7/5 Dragon Club: Kisne Kiya Aarti ka Intezaar?

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Why I think it is not time yet for Aarti to consider walking out of this marriage! (in response to someone who thought she should)

I would totally agree with you about the failure of this marriage if it had even been a month since they got married. But it hasn't. It has not even been a week. When Aarti told Ansh that they couldn't go back to the Dubeys, indirectly by saying he would eventually adjust with the Scindias, she was saying so because she is an adult and understands the difficulties of the situation, not because of her own issues with the Scindias.

See many people asked when she got married, if she is doing this for Ansh, will she also call it off when Ansh wants to go home? And here we get our answer. Aarti is teaching Ansh that things are not always easy, there are tough times, but they will get through them together. This is real parenting, even when you can't shield your children from the evils of the world, you let them know they always have a safety net to fall back on.

This is a transition period and as difficult as it is to see Ansh so withdrawn, it is not the end of the world or of the potential of this relationship. Children's emotions are to be respected, no doubt but sometimes they don't know the best solution for their own problems, that is what parents are for. Aarti, by committing Ansh to this relationship is doing something for his own good that he can't see yet. A parent cannot always listen to their child because sometimes they know better and I am sure Aarti would not be committed to this if she did not see potential for this to be a wonderful environment for Ansh to grow up in. Unlike Prashant, Ansh will now know that relationships may not always be smooth sailing but hard work and mutual effort can make them fruitful in the end. The characters in this story are still learning how to accommodate one another and that is why I so appreciated Yash's request to his mother, the only thing they all need...TIME.

I am sure one day he Ansh is going to tease PayPal about horrible they were to him when he first came to the house and they will all have a good laugh. It reminds me of my best friend, who I met when I joined a new high school in 10th grade. She was awful to me the first year I went there and I had no idea why. She later told me it was because I was friends with one of her other close friends and she thought I was trying to take the place of a member of their gang who had left the previous year. Did I even know of this girl? No. 😆 But all that complicated negative sentiment didn't stop us from being inseparable eventually, and I am sure the same will happen here. Time is key.

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Ok forgive me because today I am not going to analyse the episode in its entirety on account of how I want to pick apart that last argument between Aarti and Yash and everything else seems sort of irrelevant in context. So my analysis picks up from the moment when Ansh enters with Yash and announces to his mother that his naye papa has put him in a new school.

The first thing I noticed was that Ansh was talking; and he sounded, not excited, but not exactly the same depressed self he had been either. He was pretty matter-of-factly stating to Aarti that his school had changed. The second thing I noticed was Yash's little smirk. He clearly thought that Aarti would be expressing her deepest gratitude for his concern and his decision to put Ansh in a more expensive and upper-crust school. But how wrong he was, and that gundi bhabhi that Pratik so missed seeing (how cute was that scene?) was out and about once more. She expressed the primary problem of the situation: Yash did not talk to her before making such a huge decision on behalf of her son, yes, her son because I do still think she feels that way. I am not saying that that has any bearing on whether what Yash did was right or wrong, because for me not talking to Aarti before making this decision was absolutely wrong though the school changing decision is debatable.

Don't you love how stylishly Papa Scindia enters the scene with a completely regressive MCP dialogue to boot? But in a way he provides justification for Yash's actions, a reason why. In the Scindia family the men make the decisions and the women trust them to make the right ones. This is what Yash is expecting from Aarti, trust, so he is expecting her to fall into this mould as well. But what sets Yash apart is the fact that he is willing to listen to Aarti and hear her out. He is willing also to explain his decision to her, which according to Papa Scindia is not necessary, but it is an open window that shows that Yash is in a position, unlike his father, to learn to treat Aarti as an equal. At this moment he has no idea even, that he is not doing so.

So I want to sort of lay out the argument more clearly here:

Yash

We know that:

He likes instant solutions, no dragging of issues and no discussion. This was apparent right from his first serendipitous phone call with his future wife. He doesn't like hassles. When he sees a correct path, he takes it with complete conviction.

He was upset when he learned that Ansh's school did not have computer classes, and is also visibly upset by the alienation he sees between his daughters and Ansh

He thinks that most problems can be solved with a tangible change, like we saw with Payal and Palak, he thought that their social difficulties could be solved with extra classes where they would physically be with more kids. Similarly, here he thinks that just the physical proximity of the three children will bring them closer.

He has been brought up in a house where the men make all the decisions and the women just trust and he is visibly bothered that Aarti doesn't do that.
He is competitive and a perfectionist, which he seems to see as important goals for his children to have

He is also a pragmatist. Put children in the best school to give them the best chance at success...clearly a path of statistical and calculative knowledge

He now considers Ansh his son

He has noticed how much Aarti does for his daughters and uses this as a sort of defense, saying how could he do wrong by Ansh when she is so giving?

Aarti:

We know that:


She has pride. I think along with being upset that Yash didn't share this decision with her, her pride was wounded. Somehow him putting Ansh in a better school implied to her that what she had done was not good enough, which is I think why she got so defensive instead of dealing with the real core issue, the autonomous decision of Yash. This was further stressed by her statement that not everyone is so lucky...but why is she refusing to acknowledge that Ansh is so lucky to be able to go to any school now?

She is a romantic and an idealist. She believes that children can study anywhere if they really want to. They can study under a lamp post if they are motivated enough. This reminded me of the tone of her speech about puddles and playing in the rain. However poetic such a speech is, it is not going to sway the hyper rational Yash just as his calculative speeches are not going to touch her until they are exchanged in a heated way like this.

Yes she did play Ansh's father and mother at the Dubeys but why are gender roles being stereotyped in the first place? Why should Aarti not have a say now that she has a husband? I loved that she just spoke out right then and there and for once this trait did not bother me. The Scindias need a reality check and she is going to be the one to give it to them. There is no reason she and Yash cannot share the pants, in fact they absolutely should!

She feels misunderstood in this house regarding her views on parenting. It must have been a double blow to her to have her parenthood so constantly questioned by Gayatri and then today for the power over Ansh's life to be so decidedly taken away from her. She is not being allowed to bring Payal and Palak up the way she wants, though she knows how to improve their lives and now the rights over Ansh are also being taken away. I can sympathise with her injustice.

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The only thing I wish Aarti had said is that changing Ansh's school was a matter they could discuss later. The first matter at hand was why on earth he didn't tell her what he was doing when it was such a huge decision. I am not doubting his decision or his intentions but not telling her about them and discussing them with her was the main problem and it is yet to be dealt with. Aarti will be challenging for Yash but I think he is up to it because he is constantly looking to learn and is also not afraid to argue back when he feels it is needed, as in the precap. Why is he getting so annoyed that she doesn't trust him when he went and did something like that under her nose? I am with both of them and against both, Yash for not talking to Aarti and Aarti for missing the point of contention and arguing the change of school instead of the undermining of her authority.

Now for the actual decision, I think it could go either way. We have already discussed the disadvantages of Ansh being moved to a new school so here is the flip side from me. There is a sound argument for the fact that maybe it is best for Ansh to deal with all the change and upheaval at once and to sort of treat the school change as a part of the change in family structure. That way he becomes a Scindia all the way in one shot. Otherwise there would be this difficult time and as soon as he got comfortable, another huge change. So this could be good in that sense as well as an equaliser as Ansh will no longer have to go by school bus and can go with his sisters. But I worry about him catching up with studies etc. And I really wonder what the formidable Ms. Lobo would have to say with regards to Ansh!
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Bridge Symbolism in Friday's Episode 😳

Aarti was sitting on one side of the bridge(bridge made over the pool in Scindia mansion) with Ansh lying on Aarti's lap in depressed state of mind 😭 ; Yash silently observes both Aarti-Ansh from the other side of the bridge 😭...Yash and Aarti both were on two opposite sides of the bridge which indicates the distance that both Aarti-Ansh feels between them and entire Scindia Family ...Will Yash bridge this gap in future by walking down to the other side of the bridge where Aarti and Ansh were sitting alone ?? 🤔
Just before this Bridge scene ,Yash observed Aarti making a formal apology to Gayatri regarding Ansh's behaviour during the computer fiasco scene even before Yash could ask anything to Gayatri about the locking up Ansh in a room incident and this is where Yash sort of realised that both Aarti and Ansh are still not feeling at home and r being treated more like a guest in the house ,reason why even today Aarti has to make a formal apology to Gayatri like a guest ..No wonder Yash does not go ahead with the whole locking up matter with Gayatri here because he realised that first he needs to make efforts to bridge this formal gap between his family and Aarti-Ansh and make them part of the family before he sorts out other matters 😳 ...
Thats why the bridge scene followed where Aarti-Ansh r sitting on that bridge consoling each other and Yash was overhearing both their POVs from the other side of the bridge which is so damn symbolic 🤔...So the distance between Aarti-Ansh and Yash's family was that bridge on which Yash will hv to walk and make efforts to pull Aarti-Ansh on the other side of the bridge ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️...
Thats why we dint see Yash yelling at Gayatri in last episode but he was trying to silently observe that what exactly is going wrong between his family and Aarti-Ansh ...and finally he realised that first he needs to reduce this distance between Aarti-Ansh and his family especially Gayatri and only then rest of the issues can b sorted out ...Yelling at Gayatri will further increase the distance between both parties which he does not want 😊

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Episode Analysis
Today's Episode started off looking like a filler but the second and third part of the Episode was so brilliantly executed that I forgot what I saw in first part 😆...I still dunno whether Yash was right or Aarti was right 🤔...its debatable as we can see Aarti has trust issues and Yash comes from old-school of decision-making like his father 🤔 ...Both can come together to bring positive changes in each other whose start is made today as for the first time Yash made honest efforts to explain himself to Aarti and even Aarti made efforts to tell him about all her issues regarding his school-change decision 👍🏼 ...
This much needed interaction between both will what slowly give way to Yash-Aarti track where both will realise each other's flaws and eventually both their weaknesses will become each other's strength with Yash teaching Aarti to trust people as not all r backstabbers and Aarti teaching Yash about modern-day parenting and decision-making with changing times where men and women are equal ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Yash and Aarti are yet to find a similar direction ...both still r following opposite paths and not believing in jointly choosing one common path 😊
All must b wondering what is the purpose of Yash waiting outside with his car for Aarti when Aarti had to refuse taking lift from him and then Yash had to alone drive off while she takes a Auto to reach home 😕😆...When I saw the scene in the start ,even I was wondering the same that what is the use of this scene ..
But after the episode ,I can realise why the scene was shown in the start 😛 ;That scene tried to indicate that how even after marriage Yash and Aarti continues to select opposite paths and direction even though both their destination is same 😊..,..Yash goes in one direction while Aarti takes auto and goes in another direction when both their destination was Scindia Mansion only ...In the last part of the episode too we saw both were concerned for Ansh but both their views r different regarding school change just how in the morning both their paths were different with Yash in car and Aarti in Auto ...So unless they decide to walk on a common path together jointly , things can never improve between their kids 😊...Aarti should hv taken the lift from Yash and even Yash should hv made sure Aarti sits inside the car rather than simply driving off ...Unless in a husband-wife relationship ,they show this authority on each other ,they can never buy any happiness for their kids because no matter what they do ,a joint force is missing somewhere
The tale of Irritating Bua and Manipulative Paridi 😛😆
Ok I must admit that the Bua is a complete mis match in this otherwise beautiful story 😊..Her laughing antics and taunts were a bit over the top today which does not go well with this show because rest of the characters r very real and so Bua becomes a Odd man out 😊...Gayatri is a perfect balanced character to give those taunts to her bahus because one can connect with Gayatri's insecurities and dilemma since Gayatri has various shades to her character from being a forgetful person to a typical Saas to a bulakkad wife whereas Bua comes across like a typical scheaming vamp with no real shades ...I liked how Gayatri arranged a good alternative for Ansh today by asking Pratik to go and get Ansh from school 👏 ,this proves her character has got humanity and some emotions unlike Bua who seems to hv been brought only to give those unwanted taunts 🥱,...So its a request to CVs that either show variation in Bua's character or just send her back to pilgrimage again 😆
Coming to Paridi ,I m really liking the way she is multitasking so far with her job plus keeping her sasuma happy 😛😆😆...Here Gayatri should b more worried about Pratik actually who is slowly becoming Joru ka ghulam rather than wasting her time behind Yash-Aarti 😆😊...But hving said that ,I feel Paridi should not everytime take things for granted and make sure she keeps her husband's dignity intact in front of family rather than reducing him to a puppet in her hands as that will create issues in long run 😊...I liked how she handled her radio program today 👏 but I dint like how in front of all Pratik is slowly made to look like Paridi's pet shef and she is happy with it
Devar-Bhabhi Bonding 😳😳
Pratik-Aarti bonding is slowly becoming one of my favourites in the show the way Pratik told Aarti about how he is missing her Gundi bhabhi in action and also informed her about Yash receiving Ansh from school ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️...I really hope in future Pratik motivates Aarti not to loose her strong gundi side or her voice in front of injustice 😊
Yash has a old school decision-making habit just like his father ...Aarti has trust issues because of her past-betrayal from Prashant ..Both needs to councel each other 😆
Yash is stereotyped like his family ...he has learnt to take decisions on his own from his father and noone till now really told him that post marrriage its necessary to take joint decisions with his wife because this rule was never followed in this family ...So he finds nothing wrong taking decisions for Ansh here being the man of the family ,... On the other hand Aarti has a deja-vu of betrayal and fear again because earlier too Prashant played with her life in the name of decision-making being a man
So Aarti has trust issues because of Prashant factor and Yash has stereotyped decision-making issues coming from his family ...Aarti needs to let go off his past and start trusting Yash and even Yash needs to bring out a positive change in his own thinking since on one hand he says times r changing ,things r progressing and on other hand his thoughts r regressive because of his family who believes only Men can take decisions ...
Both might bring the changes in each other ...Aarti might start trusting in another Man again once Yash really proves himself as Ansh's father 😳 and Yash might start changing his stereotypical old school thoughts once Aarti shows him the other side of the coin in a husband-wife relationship 😳
Yash's explanation to Aarti in Bedroom proves that he does care for Aarti's views too and not exactly thinks like his family regarding decision-making 😳


I think Yash's main idea is to make sure all 3 kids can spend some time together ..he later confessed that this was the main reason more than education and all

I guess in friday's episode Yash realised that all 3 kids need to know each other well which is only possible if they r in same school because somewhere PayPal and Ansh r jealous of each other but if kids can hv the unity together then there wont b silly fights over computer or any such thing in the house and even Gayatri will no more point fingers at Ansh or try to compare Ansh with PayPal because the kids will b united together 😉😛...So this was Yash's main idea behind changing Ansh's school 😳
Rest of the things like giving better education to Ansh in a big school was secondary for Yash in this case but when Daddy Scindia told Aarti that all decisions were taken by Men of the house and in this case Yash took this decision to give a bigger school to Ansh since he is part of a big family now ,even Yash's expression suggested he was not fully in agreement with his father and reason why he went inside to give justification to Aarti because he knew Aarti is thinking the same but thats not the case 😳...
Initially Yash tries to give the excuse of education and all but when he sees Aarti is smart and wont fall for such silly excuse since u dont need a big school to educate a kid if the kid is intelligent enough 😉😆 ,so eventually Yash confessed the main reason was to make sure Ansh and PayPal gel well together in a common place ..and so what a better way than putting all kids in same school 😳
However here the main point is both Yash and Aarti r not realising that they need to keep trust on each other and take joint decisions for the kids 😊 ...Yash should hv discussed this school issue with Aarti before taking this decision because his justification to Aarti later suggests that he does not believe in his family rules of how only Men should take decisions or else he would not hv bothered to give an explanation to Aarti later 😉..so somewhere he does realise that he should hv spoken to Aarti before this decision 😳//...Also Aarti should understand that not all Men r like Prashant and at least make some effort to trust Yash for once and try to explain to him that they should take joint decisions for the kids from here on 😳..If Aarti alone keeps showing her possessiveness for Ansh ,then even if Yash tries he wont b able to make a place for himself in Ansh's heart ,so Aarti should at least give that fair chance to Yash here 😊
About precap ...will see how it goes tomorrow before commenting on it ...but I hope both r able to realise where they r going wrong and try to rectify it 😊...Overall it was quite a good moving episode mainly because of the second and third part ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Edited by jyoti06 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Jyo, great analysis about the bridge symbolism😊 Hoping for Yash waiting, but it just maybe one of the Dubeys ... Her expression was not of pleasant shock, but CVs maybe fooling us 😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Loved the title of the topic...
Yes let's see who waited for Aarti..
My guess is it is Yash..
It is definitely not Prashant as she does not have horrified expression
I also think it is not Dubeys also other wise she will have Sad expressions...
I think it is definitely Yash as she has a really surprise expressions.. As she knows that he has to go for some important meeting and he is so puntual he never gets late.
So to see him waiting for her and that also when he needed to go for that meeting must have really surprised her...
and so it is proved that Yash took everything in whatever happened in Children's room not only that he also realized that his mom was not treating Aarti and Ansh the way they should be treated with respect. e also noticed his mom's taunting about Computer class and also noticed how Palak went to her grandmother to complain about the lost computer...
Yash Scinhdia does not say much but his keen eyes misses nothing... His mouth does not speak much but his eyes speaks volume...
So the the relationship of Aarya is going to improve in spite of entry of that awful jeaoluse buvaji who will not keep any stone unturned to bring trouble on Aarti... but hope Yash makes it all better for his Aartiji... :)
But let's see what Aarti is surprised about...
Waiting for today's episode
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Awesome posts! I agree completely about the time element. It is truly important. Ansh is just a little kid. He needs time to understand how to get assimilated in a large family and how to deal with people like Gayatri. And the bridge symbolism was beautifully said. Actually it was one of my favorite scenes that day. It was so sad how Ansh was just laying with his head in Aarti's lap, and Yash saw the effort Aarti was making to tell Ansh that everything will be ok. It was a beautiful scene :D I can't wait for today's episode!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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So, who does Aarti see and gets shocked!

Prashant?
Yash?
Dubey's?

Hmmm tune in to DC to find out :)



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PV Creatives, here is a list of songs that we would like to see on Yash and Aarti! DC members or anyone, if you want to see any other songs, please drop me a PM and I'll try to update list on page 1 of DC daily!

#1. Dil kya kare jab kissi ko (julie)
#2. Bheegi bheegi raato mein
#3. Haye haye ye majboori :P
#4. Woh hain zara
#5. husn ke...laakhon ke rang
#6. aaj rapat jaiyo (namak halal)
#7. sajna hai mujhe ☺️
#8. Baahon mein challe aao
#9. Jaane do na
#10.Roop tera mastana
#11 Piya tu
#12. Bhor bhaye panghat pe
#13. Chadhti jawani meri 🤣
#14. Aa zara (Murder 2)
#14. Aaja Piya
#15 LSD 🤣
#16. Zara Zara touch me
#17.choli ke peechhe kya hai
#18 Hey sexy lady
#19. Sarkai liyo khatiya 🤣 jaada lagge! 🤣 (heard of it?)
#20. Jaadu hai nasha hai
#21.Could I have this kiss forever!
#22. Bheege hont tere
#23. Ooo lala Ooo lala (Dirty Picture)





Edited by 49erFan - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Now I am waiting anxiously to see who is waiting for Aarti Ji😆 If it's Yash, then yayyy😆


somebody please give live updates ...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Who the heck is talking about Aarti should walk out from this marriage???
Oh man that is totaly not good...
Aarti is an orphan girl whose husband has walked out on her with a baby in her womb...
Her former in-laws have loved and supported her but they have also hurt Aarti emotionally by tellig lies for this marriage
Aarti does not work and does not want to go back to her former in-laws who has emotionally used her to hide the truth about her divorce status..
Her friend Mansi is also prejudice with lots of issues
If she at all walks out where would she go???
Her best option is to stay in this house only because Yash is a decent man... a manwho is truthful and full of integrity. There is only one person... oh now two with buvaji who can be pain in the neck but other then that including Pa Scindhia all the members of the family are decent.
Yes her son has been treated badly but she knows in her heart that Yashji will take care of that after knowing the details..
She herself did not expect Yash to blow on his mother as he did not blow at her for all the untidiness she kept in his room and Ansh's misbehavior..
Not once Yash told her to keep her things in proper places nor he told her to keep her son in check.. He only told her little strongly when she said indirectly that their too much disclipine is not good for his daughters.
She is far better with Yash then with any other and Yash will prove that what Shobhaji thought of him was absolutely correct. He will take care of her and Ansh and make her happy.
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