Jhanak Written Update And Episode Discussion thread No 87 - Page 60

Originally posted by: Dibya_C

Haan...even I also get the husband wife vibe from Runak...the way they stand by each other on each other's tough times...pure pati patni thing💕

And I hope fans keep expressing their disappointment and disapproval towards Anishit stuff and Runak not being united...only then something good can be expected...audience k Darr se hi she had to change Ani again from what she wanted him to be since aag track..this audience pressure only made her change the outcome of J's preggo track which to my belief would have been a MC otherwise ..

Am I the only one who thinks J is right for not giving in to Ani's rejection of Arshi and demand for J to go to him now?

We are all still concerned Ani will go back to Arshi on J's rejection. So is not J justified in thinking pushing Ani to Arshi will result in Ani Arshi living happily ever after eventually. Arshi did tell J that they have now physically consumated their relationship ont he day of Runak temple visit. And J knows BH will never accept her; which will make Ani's life and hers miserable anyways.

Ani himself said to Arshi - he thought with J dead, he did not want to dissolve AniArshi association, who did not want a kushaal jindagi and also that he was willing to put in the effort.

Even in yesterday's episode, Ani clearly said to Lal, he was only asking Arshi to go because she was unhappy - not because he wanted her to go. He then tells J - he does not want to be with Arshi. Ani's messaging is still not very clear. We know he only loves Jhanak; but he still wants Arshi to take the final decision to leave.

For Ani per the story so far - J is his love, but if he cant have J; Arshi will do. We can see what he will do next now J has refused him. If he does go back to Arshi; then isnt J 100% right in cutting him off from herself? Ani's messaging to BH is he is ok with Arshi staying at BH as his wife....achhi baat hai...he said if she stays. He is only asking her to leave if Arshi is upset; Arshi being a leech will never leave, so his repetetive asks for her to leave if she is unhappy will never happen.

Jhanak has been consistent in saying she will never break up Ani and Arshi didi. She plays hot and cold wrt her love for Ani and giving him encouragement - but from day 1 she has not changed her mind that she will not be the cause of Ani Arshi breakup. Ani is hoping she will give in when she realizes and is convinced he loves her. But this was never abt Runak for Jhanak. This is about not doing what Urvasi was accused of doing and Shristi did; her own values, and not looking bad in front of BH.

Till Arshi walks away on her own or Ani decides he will leave Arshi regardless of J's decision; this situation will not resolve. First does not seem to be imminent and till the second happens - I dont think J should consider a life with Ani. All it will get her is a miserable situation with BH.

Also we viewers are the ones upset with Arshi pregnancy idea. J seems to have made in her mind clear that Ani belongs to Arshi. From a story perspective - unless Leena brings Ani and J together in the short term the pregnancy angle will have no impact; because J anyway has refused to have anything to do with Ani - so Ani Arshi baby should not bother her - so where is the drama here?

Originally posted by: sanfan

Ani can tell anything to Jhanak…and Jhanak may do too… they’re in a stalemate situation unke beech ek strange understanding hain similar to hubby - wife… In anger you say things you don’t mean; in exasperation you do… they resolve it too…Last time also Ani said you will come to me next and woh hua..

Lol haan that is one weird thing about them that Leena also used for expediency as needed. Gusse mein kuch bhi bolke baad mein apni baat se palat jayenge. Ani atleast apologizes for things he said in anger but J never does and considers every word and action of hers justified🤷‍♀️😂.
They both just simply move on from the topic to give each other emotional loving looks jaise understood hai they didn’t really mean all the nasty stuff and pyar abhi bhi hai. Lol but yeah J definitely holds on to big grudges over his words that she brings out per her convenience to twist arguments.

Bottom line is that her arguments are all in bad faith. Ani is giving her his honest thought process right now about where his happiness lies and all she does is shame and guilt him in response to paint him a cheater not nibhaoing “legal” rishta with Arshi didi. Lol if her issue is really her lack of trust in Ani, she should come out and say that instead of lecturing him. Kal hi Arshi ko boli taali do haath se bajti hai but Ani ke saamne she puts all blame on him as if this love and these feelings are just his problem and not hers 🤷‍♀️🙄….she acts very ungrateful and hypocritical under the guise of supposedly lecturing him about propriety and “legal” rishte. lol

She is a coward who doesn’t have the guts to fight for love and gives priority to people who never wished well for her instead of the man who fought for her so many times.

Originally posted by: PPak

Am I the only one who thinks J is right for not giving in to Ani's rejection of Arshi and demand for J to go to him now?

We are all still concerned Ani will go back to Arshi on J's rejection. So is not J justified in thinking pushing Ani to Arshi will result in Ani Arshi living happily ever after eventually. Arshi did tell J that they have now physically consumated their relationship ont he day of Runak temple visit. And J knows BH will never accept her; which will make Ani's life and hers miserable anyways.

Ani himself said to Arshi - he thought with J dead, he did not want to dissolve AniArshi association, who did not want a kushaal jindagi and also that he was willing to put in the effort.

Even in yesterday's episode, Ani clearly said to Lal, he was only asking Arshi to go because she was unhappy - not because he wanted her to go. He then tells J - he does not want to be with Arshi. Ani's messaging is still not very clear. We know he only loves Jhanak; but he still wants Arshi to take the final decision to leave.

For Ani per the story so far - J is his love, but if he cant have J; Arshi will do. We can see what he will do next now J has refused him. If he does go back to Arshi; then isnt J 100% right in cutting him off from herself? Ani's messaging to BH is he is ok with Arshi staying at BH as his wife....achhi baat hai...he said if she stays. He is only asking her to leave if Arshi is upset; Arshi being a leech will never leave, so his repetetive asks for her to leave if she is unhappy will never happen.

Jhanak has been consistent in saying she will never break up Ani and Arshi didi. She plays hot and cold wrt her love for Ani and giving him encouragement - but from day 1 she has not changed her mind that she will not be the cause of Ani Arshi breakup. Ani is hoping she will give in when she realizes and is convinced he loves her. But this was never abt Runak for Jhanak. This is about not doing what Urvasi was accused of doing and Shristi did; her own values, and not looking bad in front of BH.

Till Arshi walks away on her own or Ani decides he will leave Arshi regardless of J's decision; this situation will not resolve. First does not seem to be imminent and till the second happens - I dont think J should consider a life with Ani. All it will get her is a miserable situation with BH.

Also we viewers are the ones upset with Arshi pregnancy idea. J seems to have made in her mind clear that Ani belongs to Arshi. From a story perspective - unless Leena brings Ani and J together in the short term the pregnancy angle will have no impact; because J anyway has refused to have anything to do with Ani - so Ani Arshi baby should not bother her - so where is the drama here?

Hi Priya…bold - First… I will address the last paragraph before the other aspects mentioned in this post. Maybe after I write this the need to address the other points may reduce or if it still remains I will surely respond.

Saying that J is ok with Ani spending a life with Arshi… you are making this assumption based on what she said to Ani…let’s accept for a moment you are right…Still there is no gainsaying she will necessarily accept that they are physically close… Jhanak hasn’t actually experienced the actual pain of Ani loving Arshi … or shall I say… it was very fleetingly felt by her on only a few occasions and largely she could make out that Ani was doing this to spite her… She has had the smug ( for want of a better word) knowledge that Ani loves her… for a long while. it has always given her some strange power in this equation.. it is my surmise that after Jhanak realised that Sirjee was in love with her she hasn’t ever felt threatened about the love Ani and Arshi share. The jealousy or feelings which she exhibits at the wedding is her disbelief that Ani would show his open affection for Arshi, and that too after their shared intimacy.. the dialogues at that stage were vague due to the intimacy being hidden from viewers but largely her mood was disbelief than actual jealousy. A moral dilemma that one faces is tested most when there is a competing emotion. When she was carrying the baby ( as per her) she didn’t lose a moment to reach out to Ani… yes her backstory provided that impetus but that paradigm shifted so what I am saying is a moral conflict doesn’t have a set paradigm in which it will break. The moral periphery is already set… it is the individual who has to take the decision which boundary to push for dealing with that moral dilemma. Or the periphery itself has to break. What I am getting at is Jhanak is secure in the knowledge that Ani and she are married and Ani will honour the relationship even while being married ( or staying in that whatever bond 😂to Arshi… I have nothing in the narrative to think that Jhanak has contemplated anything beyond this yet… when faced with the possibility is a new minefield 😂

Also I forgot to add… the reason she keeps throwing those I can change this or it’s my favour - is all about that power she feels she holds in this bond she shares with Ani

I will write on the other points but tomorrow… retiring for the night 😊

Don't have much experience with ITV... but is the level of inconsistency in Jhanak's storytelling worse than other shows? I understand the need for intrigue to maintain the drama quotient, but here it feels like every time characters take a step forward in their journey—it’s quickly undone, reverting the characters to past behaviors essentially dragging them ten steps back.

Originally posted by: sanfan

Hi Priya…bold - First… I will address the last paragraph before the other aspects mentioned in this post. Maybe after I write this the need to address the other points may reduce or if it still remains I will surely respond.

Saying that J is ok with Ani spending a life with Arshi… you are making this assumption based on what she said to Ani…let’s accept for a moment you are right…Still there is no gainsaying she will necessarily accept that they are physically close… Jhanak hasn’t actually experienced the actual pain of Ani loving Arshi … or shall I say… it was very fleetingly felt by her on only a few occasions and largely she could make out that Ani was doing this to spite her… She has had the smug ( for want of a better word) knowledge that Ani loves her… for a long while. it has always given her some strange power in this equation.. it is my surmise that after Jhanak realised that Sirjee was in love with her she hasn’t ever felt threatened about the love Ani and Arshi share. The jealousy or feelings which she exhibits at the wedding is her disbelief that Ani would show his open affection for Arshi, and that too after their shared intimacy.. the dialogues at that stage were vague due to the intimacy being hidden from viewers but largely her mood was disbelief than actual jealousy. A moral dilemma that one faces is tested most when there is a competing emotion. When she was carrying the baby ( as per her) she didn’t lose a moment to reach out to Ani… yes her backstory provided that impetus but that paradigm shifted so what I am saying is a moral conflict doesn’t have a set paradigm in which it will break. The moral periphery is already set… it is the individual who has to take the decision which boundary to push for dealing with that moral dilemma. Or the periphery itself has to break. What I am getting at is Jhanak is secure in the knowledge that Ani and she are married and Ani will honour the relationship even while being married ( or staying in that whatever bond 😂to Arshi… I have nothing in the narrative to think that Jhanak has contemplated anything beyond this yet… when faced with the possibility is a new minefield 😂

Also I forgot to add… the reason she keeps throwing those I can change this or it’s my favour - is all about that power she feels she holds in this bond she shares with Ani

I will write on the other points but tomorrow… retiring for the night 😊

I'll accept that she does have the comfort (and it shows - by the haughty way she claims she could have Sirji easily if she wanted and says Arshi is in her debt forever) of knowing he loves her.

However during Ani Arshi marriage I don't think it was her solace. During Ani Arshi marriage she comes to Calcutta with him initially because of her confidence of his love - but is slowly and surely convinced that wherever his "love" may lie - his relationship with Arshi is much stronger than expected and that its not an insignificant relationship. The pain of that realization is what made her overly sharp with her admonishment of him and his performance at that time. Remember during that phase - J was shown thinking - her pulling back gave Ani the ability to put aside his responsibility and sympathy for her and embrace his love for Arshi. Ani cemented that idea further with his ranting post Arshi aag incident and also his asking for J to lose for Arshi.

I feel J realized Ani's love for her during her preg claim period...weird as this sounds. Even though he was nasty to her at the time, one could tell that his reactions were so strong that she realized he was affected. If he did not love her he would have been indifferent to her. The whole scene where he says 'I hate you' you can tell how strong his emotions for her were then.

I feel while J now knows Ani loves her - she also understands he feels a deep responsibility for Arshi that will prevent him from fully stepping away from his ties to her. That along with his parents obsession over Arshi - is enough for J to keep away. Also now Arshi is no longer just the cousin - she is her sister.

Also one thing J said yesterday made sense. Even in the story - it is clear Ani has not moved on wrt J - but J has so much happening to her that her equation with Ani is only a part of what she is dealing with. He does not consume her mind.

If you think J is convinced Ani will never move forward with Arshi physically given his attachment to her (even after Arshi's sharing of their intimacy and Ani telling her every time he went close to Arshi - he imagined her) then her confidence in him is not justified right? Its good that she will get to experience the pain that will come with the sacrifice that she is choosing to make.

The way I interpreted the Ani Arshi scene, Arshi took advantage of Ani but Arshi made the case clearly that it was her he was making love to - even though she asked him to feel J through her. It is a big difference from her pretending to be J and deceiving him. Ani clearly has some culpability for this - given he put himself in a situation where he could be exploited thus; and there was no deception involved - it was more enticement by taking adv of his weakness for J.

For the preg track to be more effective - Leena should bring the 2 together to a stage where they beleive they may have a future together and then bring the pregnancy up. This would have the advantage of not making Ani look like a total jerk - which he will if he runs to Arshi now again.

Started to address one point and as always went longer.

Originally posted by: PPak

Am I the only one who thinks J is right for not giving in to Ani's rejection of Arshi and demand for J to go to him now?

Jhanak absolutely has the right to prioritize her own peace and not pursue a relationship with Ani. But as AY pointed out, it has to be made in good faith. Ani deserves a honest conversation, without manipulation by these two sisters. Denying Ani an honest conversation and withholding the truth about her true feelings is disrespecting his agency. Ani, like everyone in this situation, has the right to make informed decisions about his life and relationships based on the full truth. When Jhanak insists that Ani stay with Arshi while hiding her true feelings, it implies that she doesn't trust Ani to handle the truth or to make his own decisions in a fair and thoughtful manner. It’s unfair to Ani, who deserves the respect of being treated as an adult capable of navigating his emotions.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Lol achha Ani ne technically abhi tak flip nahin maara to go back to performance mode with Arshi but aapne waise hi assume kar liya? 😂😂

I haven’t watched the BTS clip. So they only showed him angry with Jhanak ke rejections and said fine I don’t need your love either? lol this just sounds like a random childish fight. Not sure he will be able to flip back to performance mode with Arshi so easily in the middle of this case if he’s still maintaining his sach ka saath dunga bhaashans 😂….maybe will just be a few epis of him being a grouchy bear and backing off from approaching Jhanak directly 🤷‍♀️😂

I hope aisa hi ho...my assumption is proven wrong ..

Originally posted by: PPak

Am I the only one who thinks J is right for not giving in to Ani's rejection of Arshi and demand for J to go to him now?

We are all still concerned Ani will go back to Arshi on J's rejection. So is not J justified in thinking pushing Ani to Arshi will result in Ani Arshi living happily ever after eventually. Arshi did tell J that they have now physically consumated their relationship ont he day of Runak temple visit. And J knows BH will never accept her; which will make Ani's life and hers miserable anyways.

Ani himself said to Arshi - he thought with J dead, he did not want to dissolve AniArshi association, who did not want a kushaal jindagi and also that he was willing to put in the effort.

Even in yesterday's episode, Ani clearly said to Lal, he was only asking Arshi to go because she was unhappy - not because he wanted her to go. He then tells J - he does not want to be with Arshi. Ani's messaging is still not very clear. We know he only loves Jhanak; but he still wants Arshi to take the final decision to leave.

For Ani per the story so far - J is his love, but if he cant have J; Arshi will do. We can see what he will do next now J has refused him. If he does go back to Arshi; then isnt J 100% right in cutting him off from herself? Ani's messaging to BH is he is ok with Arshi staying at BH as his wife....achhi baat hai...he said if she stays. He is only asking her to leave if Arshi is upset; Arshi being a leech will never leave, so his repetetive asks for her to leave if she is unhappy will never happen.

Jhanak has been consistent in saying she will never break up Ani and Arshi didi. She plays hot and cold wrt her love for Ani and giving him encouragement - but from day 1 she has not changed her mind that she will not be the cause of Ani Arshi breakup. Ani is hoping she will give in when she realizes and is convinced he loves her. But this was never abt Runak for Jhanak. This is about not doing what Urvasi was accused of doing and Shristi did; her own values, and not looking bad in front of BH.

Till Arshi walks away on her own or Ani decides he will leave Arshi regardless of J's decision; this situation will not resolve. First does not seem to be imminent and till the second happens - I dont think J should consider a life with Ani. All it will get her is a miserable situation with BH.

Also we viewers are the ones upset with Arshi pregnancy idea. J seems to have made in her mind clear that Ani belongs to Arshi. From a story perspective - unless Leena brings Ani and J together in the short term the pregnancy angle will have no impact; because J anyway has refused to have anything to do with Ani - so Ani Arshi baby should not bother her - so where is the drama here?

It's Jhanak’s fight for her love.....time lagega but definitely she'll free himself from Arshi.

Phly kabhi taunts nhi karti thi Arshi but now her tone has been changed completely after gaining a much-needed confidence.

Originally posted by: Alter_Eg0

Jhanak absolutely has the right to prioritize her own peace and not pursue a relationship with Ani. But as AY pointed out, it has to be made in good faith. Ani deserves a honest conversation, without manipulation by these two sisters. Denying Ani an honest conversation and withholding the truth about her true feelings is disrespecting his agency. Ani, like everyone in this situation, has the right to make informed decisions about his life and relationships based on the full truth. When Jhanak insists that Ani stay with Arshi while hiding her true feelings, it implies that she doesn't trust Ani to handle the truth or to make his own decisions in a fair and thoughtful manner. It’s unfair to Ani, who deserves the respect of being treated as an adult capable of navigating his emotions.

Bang on! You explained it really well..❣️

I really hated it when in tumor track makers gave J the monologue main janti hu aap mujhe Dil de chuke hai...entire rejection of her was proven pointless..at that point she should have really felt betrayed and not like I know you love me..

.. similarly, since makers have shown that Arshi claimed that Anishit has developed intimacy recently, J should have felt betrayed and rejected Anirudh's advances on grounds of mistrust and not because Arshi didi aapse pyar karti hai...the entire storyline is now illogical and focussed on stretching of episodes...

..I said it earlier also, unless Ani gets rid of Arshi completely first, J will not accept him..in fact even after freeing himself from Arshi, he has to do some real convincing that J should return to her ..

But as I said...to increase episode count, makers will never focus on showing the characters taking right steps at that moment..Anirudh should free himself from Arshi if he thinks he loves J, J or no J by his side..J should own her feelings and only express the truth or forget her feelings from the bottom of her heart and stick to her statement Sirjee aap Arshi didi ke sath hai... Arshi should stick to her evil avatar manipulating both Ani and J to ensure they remain separated and prop up her game of revenge as this is the right time..

Originally posted by: PPak

Am I the only one who thinks J is right for not giving in to Ani's rejection of Arshi and demand for J to go to him now?

We are all still concerned Ani will go back to Arshi on J's rejection. So is not J justified in thinking pushing Ani to Arshi will result in Ani Arshi living happily ever after eventually. Arshi did tell J that they have now physically consumated their relationship ont he day of Runak temple visit. And J knows BH will never accept her; which will make Ani's life and hers miserable anyways.

Ani himself said to Arshi - he thought with J dead, he did not want to dissolve AniArshi association, who did not want a kushaal jindagi and also that he was willing to put in the effort.

Even in yesterday's episode, Ani clearly said to Lal, he was only asking Arshi to go because she was unhappy - not because he wanted her to go. He then tells J - he does not want to be with Arshi. Ani's messaging is still not very clear. We know he only loves Jhanak; but he still wants Arshi to take the final decision to leave.

For Ani per the story so far - J is his love, but if he cant have J; Arshi will do. We can see what he will do next now J has refused him. If he does go back to Arshi; then isnt J 100% right in cutting him off from herself? Ani's messaging to BH is he is ok with Arshi staying at BH as his wife....achhi baat hai...he said if she stays. He is only asking her to leave if Arshi is upset; Arshi being a leech will never leave, so his repetetive asks for her to leave if she is unhappy will never happen.

Jhanak has been consistent in saying she will never break up Ani and Arshi didi. She plays hot and cold wrt her love for Ani and giving him encouragement - but from day 1 she has not changed her mind that she will not be the cause of Ani Arshi breakup. Ani is hoping she will give in when she realizes and is convinced he loves her. But this was never abt Runak for Jhanak. This is about not doing what Urvasi was accused of doing and Shristi did; her own values, and not looking bad in front of BH.

Till Arshi walks away on her own or Ani decides he will leave Arshi regardless of J's decision; this situation will not resolve. First does not seem to be imminent and till the second happens - I dont think J should consider a life with Ani. All it will get her is a miserable situation with BH.

Also we viewers are the ones upset with Arshi pregnancy idea. J seems to have made in her mind clear that Ani belongs to Arshi. From a story perspective - unless Leena brings Ani and J together in the short term the pregnancy angle will have no impact; because J anyway has refused to have anything to do with Ani - so Ani Arshi baby should not bother her - so where is the drama here?

There's no drama now! And Leena is not understanding that! She thinks that by bringing in Anishit baby topic and at the same time showing J remaining unattached to this development will create drama...well she is an idiot then..and she will learn it soon.