Kyunki Saas Bhi Kabhi Bahu Thi 2: EDT #19 - DT note pg14 - Page 7

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

I think they want to pave way for Parth's death. As a positive character his death would have been very heroic and he wasn't a heroic character.

Or maybe he redeems himself and dies out of guilt

Exactly they are paving way for Parth's death sequence but I really wished he died as a positive character not negative.

Originally posted by: The_Best

Then why is Tulsi always so mad at Mandira? She didn’t even hate Noina as much as she has been shown hating Mandira. Can’t even hear her name. If Mandira is good, then Tulsi should stop hating her unfairly. I understand if she can’t like her because she has a child with Mihir, but it’s not Mandira or Mihir’s fault. She can blame god, circumstances or anything else for why Mihir got into accident and lost memory and was with Mandira. Mandira isn’t at fault for Mihir losing his memory. Mihir isn’t at fault for getting into accident and losing his memory. Mihir and Mandira aren’t at fault for sleeping and having Karan. Mihir always has to hear from her about Mandira. If she had so much problem, she could’ve divorced him long back rather than trying to act like she did some ahsaan on him and Karan. First make your own choices and then act like you did ahsaan all the time and keep continuing for decades

This is because the writers are changing canon of S1 and don’t care to even try to make sense of it. If they even make a passing remark that Mandira turned evil once she found out Mihir was married and she ended up having Karan as a means to make him divorce Tulsi and pick her it would make sense. But they never did that either.

Per the vague thread spun here, Mandira is as much a victim of circumstances as Mihir is. She slept with him before marrying him and while morally it was a taboo and still is, it’s not exactly the same as intentionally sleeping with a married man and making him cheat on his wife. Tulsi accepting Karan is a big deal regardless of the circumstances under which he was conceived but herein if she’s raised him from day one then the act in and of itself shouldn’t be used as a weapon or an Ace card to win any and all arguments. Karan ideally shouldn’t have even known that he had a different mother as shouldn’t have any of the other kids but here no one was acting like this was news. So essentially Karan was raised here with the absolute knowledge and his parentage and made to see how Tulsi’s acceptance is such a big favour done to him. He’s lived and grown up feeling like he has to earn that acceptance and pay Tulsi back for it every day. Tulsi feels shocked to hear him saying she was wrong to slap his son, she gives an earful to Nandini about the slap episode but doesn’t tell Damini a single word about how she was wrong too and that was such a crass thing to say especially coming from a woman.

So when Nandini is angry at Tulsi that anger perhaps just doesn’t stem from the way she feels her trauma was dismissed for Rio to come to SN or how her son was also ignored for a guy who barely stepped into SN, it’s also her years of pent up frustration regarding the way Karan has been treated by the family coming to the fore. She perhaps feels Karan overcompensates because he feels obligated and like he owes Tulsi for accepting him whereas Gautam can do anything and everything but Tulsi wouldn’t call him or his wife out because she’s being partial to her own blood.

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

I seriously want Rio and Parth to kill each other and then Nakul gets the entire wealth

Nakul be like eat five star and do nothing

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

This is because the writers are changing canon of S1 and don’t care to even try to make sense of it. If they even make a passing remark that Mandira turned evil once she found out Mihir was married and she ended up having Karan as a means to make him divorce Tulsi and pick her it would make sense. But they never did that either.

Per the vague thread spun here, Mandira is as much a victim of circumstances as Mihir is. She slept with him before marrying him and while morally it was a taboo and still is, it’s not exactly the same as intentionally sleeping with a married man and making him cheat on his wife. Tulsi accepting Karan is a big deal regardless of the circumstances under which he was conceived but herein if she’s raised him from day one then the act in and of itself shouldn’t be used as a weapon or an Ace card to win any and all arguments. Karan ideally shouldn’t have even known that he had a different mother as shouldn’t have any of the other kids but here no one was acting like this was news. So essentially Karan was raised here with the absolute knowledge and his parentage and made to see how Tulsi’s acceptance is such a big favour done to him. He’s lived and grown up feeling like he has to earn that acceptance and pay Tulsi back for it every day. Tulsi feels shocked to hear him saying she was wrong to slap his son, she gives an earful to Nandini about the slap episode but doesn’t tell Damini a single word about how she was wrong too and that was such a crass thing to say especially coming from a woman.

So when Nandini is angry at Tulsi that anger perhaps just doesn’t stem from the way she feels her trauma was dismissed for Rio to come to SN or how her son was also ignored for a guy who barely stepped into SN, it’s also her years of pent up frustration regarding the way Karan has been treated by the family coming to the fore. She perhaps feels Karan overcompensates because he feels obligated and like he owes Tulsi for accepting him whereas Gautam can do anything and everything but Tulsi wouldn’t call him or his wife out because she’s being partial to her own blood.

Originally posted by: The_Best

That’s why Mandira shouldn’t have given her child to Tulsi. She should’ve shared custody with Mihir. I don’t know what made her give her child because normally no mother would give their child to someone else. Step-mother can never replace real mother. There may be extremely rare exceptions, but those are exceptions and not the norm. Foster and adopted mothers are better than stepmothers. I just hope they clear Mihir Mandira thing more. Tired of characters speaking nonsense. Even if later they change the story that he didn’t have a memory loss, Tulsi still made a choice to be with him. She can keep talking about it like she has been doing it for decades. Means nothing when she herself decided to be with him. She wants to have a cake and eat it too

May be Mandira died after giving birth to Karan.

Kyunki sub is Reddit is crashing on the Parth twist

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

This is because the writers are changing canon of S1 and don’t care to even try to make sense of it. If they even make a passing remark that Mandira turned evil once she found out Mihir was married and she ended up having Karan as a means to make him divorce Tulsi and pick her it would make sense. But they never did that either.

Per the vague thread spun here, Mandira is as much a victim of circumstances as Mihir is. She slept with him before marrying him and while morally it was a taboo and still is, it’s not exactly the same as intentionally sleeping with a married man and making him cheat on his wife. Tulsi accepting Karan is a big deal regardless of the circumstances under which he was conceived but herein if she’s raised him from day one then the act in and of itself shouldn’t be used as a weapon or an Ace card to win any and all arguments. Karan ideally shouldn’t have even known that he had a different mother as shouldn’t have any of the other kids but here no one was acting like this was news. So essentially Karan was raised here with the absolute knowledge and his parentage and made to see how Tulsi’s acceptance is such a big favour done to him. He’s lived and grown up feeling like he has to earn that acceptance and pay Tulsi back for it every day. Tulsi feels shocked to hear him saying she was wrong to slap his son, she gives an earful to Nandini about the slap episode but doesn’t tell Damini a single word about how she was wrong too and that was such a crass thing to say especially coming from a woman.

So when Nandini is angry at Tulsi that anger perhaps just doesn’t stem from the way she feels her trauma was dismissed for Rio to come to SN or how her son was also ignored for a guy who barely stepped into SN, it’s also her years of pent up frustration regarding the way Karan has been treated by the family coming to the fore. She perhaps feels Karan overcompensates because he feels obligated and like he owes Tulsi for accepting him whereas Gautam can do anything and everything but Tulsi wouldn’t call him or his wife out because she’s being partial to her own blood.

If Karan was raised in this family since birth and yet knows he is Mandira's son then probably that is the biggest proof that he has been discriminated against in this family,

It could even be that Karan was not brought back immediately at birth but after Ansh was taken away by Aditya Gujaral (as per this cannon I dont think any middlemen like Raj Bhasin or that Vikram exist and I doubt Harsh exists either), so with Gautam and Ansh both gone, Karan was the only male child of Mihir in vicinity (despite all these talks of equality, Viranis do prefer sons over daughters) so they got him back but with a regular reminder on the greatness they exhibited having an illegitimate child accepted

It might not even be direct taunts but just indirect lines to keep him in place. Gautam was given away despite being the legitimate child hence he has all the rights to whine, but Karan was taken in despite being illegitimate hence he should always be sacrificing. I dont think Karan is even holier than thou this season, it is rather his upbriging that he can not have anything for himself first. He is moving extra mile just to prove himself. If what Parth told yesterday was correct then he is not just doing that himself but even forcing his children to. He decided to not take the property, fine that is his choice, but why force Parth to do that? Parth was selected by Ba probably because back then she felt he was the best (or he was the only great great grandson), so Karan cant force him leave that property.

While this no way justifies what Parth did or is doing, but that of course could be a reason, assuming he has seen since childhood that everytime his father forces him, his siblings and mother to ignore their wishes so that Viranis could be given (Maybe that is why Nandani didnt have enough money to buy a phone while Karan was giving money to Viranis for running the household). He doesnt want that, he wants to free himself from this self loathing stuff just because his grandfather had an ONS under amnesia and then after regaining his memory had his father accepted. I mean come on that is the basic minimal you would accept from a decent man (I am not counting Tulsi here, she obviously did a great sacrifice accepting some other woman's child but that cant be the reason for Parth to be forced to give everything to Tulsi)

Originally posted by: JustRandomGirl

Kyunki sub is Reddit is crashing on the Parth twist

Wow I really hope this brings some TRP...

I personally am loving this

I was least interested till day before yesterday about Parth dying along with Rio, now I am so much against it. Parth needs to continue, he is fun, sweet and yet better than Ranvijay as the male villian

Originally posted by: MJ_1009

no clue if even if he's exposing rio,will he be die in the process? i guess tulsi or nandini will shoot him just to try to get some trp just like tulsi shooting ansh scene lol

Either Rio or parth are not iconic villains to get huge trp. Those who stopped watching because of Rio might start watching again.

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

I still want to understand how is Karan's POA helping him sell Ba's property. And why isn't he selling Karan's business.

Karan ka business agar itna achha chal raha hai to obviously uski valuation Angaar ke ek heritage house se 100 times zyada hogi

Was baa's property officially transferred to Tulsi? I recall baa gave the property in parth's name and left a note that it should be given to Tulsi and can't be sold to anyone else. Isn't it legally still in parth's name..

There is no use of selling a successful business when he can make lot more by developing the business. He can have a job n status by growing the company.