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Why did Ishita hide her decision to marry Raman from Shagun? She doesn’t know she’s bad. She only knew she was going to send Ruhi to boarding school for short period of time. She felt bad for her and was supporting her. She hated Raman and thought he was the bad one. But then agreed to marry him for Ruhi and didn’t care if she was separating a child from her mother forever by taking the custody from her through the marriage? I thought she will find about her cheating or that she’s trying to get Ruhi only to make Ashok happy. That’s how and why she will decide to support Raman and marry him for Ruhi’s custody. But nothing like that happened. First she decided to separate Ruhi from her father. Then mother

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Originally posted by: The_Best

Why did Ishita hide her decision to marry Raman from Shagun? She doesn’t know she’s bad. She only knew she was going to send Ruhi to boarding school for short period of time. She felt bad for her and was supporting her. She hated Raman and thought he was the bad one. But then agreed to marry him for Ruhi and didn’t care if she was separating a child from her mother forever by taking the custody from her through the marriage? I thought she will find about her cheating or that she’s trying to get Ruhi only to make Ashok happy. That’s how and why she will decide to support Raman and marry him for Ruhi’s custody. But nothing like that happened. First she decided to separate Ruhi from her father. Then mother

Ishita sees Shagun trying to get Ruhi but she never sees Shagun taking care of her daughter once when she visits her home. Shagun has hired a nanny to look after Ruhi, not saying that she can’t have help but she also further emphasises that she would send Ruhi to a boarding school.

Ruhi has been neglected by her dad but she’s still a child who goes from a home full of people to a home with barely any other person around her except for her nanny. Her mom is too busy to spend time with her.

Initially Ishita thinks Raman is a bad person and deserves to have his child taken away given his treatment of her, but Shagun isn’t gonna replace what is at Raman’s with a better alternative and life, but something far lonelier and emptier. Ruhi may be neglected by her dad but she had her grandparents, her chachu Romi, her mama Mihir, 2 buas in Simi and Rinki who absolutely adored her to bits and loved her so much. Ruhi misses the love of her parents but she still has the love of a lot of her family members, she’s not left to nannies and sent to boarding schools. She even has a little cousin in Ananya to play with eventually. But who is at Ashok and Shagun’s?

Ishita could see that her anger and hate for Raman was not reason enough for her to thrust Ruhi to such a fate.

More importantly, when presented with an opportunity to be her mother, she took it up as she was human enough to be a bit selfish. She knew Shagun finding out that Ishita is not on her side anymore but will marry Raman herself can be angry and that can hurt her and Raman’s chances at securing Ruhi’s custody. Shagun might claim that Ishita has brainwashed her child against her though she conveniently never bothered to show up to see and meet Ruhi for years. Ruhi never met her brother Aditya, Raman and Shagun’s first born even to celebrate festivals like Rakhi and Bhai Dooj or on their birthdays.

Ergo…


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Originally posted by: EkPaheli

Ishita sees Shagun trying to get Ruhi but she never sees Shagun taking care of her daughter once when she visits her home. Shagun has hired a nanny to look after Ruhi, not saying that she can’t have help but she also further emphasises that she would send Ruhi to a boarding school.

Ruhi has been neglected by her dad but she’s still a child who goes from a home full of people to a home with barely any other person around her except for her nanny. Her mom is too busy to spend time with her.

Initially Ishita thinks Raman is a bad person and deserves to have his child taken away given his treatment of her, but Shagun isn’t gonna replace what is at Raman’s with a better alternative and life, but something far lonelier and emptier. Ruhi may be neglected by her dad but she had her grandparents, her chachu Romi, her mama Mihir, 2 buas in Simi and Rinki who absolutely adored her to bits and loved her so much. Ruhi misses the love of her parents but she still has the love of a lot of her family members, she’s not left to nannies and sent to boarding schools. She even has a little cousin in Ananya to play with eventually. But who is at Ashok and Shagun’s?

Ishita could see that her anger and hate for Raman was not reason enough for her to thrust Ruhi to such a fate.

More importantly, when presented with an opportunity to be her mother, she took it up as she was human enough to be a bit selfish. She knew Shagun finding out that Ishita is not on her side anymore but will marry Raman herself can be angry and that can hurt her and Raman’s chances at securing Ruhi’s custody. Shagun might claim that Ishita has brainwashed her child against her though she conveniently never bothered to show up to see and meet Ruhi for years. Ruhi never met her brother Aditya, Raman and Shagun’s first born even to celebrate festivals like Rakhi and Bhai Dooj or on their birthdays.

Ergo…


The thing is right before she agrees to marry Raman she was still siding with Shagun and thought she was the better choice for Ruhi compared to leaving Ruhi with her father and his house. It’s not like she wasn’t seeing Ruhi missing her grandmother and others in her father’s house. She was but was still separating her from them right until the Raman’s marriage proposal comes to her. So for me, it just seems selfish because imagine if Shagun wasn’t getting Ruhi just to impress Ashok or was a normal mother. Ishita didn’t know all that about Shagun but still backstabbed a mother to get her child for herself just because she’s attached to her or love her and she can’t have a child of her own. She then keeps pretending in front of Shagun to still be on her side once she agrees to marry Raman. First she kept doing this to Raman. Now doing the same to Shagun when she got the opportunity to be a mother to Ruhi herself. She’s highly irritating. Initially she was tolerable until she started separating Ruhi from her parents. Always interfering in Raman’s life and now highly insensitive and cruel to a mother just because she thinks she will temporarily send Ruhi abroad or thinks she isn’t giving her enough time. Big deal. That doesn’t justify her to take away a child from her parents. Raman is completely right about her
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Originally posted by: The_Best

The thing is right before she agrees to marry Raman she was still siding with Shagun and thought she was the better choice for Ruhi compared to leaving Ruhi with her father and his house. It’s not like she wasn’t seeing Ruhi missing her grandmother and others in her father’s house. She was but was still separating her from them right until the Raman’s marriage proposal comes to her. So for me, it just seems selfish because imagine if Shagun wasn’t getting Ruhi just to impress Ashok or was a normal mother. Ishita didn’t know all that about Shagun but still backstabbed a mother to get her child for herself just because she’s attached to her or love her and she can’t have a child of her own. She then keeps pretending in front of Shagun to still be on her side once she agrees to marry Raman. First she kept doing this to Raman. Now doing the same to Shagun when she got the opportunity to be a mother to Ruhi herself. She’s highly irritating. Initially she was tolerable until she started separating Ruhi from her parents. Always interfering in Raman’s life and now highly insensitive and cruel to a mother just because she thinks she will temporarily send Ruhi abroad or thinks she isn’t giving her enough time. Big deal. That doesn’t justify her to take away a child from her parents. Raman is completely right about her

Yes it’s selfish but she also sees that Shagun’s reasons and motivations for wanting Ruhi back have nothing to do with her missing her child or her wish to be close to her but rather her wish to hurt Raman as it’s what Ashok wants. Nothing else.

She sees Shagun’s home and she watches Ruhi getting lonely there and even though she clearly sees Shagun is not a good mother herself she thinks she would be more loving towards Ruhi than Raman but that’s not the case at all. Raman’s indifference stems from his trauma which she doesn’t know of yet, but for Shagun it’s absolute apathy. As a man Raman is not expected to be around his child as often as Shagun as a mom is, but Shagun not only is absolutely unbothered about her daughter but she’s just scoring her as a win, a trophy which is worse.

To Ishita, Raman is a horrible father to that point but she hadn’t weighed in on the option of what Shagun would be like until the opportunity presented itself. Now, even if she were to change her mind in the event that she wouldn’t marry Raman but would it still have been fair of her to let Shagun have Ruhi? It’s not like Ishita could advocate for a third option at that point even. Legally there was no such option possible either.

Until the proposal comes she has no idea how to solve this issue with a middle ground or an alternative that works for Ruhi, when it presents itself as well it’s not like she jumps on the opportunity out of pure selfishness as well, her father literally threatened her to go on a fast unto death if she refused to this marriage proposal. Even if she could convince her father at that point that his threats were wrong and emotional blackmail, the idea had taken root in her heart and mind - to be Ruhi’s mother. Her selfishness was not snatching away a loving mother from her child, rather it was taking a child from the clutches of an indifferent mother, a nasty stepfather to the arms of a loving family where she herself would be present as the mom. Up until then whenever she had an argument with Raman regarding Ruhi she had no standing to speak about anything and even if she could see Raman making a mistake she had no way to stop him wherein her voice mattered, because she had no claim to Ruhi whatsoever. This proposal changed that. Raman’s dad was asking her to be Ruhi’s mom - she knew she couldn’t necessarily make Raman love her but she could at least have some say when it comes to Ruhi with full rights now. Considering that the family had extended the proposal, she could even ask them to weigh in on the matter and settle any disputes between Raman and her were they to arise since it was quite literally an arranged marriage, only for the sake of a child here. Tomorrow if she were to make a decision for Ruhi she couldn’t be stopped just because, even if she could be asked to explain herself. No one can tell her she has no rights or claim to even weigh in on any matter regarding Ruhi as a mere neighbour who shouldn’t poke her nose in their matters. She could rightly claim that she married Raman for Ruhi and hence it’s her right and duty to look after her child.

Ishita until that point was stuck between a rock and a hard place wherein she saw that both the options were bad, but she couldn’t quite figure out how to solve the situation and get out of there in a way which didn’t hurt Ruhi more and worse. Ishita felt that Raman is indifferent, his parents are old and would pass away eventually, Ruhi’s uncles and aunts may have kids of their own and get busy with their own families to care for Ruhi and in that event what would happen to Ruhi if she left her to Raman… the alternative was Shagun who would send her daughter to boarding school for most of the year, hand her over to nannies for the rest when she’s at home. So she saw two bad futures for Ruhi regardless of her choice of parent in both the scenarios and no way to make a good deal out of any of them in the long run for Ruhi.

But then she got the third choice - to be there for Ruhi herself for as long as she could, as long as she had breath in her body and for Ruhi to also get more love in maternal grandparents aka her own parents, another aunt, another uncle and a cousin in her sis, BIL and nephew.

She quite literally agreed to marry a man for the sake of this child who she felt was extremely violent, brash and disrespectful and staked her life on the line since she felt she could save Ruhi’s this way with some chance, hope and luck on her side.

Had Shagun been a loving mother it would have been wrong to do to her what Ishita did, but when a mother can walk out on her child who is barely a week old to go live with her boyfriend and never looks back for five years, it’s not wrong to do what Ishita did.

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Originally posted by: EkPaheli

Yes it’s selfish but she also sees that Shagun’s reasons and motivations for wanting Ruhi back have nothing to do with her missing her child or her wish to be close to her but rather her wish to hurt Raman as it’s what Ashok wants. Nothing else.

She sees Shagun’s home and she watches Ruhi getting lonely there and even though she clearly sees Shagun is not a good mother herself she thinks she would be more loving towards Ruhi than Raman but that’s not the case at all. Raman’s indifference stems from his trauma which she doesn’t know of yet, but for Shagun it’s absolute apathy. As a man Raman is not expected to be around his child as often as Shagun as a mom is, but Shagun not only is absolutely unbothered about her daughter but she’s just scoring her as a win, a trophy which is worse.

To Ishita, Raman is a horrible father to that point but she hadn’t weighed in on the option of what Shagun would be like until the opportunity presented itself. Now, even if she were to change her mind in the event that she wouldn’t marry Raman but would it still have been fair of her to let Shagun have Ruhi? It’s not like Ishita could advocate for a third option at that point even. Legally there was no such option possible either.

Until the proposal comes she has no idea how to solve this issue with a middle ground or an alternative that works for Ruhi, when it presents itself as well it’s not like she jumps on the opportunity out of pure selfishness as well, her father literally threatened her to go on a fast unto death if she refused to this marriage proposal. Even if she could convince her father at that point that his threats were wrong and emotional blackmail, the idea had taken root in her heart and mind - to be Ruhi’s mother. Her selfishness was not snatching away a loving mother from her child, rather it was taking a child from the clutches of an indifferent mother, a nasty stepfather to the arms of a loving family where she herself would be present as the mom. Up until then whenever she had an argument with Raman regarding Ruhi she had no standing to speak about anything and even if she could see Raman making a mistake she had no way to stop him wherein her voice mattered, because she had no claim to Ruhi whatsoever. This proposal changed that. Raman’s dad was asking her to be Ruhi’s mom - she knew she couldn’t necessarily make Raman love her but she could at least have some say when it comes to Ruhi with full rights now. Considering that the family had extended the proposal, she could even ask them to weigh in on the matter and settle any disputes between Raman and her were they to arise since it was quite literally an arranged marriage, only for the sake of a child here. Tomorrow if she were to make a decision for Ruhi she couldn’t be stopped just because, even if she could be asked to explain herself. No one can tell her she has no rights or claim to even weigh in on any matter regarding Ruhi as a mere neighbour who shouldn’t poke her nose in their matters. She could rightly claim that she married Raman for Ruhi and hence it’s her right and duty to look after her child.

Ishita until that point was stuck between a rock and a hard place wherein she saw that both the options were bad, but she couldn’t quite figure out how to solve the situation and get out of there in a way which didn’t hurt Ruhi more and worse. Ishita felt that Raman is indifferent, his parents are old and would pass away eventually, Ruhi’s uncles and aunts may have kids of their own and get busy with their own families to care for Ruhi and in that event what would happen to Ruhi if she left her to Raman… the alternative was Shagun who would send her daughter to boarding school for most of the year, hand her over to nannies for the rest when she’s at home. So she saw two bad futures for Ruhi regardless of her choice of parent in both the scenarios and no way to make a good deal out of any of them in the long run for Ruhi.

But then she got the third choice - to be there for Ruhi herself for as long as she could, as long as she had breath in her body and for Ruhi to also get more love in maternal grandparents aka her own parents, another aunt, another uncle and a cousin in her sis, BIL and nephew.

She quite literally agreed to marry a man for the sake of this child who she felt was extremely violent, brash and disrespectful and staked her life on the line since she felt she could save Ruhi’s this way with some chance, hope and luck on her side.

Had Shagun been a loving mother it would have been wrong to do to her what Ishita did, but when a mother can walk out on her child who is barely a week old to go live with her boyfriend and never looks back for five years, it’s not wrong to do what Ishita did.

First bold - I think you don’t remember the beginning completely. I just watched the first 53 episodes. Ishita never finds out about Shagun wanting Ruhi just for Ashok or that Ashok is nasty or abusive stepfather to Ruhi. She doesn’t find about all that before agreeing to marry Raman. She only knew about Shagun wanting to send Ruhi to boarding school and that too temporarily until things gets sorted out. Even after that she was fine with leaving Ruhi to Shagun. So, she’s is selfish and cruel to want to separate Ruhi from her mother by marrying Raman which would mean he would get full custody (not that I am against Raman getting full custody). If she had found about Shagun’s complete reality or Ashok’s reality she would’ve been completely justified in not caring about Shagun. But now she isn’t. That’s why I won’t feel bad for her anymore when Raman turns toxic which I heard he does later.

Last bold- She didn’t do any favor on Raman. She’s selfish and wants a child for herself so agreed to marry him. Yes, it’s good that she genuinely loves Ruhi but that doesn’t justify her trying to separate her first from her father and then mother. Of course, Shagun is bad but she doesn’t know that yet. She has seen far worse behavior from Raman than from Shagun yet still agreed to marry Raman and betray Shagun because she wants the child for herself.

Anyways, I initially asked here because I wanted to see what those who watched yhm thought and because I wanted to vent somewhere after seeing her behavior smiley36 I like Raman, Shagun and Ashok as they are presented as how they are. No whitewashing or anything. They aren’t shown different than how they are unlike Ishita who’s shown as this angelic person when she’s selfish.

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Chawl ke bachhe or SN ke bachhe mein farak hai Akshay madhvi bahut pareshan karte hai unhe waqt lagega 😂 SN me bache bigad jayenge kyunki Tulsi nhi hai yaha 😂

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Bache SN me bigad rahe hai isiliye vrinda unko boarding mein bhejna chahti hai 😂 timsy akeli ho jayegi usko koi nhi sambhalega coz vrinda aur pari ke bhi bacche hai 😢 bechari akeli pad jayegi

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