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Posted: 16 years ago
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RTH I enjoyed reading your post very much. I think it sums the movie up really well-British film with an Indian heart.
And who would know this more than a Mumbaikar :)
I gotta disagree on some points people have made though. The way the world is moving right now, people DO believe what they see in the media, people DO believe movies that look real to life and generalise and in this modern day and time I can't help but say it is normal! I'm not saying we look at one person and generalise but when in the West for example we see movies that one after another continue to portray a certain place or even person in a certain way, because we see it so many times, we begin to believe it too no matter how many sides there are to a story. I can't and will not ever deny the existence of slums in India, its just it made me wonder while having a discussion about SDM when people said (not in a mallicious way) that "they think they saw the reality and how things really are". Slums exist and it is part Bharat's reality, but those people are also part of our reality who don't live on streets and actually have a roof over their head whom believe it or not aren't millionaires but an average middle class Indian. Its a shame some of these comments came from some Bangladeshis whom out of all people i thought would know better, clearly not.
Just wanna conclude with a thought of a friend of mine in one of our old religious education classes when we were talking about poverty. A classmate of african origin said that she feels so shocked when the whole world views Africa as such a poor continent and although she doesn't deny the frequent dying due to poverty..starvation etc, she also said that only she knows that when she goes back to Africa, her whole country isn't like that at all -like full of poor people at all but just over-exaggerated due to the influence of the media etc.
This is exactly how I feel about India.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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All said and done.
i will just conclude that SDM may be good movie stilll not released here. i dont have anything against the movie if it is entertaining it will do well if not then it wont.
I will take back all my words if i am given one example where an indian movie or based on india is awarded in which the darker side if india is not the base of that movie or theme or highlighted or not even shown.
Less than one percent of more than one billion poppulation is a huge no. BTW , which shows how many rich people are there in india.
RTH i have lived in mumbai, i have seen dharavi and i do not shove away the fact that there are slums in india and people do live below poverty line.
The only thing which hurts is selling indian poverty.
And gauri how can u assume i belong to middle class? may be i own a BMW?
And yes it is NOT and indian movie.
Edited by sandya_rao7 - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: hindu4lyf

RTH I enjoyed reading your post very much. I think it sums the movie up really well-British film with an Indian heart.

And who would know this more than a Mumbaikar :)
I gotta disagree on some points people have made though. The way the world is moving right now, people DO believe what they see in the media, people DO believe movies that look real to life and generalise and in this modern day and time I can't help but say it is normal! I'm not saying we look at one person and generalise but when in the West for example we see movies that one after another continue to portray a certain place or even person in a certain way, because we see it so many times, we begin to believe it too no matter how many sides there are to a story. I can't and will not ever deny the existence of slums in India, its just it made me wonder while having a discussion about SDM when people said (not in a mallicious way) that "they think they saw the reality and how things really are". Slums exist and it is part Bharat's reality, but those people are also part of our reality who don't live on streets and actually have a roof over their head whom believe it or not aren't millionaires but an average middle class Indian. Its a shame some of these comments came from some Bangladeshis whom out of all people i thought would know better, clearly not.
Just wanna conclude with a thought of a friend of mine in one of our old religious education classes when we were talking about poverty. A classmate of african origin said that she feels so shocked when the whole world views Africa as such a poor continent and although she doesn't deny the frequent dying due to poverty..starvation etc, she also said that only she knows that when she goes back to Africa, her whole country isn't like that at all -like full of poor people at all but just over-exaggerated due to the influence of the media etc.
This is exactly how I feel about India.



I won't deny that many people assume the media portrayal to be the truth. There is a good share of Americans here who think India is a country of snake charmers who rely on elephants as a primary source of transportation. They ask dumb questions about India to which I answer with scathing sarcasm.

On the whole with the technology era, where the world is more connected people are becoming more aware. Movies and news is not the only source. People have the opportunity to access foreign media online, through discussion forums they connect to people across the world and get a taste of what local culture really is like.

When it comes to countries like India, China and the likes; I feel most of the west is in a confused state due to the high contrast in our history, culture etc. They constantly hear about India and China becoming the next superpower. Economic reports show the economy growing.(media) They lose their jobs to us and feel that it is taking from their mouth and giving us a big deal (their silly assumption). Then Indians and mostly all Asians who live abroad push academic, economic and work success. They portray their countries as ones with rich history and culture, lots of wealth, upper middle class lifestyle so a 'new age' image of these countries is impressed. (our fault). Then they see a movie like Slumdog and since many have never been to India are confused on what to draw as a 'Real Picture'. I feel it is ultimately up to all Indians to portray our country in a realistic manner. Our government, our people, everyone who represents us on the global scale even in the littlest scale should not - take pride in our country's greatness, but do acknowledge the harsh realities too.

Funny you mention Africa. I was talking to my sister about this thread and she was talking about how it must hurt Africans to see their portrayed. If Indians are sensitive about Slumdog, Africans must be depressed and devastated. People view Africa as such a poverty and Aids stricken country. It is true, but there is a rustic beauty to Africa. People think I am joking when I say the most breathaking parts of the Nile are in Uganda & Sudan. Eastern Europe has the same issue. People just view the region as home of prostitutes and brides for sale.

I might be being idealistic when I say people do not believe in the media. Most rational people ought to rise above the media and use the information we have at our fingertips. But then common sense is not that common really.
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: sandya_rao7

All said and done.

.......And gauri how can u assume i belong to middle class? may be i own a BMW?

Not even remotely guilty as charged by you here. This is what I wrote:
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Rest is somewhere in the low to upper middle class spectrum that, like you and me, loves to watch the larger than life escapist cinema.....
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If you pay attention, I refrained from divulging which class I belong to leave alone assuming you are middle class. All I said that middle class people like watching escapist cinema just like you and I like it. Never said ALL people who like escapist cinema are middle class or poor people. Similarity was drawn between the liking/movie preference - not the class.
Rest of your post has been addressed by RTH. No point in repeating the same stuff again.
Edited by Gauri_3 - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Just read it in IF.....
Thumbnail for version as of 20:06, 25 August 2007Shekhar Kapur: I think Danny Boyle is a good choice. I consider 'Slumdog Millionaire' India's most successful film. For me, 'Slumdog Millionaire' is an Indian film. It will get the Oscars and do a business of $200 million.
Edited by Pradarshak - 16 years ago
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Posted: 16 years ago
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First of all less than one billion was for gauri's comment who said less than on percent are rich in india.
as per your comment academy is all about art and no commercial value. so what u mean to say is not one movie since these many year was not creative enough well ofcourse apart from satyajit ray movies? and after that SDM was the only movie in which they thought there is cretivity?
Y is it creativity is only seen in dharavi which is what percentage of mumbai? and what percentage of mumbai's population is dharavi? how many scenes are there in SDM which showed the better parts of mumbai?
and is if u are appreciating the movie u r doing thunders for poverty and my not liking the movie shows i and trying to shove slums as non- existant?
y is it that only dharavi has fascinated west to make movies and not any other part of india till now?
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Posted: 16 years ago
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it's not otherwise it wouldn't attain so many golden globe awards

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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: rongna

it's not otherwise it wouldn't attain so many golden globe awards

The Writer/Music Director/Location/Artist/ Story about india..Even one song also in hindi(and 2much hindi/urdu bad words 😕you can learn😉😆 )..........😳85% of people worked behind the films are indians!!
I think we can say..its an Indian film from Hollywood........😉
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Posted: 16 years ago
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Originally posted by: Believe

The Writer/Music Director/Location/Artist/ Story about india..Even one song also in hindi(and 2much hindi/urdu bad words 😕you can learn😉😆 )..........😳85% of people worked behind the films are indians!!
I think we can say..its an Indian film from Hollywood........😉

ok i think it's fair to say that it's indian but not bollywood movie
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Posted: 16 years ago
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we should debate on what is an "indian movie "

Then we'll get the answer to ->
"Is Slumdog a Indian Film?"

on second thoughts, people are somewhat ,debating on "what is an indian movie" only😆

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