekta serial-bahu dies-reborn as beta etc...Half baked serial!!!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Yeah I second you on that!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: JanakiRaghunath

I kind of agree. So far, the show has been pretty good but the major downside is the portrayal of the women. So far, both Satyavati and Amba have been shown as vampish and arrogant. If they're showing "mellow" characters in this way, It kind of makes me scared of how they'll show Draupadi later on. 😕


I did not find them vampish in anyway, they seem to be women driven by ambition..

I think the major problem is that we are used to watching whimpering women in daily soaps... who are nothing but a paragon of virtues.. who suffer in silence.. how unrealistic. I bet women in the past were at par with men.. and nothing like they are portrayed in daily soaps..😡


As for Amba.. many don't like the way she burnt down the crops.. But I thought it was symbolic.. in a way.. it showed her determination to get what she wants.. she will stop at nothing.. especially when it came to the one she loved.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -ShrNi-

I think the makers got confused-between a STRONG woman and an ARROGANT one

They must have thought Amba burning a crop like that must have like strenght on her part

But it actually looked bad,specially considering that Vishtravirya was being punished for the same crime a while back...

Atleast Satyavati showing her like that was ok
But Amba it made no sense!



I agree

Their is a difference between arrogance and strength


What they showed Amba as was downright mean and wicked
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: .Rinnie.

I know I know... its just the beginning, give it time n all that. Though I loved the old Mahabharat of BR Chopra's, I haven't once compared it to this and have watched this new MB with an open mind.

However one thing that really strikes me is the portrayal of certain characters like Satyavati and now, Amba. According to the original stories of MB, Satyavati wasn't as selfish or ambitious as she is protrayed to be here.
She seems like one of those wicked step mothers outta of a tv serial. Though she may have been selfish n ambitious but she did have respect and was grateful to beeshma for what he scarificed for her. However,here, Satyavati seems least bothered about anything other than her own ambitions and her son.

And here comes, Amba who is shown burning crop fields 😕
I dont remember her being arrogant enough to do such things.

Im all for women being independent, strong minded and so on but I felt by the way they are potraying these female characters, it is heading more toward vampish than woman power.

I dunno... maybe I might be judging too soon however this makes me worried how they will handle the further story with other important female characters. Because MB is filled with so many grey shaded characters who can neither be portrayed as fully black nor as fully white with expection of shakuni and so on.

Other than Im happy with this new MB. 😊
I just hope they dont change too much of the original story.


U have written what I was been thinking...As per the story..Satyavati never asks for her rightful place but instead, it is Satyavati's dad who asks for his daughter's rightful place..and Satyavati is not vampish but, makes Bheeshma as the guardian of her sons..Neither is Amba haughty...

Why portray characters in a way which is not what is mentioned in the epic??
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: -ShrNi-

I think the makers got confused-between a STRONG woman and an ARROGANT one

They must have thought Amba burning a crop like that must have like strenght on her part

But it actually looked bad,specially considering that Vishtravirya was being punished for the same crime a while back...

Atleast Satyavati showing her like that was ok
But Amba it made no sense!


The thing that I find more annoying is that the CVs seem to be trying to erode the sympathy Amba normally gets from anybody reading the story from an unbiased perspective. If the names Bheeshma, Amba, Shalva, Vichitravirya et al were removed and the story were to be re-written, people would be pretty sympathetic towards the Amba character and hostile to Bheeshma. But somehow, b'cos Bheeshma is such a lionized character who was highly regarded by both Kauravas & Pandavas, various authors and CVs have given him a pass on his behavior - something I find just outrageous.

And now, you have Amba being portrayed as a vamp, who for the sake of her pure carnal desires, will burn a field of crops to demonstrate that nothing comes b/w her & her love. In fact, shouldn't Shalva have been the one to burn the crops?

So tonight, when Amba was abducted along w/ her sisters, people who'd have gone by just this serial would just not be sympathetic towards her, which they otherwise would be either for any other character, or for Amba herself if correctly portrayed.

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