Episode 232 Discussion: 29th March 2013 - Page 6

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Posted: 12 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: armummy



Vd is in the country since Tuesday , ph is not using him deliberately otherwise we should had at least one scene him by today. That is the reason I am more worried , where this track is headed

wasnt he supposed 2 start shooting from tuesday?? dis is wat i heard!😕 he was back by dis Monday as Bittuji had tweeted!!
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Posted: 12 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0

>>>>>Nothing of that sort happened. Instead CVs are forcing imagery of Sulbala to erode Rishbala from viewers minds. Madhu and Sultan still are indifferent to each other.

>>>>>I sincerely wish the CVs become reasonable have Rishabh Kundra completely break himself off even emotionally with Madhu. He can keep memories of her until the time they were together. Beyond that he should let her go...his hinging onto her...will futher taint her. Wish the poster was not behind Sulbala in the night to make us feel this way.

It was really an ugly feeling. I told you they were forcefully reminding us and Madhu that person still exists.

>>>>>>>I mean to create Sulbala, they need not recycle Rishbala scenes even if its clunk device for Madhu to know her feelings for Sultan or RK. Effectively they have tainted Madhu's character through super-imposition of comparisons and contrasts...why do they have to compare Sultan to RK and RK to Sultan when Madhu does not even get one hint of comparison and contrast. So if Madhu does not see any similarity between the two...why the sound mixing and screenplay uses similar scenes ? What's going on ?


I needed to put my thoughts together on the episode today.

I chanced upon Syl's post "The Sandwich" today in Main Forum. And the tainted feeling that I expressed above actually stems from the two thoughts clubbed together ...One expressed by Syl and other expressed by me.

by Syl

Hero's past and present sandwich her...a past that is ever present and a present that would like nothing more than just to pass...Her present carries a past too heavy himself and yet his past is his present lullaby and light...From Hero's past there are silent pictures that progress to talkies that make her part of each scene...Hero does not call for action or cut orpack up in order to leave her past and go...Yet her present she waters and intends to help grow...

(I thought of a sandwich during the scene where RK's poster is in the background while Madhu is facing Sultan holding his knife and lighter)

Responded by me


Syl, The smile is for how you put that situation. I understood the same situation and was unhappy.

I would have appreciated if Madhu instead of shedding tears and trying to scamper off after seeing the RK poster, would have stood her ground and gave him a defiant look at him.

Then Madhu listens to the lighter sound and comes to Sultan.

Clearly she has not moved on. She is just sandwiched and the bathos is that it does not even come across as pathos to me about how she is weaving the web of life around her.

And she is obsessed with Aryan and that's coming across to me as "Custody Battle of Aryan" between Madhu and Sultan.

The way I see Madhu's want of Aryan's presence in her life, is like Regina in Once Upon a time, wants kids in her life as she cannot have her love "Daniel" ever in life. And what does she do, she tries so hard to please the two kids on whom she set her heart on. Now her whole life revolves around convincing that she can be good mother...but thing is facts don't change...she is not their mother, so she cannot possess them.

Anyways Madhu is not Regina, so what is it I am talking here. Sorry, if it has been unpleasant read. That is why I just kept quiet with a smile. 😊 😆
Edited by 0-SD-0 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: Angeena


@1
Madhu is the lead in the show, doesn't matter if she was the hairdresser or a sweeper this is how things will happen. Or maybe they are afraid of RK..

@2
Has Madhu stopped Bittooji from calling her Bhabhiji? She just told him off once and after that she ignores it .. Until she tells him off again, he won't stop. Maybe he thinks that by calling her Bhabhiji he will make her Bhabhiji again, or maybe it reminds him of his mission to unite RK and Madhu. Or maybe it is to make sure that Madhu keeps thinking of herself as his Bhabhi, meaning indirectly, RK's wife.




Even RK didn't ask Bittuji to stop calling her bhabiji, except for once. He seems to be totally cool with it. But when talking to his mom he always mentions as 'your ex-bahu'. If only they could clear this current or ex status of their relationship to us. I am really curious to know whether they are divorced or just estranged.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: cardio21


Even RK didn't ask Bittuji to stop calling her bhabiji, except for once. He seems to be totally cool with it. But when talking to his mom he always mentions as 'your ex-bahu'. If only they could clear this current or ex status of their relationship to us. I am really curious to know whether they are divorced or just estranged.


ESTRANGED

That is how his revenge works best. He just wants the love to be away from her life with him still hinged onto her.

If Madhu was sensible and not crazy (like obsessively trying to be a mother of Aryan), she would have taken care of mess in her life. She would have approached courts, asked for

  1. Restitution of Conjugal rights (as they still are married)
  2. Or Annulment of Marriage (non-consummation being the reason)
None of the two things will hurt her self-respect.

And here is where RK is going crazy like me. He thought she is crazy and loved him enough not to initiate those actions in rational sense to counter him...but now looks enigmatic to have moved on without completely breaking up with him.

😆 😆 😆

And if you read my post above yours, you will see why I feel the taint...like RK feels with Madhu's actions. Even if you are not clear and do not want clarity in life, still that craziness or anger should be there towards the man who destroyed you. So where is the defiant look at the poster of RK in today's episode. She has tears in her eyes and tries to scamper of. Why tears when you don't want to officially break away from him.

In comparison to Madhu, what was Sultan doing ? His wife left him and his son...and yet he remembers her through the musical lighter's musical tune. Sultan is more balanced than Madhu, who is scared of RK, wants to avoid him, not remember him and yet wants to douse herself into taking care of a kid, whose father asked her not to come close.

Edited by 0-SD-0 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#55
So just like when Madhu asks RK in her drunken state, ki what does he want from her, similarly we need to ask her what do you want from yourself. And the answer is she does not know yet.

How can she remain in that status quo position (neither married nor divorced) and hope to move on? How long can she hope to hold on to Aryan? She is neither his nanny nor his (step)mother nor Sultan's friend. She will need to find something else to distract her, isn't it?

I don't want to comment on Sultan or his musical lighter because we don't know his wife's side of story and all we have is just his word. So any conclusions will be just one sided and biased.

By the way @Syl's comment went kind of bouncer for me. What is she trying to say about past and present? Sorry I read it twice but I am not sure I got the gist of it. 😳
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Posted: 12 years ago
#56
Agree MM.

Now what Syl is saying is this... my explanation in red with starting as SD-
Hope it helps.


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Hero's past and present sandwich her(SD-I will ignore the start of the sentence except sandwich part)...a past (SD -RK)that is ever present and a present (SD -Sultan-Aryan) that would like nothing more than just to pass...Her present (SD-Sultan) carries a past too heavy himself and yet his past is his present lullaby and light(SD-Sultan remembers his wife and through whom he has Aryan, his life)...From Hero's (SD -RK's) past there are silent pictures(SD -of their memories together) that progress to talkies that make her part of each scene...Hero does not call for action or cut or pack up in order to leave her past and go(SD -see this is where they are still hinged emotionally and legally)...Yet her present she waters and intends to help grow...(SD -Madhu and Sultan-Aryan equation)

(I thought of a sandwich during the scene where RK's poster is in the background while Madhu is facing Sultan holding his knife and lighter)

Edited by 0-SD-0 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: 0-SD-0


ESTRANGED

That is how his revenge works best. He just wants the love to be away from her life with him still hinged onto her.

If Madhu was sensible and not crazy (like obsessively trying to be a mother of Aryan), she would have taken care of mess in her life. She would have approached courts, asked for

  1. Restitution of Conjugal rights (as they still are married)
  2. Or Annulment of Marriage (non-consummation being the reason)
None of the two things will hurt her self-respect.

And here is where RK is going crazy like me. He thought she is crazy and loved him enough not to initiate those actions in rational sense to counter him...but now looks enigmatic to have moved on without completely breaking up with him.

😆 😆 😆

And if you read my post above yours, you will see why I feel the taint...like RK feels with Madhu's actions. Even if you are not clear and do not want clarity in life, still that craziness or anger should be there towards the man who destroyed you. So where is the defiant look at the poster of RK in today's episode. She has tears in her eyes and tries to scamper of. Why tears when you don't want to officially break away from him.

In comparison to Madhu, what was Sultan doing ? His wife left him and his son...and yet he remembers her through the musical lighter's musical tune. Sultan is more balanced than Madhu, who is scared of RK, wants to avoid him, not remember him and yet wants to douse herself into taking care of a kid, whose father asked her not to come close.



Thanks for the clarification!! This is a TV soap!! They won't go the logical way because they want drama!! Both RK n Madhu have been acting weird! Rk more like a brute!! In some scenes, he came across as a jealous psycho lover!! It's high time he thinks like a sane man and gets his act together!! Even for Madhu, she needs to get the facts straight.. And stop creating problems for her family n herself.

I know Madhu will never fall for sultan, but I am hating the scenes between Sultan n madhu. Even though for them there is no intimacy or awkwardness, these scenes seem to be forcefully conveying their closeness to the audience.

May be the CVs wanted to start a jealousy track. But it can just be shown as RKs perception. They don't have to show us anything between the two when RK is not there to witness that.
If they didnt make us a witness to RKs revenge plan, I have no intentions to see sultan falling for Madhu track. I dont feel anything tainted. It is more like a humbug as we know its RK n Madhu at the end.

Having said that, my biggest fear is if the CVs decide to go through Sultan Madhu marriage for Aryan's sake.. I would be thoroughly disgusted as I hate third angles. I only want RK n Madhu not only at the end but throughout. I don't care if its love or hate but no 3rd entry allowed.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#58

Originally posted by: apolloartemis

I wish, more than anything else that CV's would be consistent about more things than Madhu's self-righteous streak and sentimentality that lands her in so much trouble (via Mukund and now Sultan). One minute Padmini keeps telling Madhu that Sultan is a gangster, and the next she is giving Madhu tea and milk to take to the uninvited guests. Malik and Roma are also missing- and not even a phone call to show where they are. Where is this outdoor shoot? The North Pole?!
I was one of the people who was all for the development of sub-plots and side characters to give the main leads some time to rest and not have the show rest solely on them. This is not what I meant. If you are going to do a storyline like this, it should be executed properly- I don't mind Sultan and Madhu, per say, I mind the way they are written. But I'm not going to complain too much, because in a way this track is painful, but good. It establishes that even abroad, RK is thinking of Madhu, when he put an ocean between them, it establishes that Madhu is not falling in love with/is even remotely interested in Sultan, it establishes that Sultan is interested in Madhu to some extent, and it establishes that Madhu is consistent in her insanity, which will continue to get her into trouble, like all soap heroines.
So its bitter medicine- I'm hoping that the CV"s though will bring the story back on track soon.



I dont know about Roma but the way Malik's character has been shown in the past as extremely self-righteous and protective of the baby he has been protecting since she was in her mother's womb he most likely would have been plotting to kill RK. as would most fathers in his place that I know. and we have already seen that track and the cvs cant repeat it.

Edited by Gurtiluv - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#59

Originally posted by: minu_8


Has DD been asked to act in a way to evoke disgust for madhu in audience mind? If so then she is doing an excellent job.. I am sick and tired of her repeated expressions.. Why are her expressions more intense than the situation demands???

Good she is teaching nice things to aryan.. lying for a start...

The scenes between sultan/madhu are sooo cringe inducing they are just not conceptualized well.. they try my patience.. if madhu wanted to just find peace in the middle of night when she woke up then why was that horror music in the background? and why was madhu behaving like a chor who is going out to do something her mother wil not approve..
Sultan madhu aamne saamne is completely thanda.. its like ice cold water... there is absolutely NOTHING there... Whatever they are trying to show between them is sooo forced.. its actually painful to watch.. dialogues are not interesting.. the expressions on DD's face are misplaced.. I have no clue what is it that she is supposed to express... I understand nothing from her expressions...


Minu, awesome review 🤗 pehle it was RK, now it's Madhu's turn to fall to ground with a thud 😆 kahan ud rahi thi hawa mein mahaan banke 😛 pehle taare zameen par aaye, phir saare zameen par aaye

i hate this taunting business...she wants Sultan and Co. to stay , phir she's hell bent on curing his "trust" problem...why does she have to taste everything? peene hai pee nahi toh hawa kha le ! apne aap bana le..kaka hai na..why does Madhu have to gulp it down their throats?what's the point of such scenes?🤢

in the middle of the night, she came out to get some shanti? how? by looking at RK's poster ? 😆Why did they again stress on "ahankar"?? 😕 they want us to know that it's all happening bec. of RK? 🤢 i felt she was getting charged up (jaise RaOne ho raha tha with light) ..and it worked..she was seething in anger when the BG music aaa aaa ended 😆 then she has to speak on his behalf .."tum bhi yahan shanti ke liye aaye the? " 😆
Edited by _charu_ - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#60
Shri, In one of your messages you posted how RK might deal with Sultan and Bhujang ..I tried to locate it but failed..if possible can u plz post it here...

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