Jogi the root cause....

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Posted: 13 years ago
 Freud said that 'woman look for their Father's in their Husbands.'

While watching today's episode and seeing the love between Jogi and Iccha a couple thoughts came to mind:

  1. Jogi has never been that loving/tender with Tap
  2. And that Iccha's love for Veer is partly due to the fact he is very much like Jogi
  3. Taps love for Veer is partly due because he is like her Father and the love she felt she didn't get then she looked for in Veer.
  4. Jogi is in fact the root cause of the Taps enmity to Iccha.
Jogi has always felt guilty towards Iccha for what he had deprived her off and overcompensated with his love on her, helped that Iccha was a lovely sweet nice natured child.
At the same time I think he side lined Taps not because he didn't love her because he felt that she had everything; Mother, Nani, FATHER, wealth and so would lack for nothing. He just didn't see that Taps IS his daughter and as such needed him to be HER FATHER.

This began Taps hatred and Iccha could not see this because she got Jogi love as a Father and couldn't see that Jogi wasn't the same with Taps.

And as for Veer I would say that both Taps and Iccha, whether conscientiously or subconscientiously see Jogi in him and are fighting the same battle as their childhood one.

This in no way excuses what Taps has done (and I'm a Veercha fan) but I do think it does explain some of Taps emotional hatred of iccha.

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Posted: 13 years ago
the root cause is Tapu's jealousy nature. Jogi never ignored Tapu, he just equally love Ichha, which Tapu's jealousy nature cd not able to tolerate. as she always use to say mere papa sirf mere hain and i m the only daughter of him. which show tht her problem was not tht she was not getting her father love but why Ichha is getting same.
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Posted: 13 years ago
If you saw the episodes right after the leap, Jogi was very loving towards Taps, he would stay up late at night worrying if she didn't come home on time, ask her to go on morning walks with him, was proud of her work as a model, wanted her to work with him, etc. He also loved Ichcha, but at that time everyone in the house treated Taps like a queen. Her jealousy of Ichcha blinded her to the truth.

Also Taps love for Veer is also centered around Ichcha, she didn't give two hoots when he was marrying Kinjal, only when he ran off after Ichcha she started talking about saving her marriage.

Taps main problem is her insane jealousy of Ichcha. Partly she was fanned on by Nani, but she is big enough now to take the blame for herself. She is the one to blame for everything, not Ichcha, not Jogi, and not even Nani.
Edited by atria - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
BTW I agree that sometimes 'women look for their fathers in their husbands'. I always felt that Taps and Ichcha looked for different qualities in Veer. Ichcha saw the same sympathetic nature that Jogi had, whereas Taps saw the shaano-shaukat of being a Thakur bahu after being a Thakur daughter. She has always been materialistic and selfish, blaming Jogi for her nature is like blaming Indian governments two child policy for infanticide.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: atria

If you saw the episodes right after the leap, Jogi was very loving towards Taps, he would stay up late at night worrying if she didn't come home on time, ask her to go on morning walks with him, was proud of her work as a model, wanted her to work with him, etc. He also loved Ichcha, but at that time everyone in the house treated Taps like a queen. Her jealousy of Ichcha blinded her to the truth.


Also Taps love for Veer is also centered around Ichcha, she didn't give two hoots when he was marrying Kinjal, only when he ran off after Ichcha she started talking about saving her marriage.

Taps main problem is her insane jealousy of Ichcha. Partly she was fanned on by Nani, but she is big enough now to take the blame for herself. She is the one to blame for everything, not Ichcha, not Jogi, and not even Nani.


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Posted: 13 years ago
gud post.............. a mature explation 4 taps deeds.......... nice one
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Posted: 13 years ago
I agree with the Topic starter and seriously...I cant understand anyone else. Jogi is definitely the root cause also for not removing nani when he knew nani was spoiling her.

Ab bass! Bohot naainsaafi hui hai meri Tapu ke saath par ab nahin😑 AB NAHIN!😑😑😑
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: atria

If you saw the episodes right after the leap, Jogi was very loving towards Taps, he would stay up late at night worrying if she didn't come home on time, ask her to go on morning walks with him, was proud of her work as a model, wanted her to work with him, etc. He also loved Ichcha, but at that time everyone in the house treated Taps like a queen. Her jealousy of Ichcha blinded her to the truth.


Also Taps love for Veer is also centered around Ichcha, she didn't give two hoots when he was marrying Kinjal, only when he ran off after Ichcha she started talking about saving her marriage.

Taps main problem is her insane jealousy of Ichcha. Partly she was fanned on by Nani, but she is big enough now to take the blame for herself. She is the one to blame for everything, not Ichcha, not Jogi, and not even Nani.

 
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Its high time tapasya takes the blame for her behaviour... only she is responsible for all the crimes she has committed...n she has not been punished for them yet...
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Posted: 13 years ago
OMG i dont think tappu ever loved Veer she jus wanted to have him...when ichcha blamed veer for vansh's killing which was made to look like that..n veer was jailed tapasya never told the truth tht she was behind it..now all the time she talked about saving veer but she was more bothered about herself if u love someone so much how can u let that person suffer knowing your the reason behind it..all she wanted was ichcha hates veer so that she can have him...this isn't love
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Posted: 13 years ago
Some points to share:
 
- Tappu and Ichcha ... both are daughters of the family !!!!! But it's always Ichcha who worked for Tappu as 'naukrani' by cutting her fruits, preparing salads, ironing clothes etc etc .... and Ichcha never sat with the family to eat
- Tappu was queen .... she travelled in car and bought all the expensive stuff, but Ichcha was never given those luxury ... She used to have dal and chawal made by Ammo and not all the good foods (just stayed in a better room of Haveli .. and that's it) .. travelled in bus and auto .. no car for her .. Either cheaper cotton dress or Tappu's uttaran ... If she was really treated as a daughter equivalent to Tappu in the house by Jogi and Divvya, then why this discrimination ????? Remember the movie of Rani and preity, same case, but there both used to get similar stuff (including mobile .... )
- Here Ichcha was just given a room in Haveli and school/ college fees ... She and her Ammo was always treated like servants only ... not like family member ... Damini was sort of head cook/ caretaker and Ichcha personal assistant of Tappu .... that was ichcha's treatment by Jogi and family
 
Those two Ichcha and Damini dono why always kept themselved dawaowed in Ehesan .... infact Damini did Ehesan .. if she would have gone to police and put Jogi in jail for killing and then running away her husband, then Jogi would have been chakki pissing and tappu in basti from childhood ... and Thakur pariwar to then Ram hi rakhe ...
 
But ihape to sab ulta chalte hein .... After 2 murder Jogi is now proud of Tappu as she crossed him .. Jogi = 1 murder and Tappu = 2 murder (one successfull and another attempt) and so Jogi say "mujhe aap-ke naaz hein" after all Tappu drama ... still they blindly believe whatever Tappu say (earlier also they did believed whatever Tappu said ....)
 
Net net my feeling .. Jogi and co. only does nautanki with Ichcha and Damini and makes them fool and actually cheenawos everything from them to fuel their tappu's evilness more and more ... Jogi is a bigger actor than Tappu ... exploits Damini and co. to get saved from chakki pissing ... but actually gave nothing to Ichcha apart from a room to stay in Haveli and some school/ college fees ... Ulta he harpaoed 6lacs of Damini's insurance money ....
 
Now high time ... Ichaha should realize this ....