GHKPM WRITTEN UPDATES & EPISODE DISCUSSION # 133 - Page 56

Originally posted by: Sukorameni

What have I conveniently forgotten .I have pretty much Replied to every response of yours .You had very clearly highlighted how I was a beginner and did not get my facts correct so I pretty much responded why I wasn't and honestly if this would have been so problematic then there would have been protests across everywhere and probably even fir filed that the moral sentiments of some person/community is hurt .But as far as I remember nothing like that happened .I remember there was a fir filed during ghum 1 during surrogacy and pehradar Piya ki was taken off air because it had clearly hurt social sentiments and don't get me started on how fluidic things like sexuality was in India and things that were accepted in this country just a 1000 years would ,today will probably break people's head .That's why I said how things regarding morality has changed in this country in the last 2000 years.There is a controversy and fir filed in this country every minute for hurting religious and social sentiments and if the teacher student thing would have been so bothersome to society clearly there would have some response from somewhere . Hence I have not ignored anything I pretty much responded to .You might consider something ethical and others might disagree .And it's not about Making something look cool .When two consenting adults are in a relationship who happen to be teacher and student , honestly it's their personal choice .

Read para 2 of my reply to yours on pg.51, regarding why people would have been late in expressing their displeasure & disapproval.

I have written both sides of story in short & still there are several detailed sides to it, but I didn't elaborate that point more, in an online argument.

As a precaution, I clearly mentioned in the brackets too, regarding which specific bit I was talking about & not implying the whole conversation. But you didn’t see that surely, and still needed elaboration. Precautionary note must be read , to know better about the context

Oh gosh! I have to explain it like a kid, even after mentioning it in brackets

A significantly huge chunk of people, don’t watch ITV at all, or don’t watch ITV anymore, or have shifted to other platforms for entertainment, they’re clueless about the mindless happenings, so they care less about ITV to engage in protests. Also, majority members of Ghum forum left post S1’s ending. Anyways, maximum people know what ITV is capable of, so they expect no better, they don’t invest their energy in protesting against ITV any more, until they've crossed all the limits

Hence, it’s not right to conclude anything about this topic, with a small sample survey size of IF members & twitteratis. We still can’t be sure about majority’s opinion

Just because I shared a different opinion than the majority in IF, do I deserve being grilled & should the matter be stretched like a rubber band. And, do I need to give AGNIPARIKSHA for my statements & clarify to this extent ?? as if it’s a court proceeding going on.

I kindly request you to not stretch it anymore, and let’s respectfully agree to disagree. To each its own. PEACE, please

Originally posted by: Rosh4rose

I guess TRP going to dwindle some more

Just wait and watch the fun 😁...If TRP goes down what would they do!

They could have done well with Ishan , Savi and Isha track ...Like Ishan could have been the " mentor" and later once Savi become IAS they love starting flourish...As Ishan Dean of Universirty and Savi as a IAS officer afet marriage they could have been facing some troubles ahead ...They brought back Reeva destroyed evety thing.

Now they could still show Rajat coming to know about Savi's past and encourages her to try for IAS again 🙄 his family opposing it .Still Savi becomes IAS and facing trouble in relationship like an insecure Rajat kind if things . Any ways I have no hopes from thus PH they might loose even the 6th place at TRP

@bold- Yeah, it would be a popcorn-worthy drama. I’ll grab my popcorn tube to watch their tomfoolery , once things don’t go their desirable route.🤭

@Red:- Obviously, there was a scope of improvement in each of their seasons 1, 2 & 2.5 , could have rectified certain crucial aspects & implemented so many creative ideas & resurrected all 3 seasons, there were plethora of ideas , but it’s all upto the makers to read the psyche of audience & adapt with the changing times, and if they don’t budge, then their survival is tough…
Darwin’s theory comes into picture- “Survival of the fittest”

Nowadays, UPSC & academic based web-series& movies, are a massive hit, these tracks grabbing eyeballs & are much loved on OTT, even ITV audience was glued to it, but only when it’s done right. Ghum faltered midway

@blue:- If they wish to, there’s still full scope of reintroducing it in S2.5- by going down the routes of DABH or Sooryavansham etc.

Originally posted by: Nush_Rat

In my opinion, the only way the makers can salvage this show is by moving away from YHM and start using their brains.

Of course they are gonna infuse only toxicity but even with that, if they can reintroduce Savi's fierce nature - even some of the old viewers might return who left post Ghum 2.

YHM was undoubtedly a good show at the beginning. But their sensitive topic doesn't match with Savi's core nature at all. Fine, life knocked her up with Ishan's death and I truly wish not just her but others also get a shot at real happiness with a caring husband and a loving child.

But the focus should be on that - her journey, along with Rajat and Sai as they navigate the unconventional path.

Shagun was classy and Anita played it like a boss. But every YHM fans knows Ekta's stubbornness to keep Shagun in the show was one of the prime reasons the show got derailed.

On the contrary, Kaveri Priyam is a good actress, has played leads in other shows and given Ashka's role, I doubt she'll continue for a long time if the character doesn't challenge her enough. Hell, she left DDG when the story derailed and there she was a lead. No way she's gonna stick to Ghum forever if the writers don't provide her enough character growth.

Hence they really need to think about their plan and stop copying YHM because ultimately it won't help their cause.

@bold:- Indeed, blatantly copying & not doing needful deviation is never a good idea, when the background of both shows &characterization of the two characters were totally different. It disconnects the audience very badly. They can surely take inspiration, but making it a verbatim copy of the OG kills all the suspense & thrill factor. Hence, makes the story absurd & inconsistent, there’s nothing to look forward to, since the story is known to many.

It’s all predictable, & the spoiler of the show is everywhere too, whereas story of a drama should be unpredictable & should keep us always hooked. A remake with significant changes & needful deviation makes it look like a fresh story& a better experience.

Before remaking, it is even more important to read the mood , psyche of their mass audience whether they look forward to watching the kind of genre of OG has & they should do a quick analysis of their response & gauge the disappointment / excitement level of legacy & loyal viewers before doing drastic makeover. It's needful, but they won’t.

@red:- I earnestly pray for this. Wishing them love & light, always.🙏🏻🌻

@blue:- I second this, Savi's confidence,fierceness & savagery should be brought back, her OTT mahaanta & silence should be shred off. Her passiveness & silence is pricking in some situation, but God knows when will makers understand this , seems like never, becz this PH has taken license of producing remakes, & rehashing old shows

@purple:- Undoubtedly,,Anita is an amazing actor & played it very elegantly. But, Ekta’s favoritism in YHM was a very obvious & bothering one. Known to all. One of the prime reasons, why YHM got derailed later.

Originally posted by: kuttapu

Today’s episode was full of Savi and Rajat moments..but looks like Ganja ph again cut some scenes they shot. I saw on YT that there were scenes of Savi waking Rajat up and him not getting up from bed as he is scared. Today’s episode directly showed them at breakfast table 🙄🙄

Btw..Rajat is quite chalu 😝 He made noodles for Savi, but got only one bowl for both of them 😁😁. If he can make noodles, he can find 2 containers 😄, but he wanted to share the bowl with wife looks like😁

As usual, Ganja PH nahi sudhrenge, apne aadaton se baaj nahi aane wale.

Ghum PH be like- kya karoon main audience, main hun AADAT SE MAJBOOR😂

They’re obsessed with blasts, body doubles & chopping off…. Never forget, obsessed with remakes too.

Aise hi nahi inhe , Ganja PH kaha jaata…their source is very strong 🤭& chop-chop skills lajawaab👌🏻

Ye nahi sudharne wale, they’re too dheet for that

Originally posted by: kuttapu

Today’s episode was full of Savi and Rajat moments..but looks like Ganja ph again cut some scenes they shot. I saw on YT that there were scenes of Savi waking Rajat up and him not getting up from bed as he is scared. Today’s episode directly showed them at breakfast table 🙄🙄

Btw..Rajat is quite chalu 😝 He made noodles for Savi, but got only one bowl for both of them 😁😁. If he can make noodles, he can find 2 containers 😄, but he wanted to share the bowl with wife looks like😁

Ok

Then I will watch later thanks for the update

Hello there!

I'm really sorry for my late reply. Got held up at work but I wanted to reply to you properly as I really enjoyed your analysis.

I think they should go on like,(Just my opinion)

Savi- Rajat becoming friends, Rajat falling in love with Savi while Savi being oblivious to his feelings, Kiyaan and Rajat's relationship getting normal while he is coming terms to that Savi is Rajat's wife not his mother's enemy.... After that deviate the storyline, showing Rajat getting to know about Savi's past helping her to heal and get back on track (I mean her IAS dream)....

Couldn't agree more. Creatives get inspiration from others' work all the time and then incorporate their own ideas which adds a fresh flavor. Just because they are following YHM, it doesn't mean they have to copy scene by scene and keep the negativity intact. One of my biggest issues with YHM has always been Raman's unhealthy obsession with Adi. There was a Bengali remake of YHM. Although it wasn't that good acting wise, they actually didn't force the FL's motherhood on the ML's boy and eventually he realized the error of his ways and reunited with his family. I would very much want such deviation in Ghum.

I know many people have complain with savi giving up on her IAS dream. But I will give it to her. She has lost so many loved ones in her life and everyone has a breaking point. In my view, witnessing ishaan's murder infront of her eyes was savi's breaking point. Somewhere savi is holding herself responsible for ishaan's death and is not able to come out of that guilt. She is afraid to lose any of her loved ones again. Makers have not touched this topic properly. I still have a tiny hope seeing them reminding savi's past time to time, be it sai (her mother) or ishaan...Lets see...

Savi is not ishita...Giving attention to Savi's past and her dream is a must...They should copy only to a bearable extent...If not show will go downhill and no one can save the show...

Again, totally agree. I'm not disregarding young Savi's trauma. Poor girl saw her parents die in a horrific crime scene. Nonetheless, SaiRat died as heroes and Savi kept that spirit alive through her dream of becoming an IAS officer.

However, she lost her entire family because of a criminal. And then Ishan was murdered by none other than a police officer who wounded him brutally right before her eyes. At the end of the day, Savi too is a human being. What wouldn't I give if they shed light on this aspect and explained how Ishan's death has deeply affected her. I remember during SaRaj's engagement, Isha put a condition that Savi should be given the chance to study further and fulfill her dream of becoming an IAS officer. Savi was visibly sad at that time.

I want SaRaj's relation to progress to the point where Rajat enquires about her past and help her achieve her dream. I had told this earlier also, in YHM, Raman was the more traumatized one. So Ishita had to be his strength. However, in case of SaRaj, Savi is the worse sufferer. Additionally, they can show Rajat's helplessness as he continues to fall in love because unlike Ashka, Ishan was a good person and one can't really compete with someone who isn't even alive. They should focus on Rajat's helplessness/jealousy than showing Savi to be affected by Ashka's words who is nothing but an idiot.

Finally an episode dedicated to SaRaj and I enjoyed it thoroughly...

I'm not sure what exactly was going on inside the makers' mind but today I was a bit perplexed as there were several things that could be interpreted in different ways...

Indirectly, Savi admitted that she didn't like Rajat giving too much importance to Ashka. On one hand, I can think of it as the common disease of ITV FL where they have to show Mahanta to everyone. But I want to believe that it's more than just Mahanta. She wants Rajat's connection to end with his ex, where her presence or absence doesn't elicit any type of reaction from him.

Also, Rajat was clearly feeling guilty and I loved it when he said, Kiaan and Savi have separate places in his life. It's a huge statement if someone looks deeper. I know I'm expecting too much from Ganja makers but I REALLY REALLY REALLY want Rajat to clarify this to Kiaan ASAP so that the annoying little brat understands he can't get away with everything.

In OG Raman did it but after a lot of chaos. I don't want Rajat to repeat the same mistake here.

And I loved their little date. I commented earlier as well that Hitesh's portrayal of a father is much more mature, at the same time, he brings a certain amount of innocence that makes Rajat more lovable. The entire time while he was preparing noodles was too cute.

Another thing I noticed was Savi was happy but Rajat looked more affected by her presence. I'm glad they didn't make Savi react OTT when Rajat feigned a finger cut. She was also very restrained in her reaction when Rajat told her to accompany him to the doctor. There was happiness minus the NIBBI vibe.

I really want Rajat to fall first and see Savi's dilemma as she might feel guilty for moving on from Ishan. That would make an interesting plot for the future.

Another amazing episode!

Loved the SaRaj scenes in the first half. I was a bit disheartened earlier, thinking they might have chopped the lifting scene buy my goodness! They actually turned it into something romantic!

What are Ganja makers smoking this days!

Both Saavi and Rajat enjoyed it equally - it was written all over their faces. Specially Rajat's smile when he realized Savi was faking her annoyance.

I also liked the way they incorporated the rushing scene. It made more sense to me; also the way Savi was teasing Rajat was simply... Girl is really enjoying the guy's attention.

And when she mimicked him...

Season 2 viewers, please tell me this was something Savi used to do earlier as well - makers must remember how she was originally.

The second half was quite emotional. I think the dialogue writer did a good job of the way Rajat described a father's love for his son and daughter.

Today, Hitesh owned his scenes with Kiaan. His helplessness and embarrassment before Savi were really heartbreaking. The only good thing is that Savi understands him better now, and she tries to control the damage. I liked how she tried to change the topic by saying kids can behave like that sometimes.

While I'm happy with the way it's progressing, I feel dreadful thinking how they are gonna increase the toxicity 100 folds when Rajat will decide to help Ashka.

Originally posted by: Nush_Rat

Another amazing episode!

Loved the SaRaj scenes in the first half. I was a bit disheartened earlier, thinking they might have chopped the lifting scene buy my goodness! They actually turned it into something romantic!

What are Ganja makers smoking this days!

Both Saavi and Rajat enjoyed it equally - it was written all over their faces. Specially Rajat's smile when he realized Savi was faking her annoyance.

I also liked the way they incorporated the rushing scene. It made more sense to me; also the way Savi was teasing Rajat was simply... Girl is really enjoying the guy's attention.

And when she mimicked him...

Season 2 viewers, please tell me this was something Savi used to do earlier as well - makers must remember how she was originally.

The second half was quite emotional. I think the dialogue writer did a good job of the way Rajat described a father's love for his son and daughter.

Today, Hitesh owned his scenes with Kiaan. His helplessness and embarrassment before Savi were really heartbreaking. The only good thing is that Savi understands him better now, and she tries to control the damage. I liked how she tried to change the topic by saying kids can behave like that sometimes.

While I'm happy with the way it's progressing, I feel dreadful thinking how they are gonna increase the toxicity 100 folds when Rajat will decide to help Ashka.

Looks like good episode but I can't tolerate that brat Kiaan on screen ....letvme check it out I read IF article

Originally posted by: Rosh4rose

Looks like good episode but I can't tolerate that brat Kiaan on screen ....letvme check it out I read IF article

No one can dear. I look in some other direction when he's on screen.