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Originally posted by: PPak

idiots right?

Ani is trying to say the marriage is nakli partially because he does not anyone to get the idea to nullify his first real wedding

Idiots dont know their manipulative son well.

Today best dialog was bodoma saying she values Ani more than Lal.

Choton should have been Ani's dad.. he catches him well.. Manipulative combo in family

How will they know when they are so invested in sasti celebrities

Where do you live Priya?

For me "his haq" dialogue in his SR dream was the best as it clarified a lot of why he is, the way he is, with J. Plus the dialogue "par kya hum dono ke dil ne yeh mana?" ki yeh shaadi nakli hai !

Bold - Dude just got a earful from wifey on how 'bura' he has been just 2 epi s back

With regards to J, this is what I think, and I of course stand to be corrected, but I did not think she was physically uncomfortable with Ani's hug.

She was overwhelmed yes by the suddenness of it and she was worried , possibly guilt ridden with 'yeh galat hai' , simply coz this is Arshi didi's hone wala husband !

If you take the Arshi baggage off her mind, she would hug him back like there is no tomorrow coz beneath all the layers of facades, there is deep love in her heart for him !

Which is why she eventually gives in and hugs him back !

Originally posted by: PPak

Thanks for the tag Sohini.

100% agree with all you have writtem. I can see it.

Its likely one of my fav episodes to date. So different from other shows and well done...

And I could likely be way off base with the way I took it. Mine is just a plausible counter view. By the responses I can see it is an unpopular view

For me the physical attraction or the need to indulge is not a bad thing or a sign of disrespect, more so because they are a married couple, and tho he did coerce he did not force.Like emotional need a physical need is equally permissible in a marriage as long as there is consent and she did eventually put her arms around him. Like you said if at all they implied it - I would be happy because then ITV is def coming of age.

The way I saw it the part before SR is exactly as you portrayed. Little boy craving comfort, attention, love, security. Very scared of losing J and wanting to hold on to her. Post their hug and SR is when I felt the tone changed...everything bgm pulse urgency his plain annoyance at her saying ye sahi nahi hai and pushing him off, his response... J kya sahi hai our kya nahi hum baadh me discuss karenge...does that not sound like a need for emotional connect?.Usually emotional connect is calmer gentler. But - I could be reading too much into it. Also his answer to sindoor question was haq. Somehow today when he showed his annoyance I felt he was drawing out the haq card.

When J says - alawys mannmaani karne hai kya... he says

Mai ziddi hun and my bahut bura aadmi hoon, sirf tumhare liye, Jhanak mai tumhe kahi nahi jaane duunga.

For me this kind of meant, he is a very good upstanding person - except when it comes to her, he can do anything to keep her. Bura is an interesting choice of word here. what bura has he ever done to her than detain her in BH?

I dont think he did anything wrong, J says today why did i give in....will she really be wondering why she hugged Ani?

Sorry if this response is disjointed . Writing theories regarding tv shows at 1am

This forum is so pleasant and has so many povs that I enjoy spending time here, and seeing diff interpretations of the same episode. I dont know whether to say kudos to the makers for their ability to draw this kind of enagement or blame them for sloppy writing that in unclear and keeps everyone guessing what is going on

I'm not saying he has been dying to be physical with her and planned intentionally to seduce her. To date he has never touched her inappropriately.

I'm saying we know he has a strong physical attraction for her as witnessed during the hut scene and maybe just maybe the hug and the SR dream brought all his physical needs out at this time and he felt completely at ease with it bcos J is his wife. Remember he always recollects that they are married when he is physically close to her (bday as well uska man thaa). I thought the part before the hug was all real - the confusion the shivers etc. ...and the part after the dream a bit contrived and manipulative.

Like I said just how it seemed to me.

Originally posted by: MayaFruitbae

Yes , strongly agree with you ,Vira.

Anirudh is always shown as a practical man , but he is also a very emotional person. He is a man who cries , and teary one when it comes to sadness . Which I believe only a pure hearted man can !!!

He comes across as a man who needs immense support from the ones whom he loves ...unfortunately he is deprived of that.

He needs validation and attention .Jhanak has always given him that attention by calling him her Bagwan .

Be his mom , his gf doesnt provide him emotional support ,they don't understand his feelings , they take him to a strong person who can handle everything on his own.They dont know who Anirudh is .

The feeling to get pampered when sick , the urge to be with the one whom he loves so much , the thought this might be the last time I can spent with Jhanak , there is a storm in his mind ...

He wanted to express it all. He was mentally broken with her words and than fever . He knows he isn't going to die of fever within hours!!! . The I will die ,I dont want to live , this is my last night is expressing his fear of Jhanak leaving him . Its not at all about his fever that would kill him . Its the thought of losing her when it dawns .

Her exams are over he has to go back, he doesnt have any reason to be round ..and knowing how much hurt she is , he feeling disturbed .

Many a times Jhanak as said she feels unsafe ,characterless and all,but did she really me it ..99% not .It was to push him away ( we discussed it n times the shadis in the show .)

Other than that anirudh has always been a gentle man .Not even his eyes had wrong intentions when he was with Jhanak alone . I dont understand what gives the feel that Anirudh is longing to have physical or he is desperate to sleep with her .He has taken care of her when ahe was unconscious , sleeping , he didnt even rouch her back then. Even if he belived she loved Rahul , he could have touched her if he was that desperate to be physical with her.

There were numerous times when they were alone , he never ever touched her inappropriate . Having shown his inner thought that he always felt right on her like a husband , he could have easily forced himself on her with his word play.

The makers have left it open , so that they can use it as and when required for the story about last night .

Why i think J will do something about the wedding is because she might see him unhappy, see he is sacrificing his happiness, might be also she realizes she cant be without him as well and their marriage is real and important to her ... plus doing this will give some much-needed strength to J's character. The stupidest thing she says so far in the show is nakali shadi, not giving her own marriage any respect. She needs to respect it and accept it in front of the world. What basus and Arshi shrsit are afraid of is also if J realizes it and asks for her right , they wont be able to do anything about it.

It is a latakati talvar for them right now! Ani can say all he wants, J is my wife but unless J accepts it too, his plan wont be successful. Holding J hostage in his house bases on their wedding won't last for much longer. Everyone will start scheming so they get divorced...

Just a wild guess at this point... we dont know what will happen! But based on promo J is stopping it and I want her to stop it! Grow up J!

Originally posted by: PPak

i think next track is her understanding of what Ani feels regarding Arshi. She already got hints with farz word, the way he answered Arshi's call, saying you want Arshi happy i'll keep her happy.

But knowing J even if she realizes she wont stop the wedding because BH will crucify her. Ani stopping the wedding makes sense as he is the idiot making the choice in the first place.

If J asks him to jump off a cliff should he be doing it?

Originally posted by: PPak

i think next track is her understanding of what Ani feels regarding Arshi. She already got hints with farz word, the way he answered Arshi's call, saying you want Arshi happy i'll keep her happy.

But knowing J even if she realizes she wont stop the wedding because BH will crucify her. Ani stopping the wedding makes sense as he is the idiot making the choice in the first place.

If J asks him to jump off a cliff should he be doing it?

That alone he won’t be able to fulfill! How else will he see her happy successful and independent even from a distance if he dies🥹🥲

thinking we all come in the category of Arshi is such a bad realization haha !

i cant live like this!!

Originally posted by: Sampada_14

If it's About his Screaming, screeching princess we can be that bad nah... For the Screaming princess

Originally posted by: vira76

Why i think J will do something about the wedding is because she might see him unhappy, see he is sacrificing his happiness, might be also she realizes she cant be without him as well and their marriage is real and important to her ... plus doing this will give some much-needed strength to J's character. The stupidest thing she says so far in the show is nakali shadi, not giving her own marriage any respect. She needs to respect it and accept it in front of the world. What basus and Arshi shrsit are afraid of is also if J realizes it and asks for her right , they wont be able to do anything about it.

It is a latakati talvar for them right now! Ani can say all he wants, J is my wife but unless J accepts it too, his plan wont be successful. Holding J hostage in his house bases on their wedding won't last for much longer. Everyone will start scheming so they get divorced...

Just a wild guess at this point... we dont know what will happen! But based on promo J is stopping it and I want her to stop it! Grow up J!

I mentioned it before these two episodes aired! It has to do with her now! Ani may take a back seat for the time being

It will have to be a reason related to her Sirji, for her to take a step like that !

Sacrificial diva will never stand up for her happiness and her love - would love if she did though !

J's overt sense of 'right' is killing RuNak at the moment, thankfully Ani's sense of right doesn't match hers, nehi toh dono righteousness ki murat hote, toh naiyya ab tak dub chuki hoti

Originally posted by: vira76

Why i think J will do something about the wedding is because she might see him unhappy, see he is sacrificing his happiness, might be also she realizes she cant be without him as well and their marriage is real and important to her ... plus doing this will give some much-needed strength to J's character. The stupidest thing she says so far in the show is nakali shadi, not giving her own marriage any respect. She needs to respect it and accept it in front of the world. What basus and Arshi shrsit are afraid of is also if J realizes it and asks for her right , they wont be able to do anything about it.

It is a latakati talvar for them right now! Ani can say all he wants, J is my wife but unless J accepts it too, his plan wont be successful. Holding J hostage in his house bases on their wedding won't last for much longer. Everyone will start scheming so they get divorced...

Just a wild guess at this point... we dont know what will happen! But based on promo J is stopping it and I want her to stop it! Grow up J!

Originally posted by: vira76

My thoughts on the episode: There was not much that transpired today so not much to write but one thing is for sure... the equation has changed between Jhanak and Anirudh after his confession.

First and foremost... Anirudh remembers his confession very well.

Ani: agar tum hoti to samaz jati... you care for me much more than Arshi cares for me

Ani: main tumhe gale laga kar so gaya, tumhe bura to nahi laga na... He was feeling guilty and embarrassed about how be forced a hug on Jhanak, thinking it might have made Jhanak uncomfortable. Mentioning it was a decent thing to do. The last thing he wants to do is chase her away and act like a creep. His sole motto right now is to make sure Jhanak returns with him to Kolkata. This is Ani we are talking about. He does not think further in the future. Its one step at a time always.

Jhanak: Aapako bukhar tha sirf iss liye aap muze gale laga kar soye the? .... Jhanak is wanting more clarification. I guess for her the why is more important naturally. She loves him and hugging him will not make her uncomfortable, but why he is hugging her is what is more important to her. She thinks Ani was talking crazy last night. It was a moment of emotional outburst but not his forever feelings. Is this love or just fear of not being able to see her who has become part of her life? Like when you feel sad when your best friend or some close relative is going away forever...

Jhanak: Kuch dino me sangeet hai.... typical Jhanank, not speaking her mind or asking questions but just putting up a wall

Anirudh says his heart is divided into two parts and he does not understand what he wants to do.

This is nothing new for me. After last night's outburst, it is clear to him, he cannot live without Jhanak but Jhanak wants him to marry Arshi. She reminds him of that commitment he has made to some other woman every step of the way. He does not know what wrong or right thing to do at this point.

If he decides to not marry Arshi, will Jhanak think less of him and will she leave him, his family is also there whom he loves dearly...

If he decides to marry Arshi, he will be miserable for the rest of his life & hopes of being with Jhanak will shatter...

Jhanak does not love him back. He can't make her love him back or force a marriage on her that is not her choice. And he knows how much she hates to live in Bose's house. Its a dilemma, tearing him in two pieces. What he does know is that he wants Jhanak to be in his life, and does not want to lose her.

Again one step at a time ...

Ani: Please kabhi mera sath mat chodana. Baki sab mai sambhal loonga... hamesha mere sath rehana..

puze pata hai Jhanak mai thoda sa matlabi ban raha hoon...

Jab tum mere pas rehati ho, to muze bohot accha mehasoos hota hai. Please kahi gayab mat ho jana.

Ani's top concern right now is Jhanak not being in his life. He is scared to death about losing her forever and never able to see her again. It will be like his lifeline being taken away from him. If marrying Arshi is what he has to do to ensure she feels comfortable sticking around he is ready to do that.

This is called pyaar me shahid hona... being a martyr in love! Is this stupid, right or wrong?... it does not matter. This is what his love is. It can go to this extent!

There is clearly a lot going on in Ani's mind right now. His sudden outburst, his wedding, his family's reaction, making sure Jhanak does not leave him.. there are too many things happening around him. He has not made a decision yet on what he will do, or how he will do it.

Jhanak: aap apana farz nibhayenge... Arshi didi ke sath meri aankho ke samane khush rahenge... lekin aapako unake sath dekh kar main to oodas nahi hongi na... kal raat ke baad bohot kuch badal chuka hai... maine kyu nahi khud ko aap ko...

This was a small monologue but it tells me for Jhanak the way she looks at their relationship has changed. She is questioning herself for hugging him back, for not stopping him... did that feel good? Is my resolve to stay away from Ani and Arshi's marriage breaking? Am I happy about their wedding? Something else is waking up in her... that she feels quite scared to face

Ani: tum chahati ho na, main arshi ke sath khush rahoo, apane har ek farz nibhaoonga.. these words reflected a lot of pain for me... the way krushal said it... it was heartbreaking

Ani: Thank god muze bukhar hua, tum mere pas rahi aur me chain ki need so paya...

Jhanak: (runs away...)

Anirudh's expressing his love here, and how he enjoyed their intimate moments was like showing a mirror to Jhanak. Anirudh is still under the impression that Jhanak feels weirded out about last night. But for Jhanak who loves him, this night also meant a lot as well.

The question is after what happened between them, what was said, what was done, what was shared... will they be able to follow the path they have determined for themselves?

....

Only if love was that simple... 😌

Let's trust their love and have faith in their journey...

Their scene was short but your detailed analysis was like a rain in the desert. I liked few dialogues, but ill mention only one that stood out for me:

“Thank God mujhe Bukhar howa, tum mere paas rahe aur main chein ki nend so paya”

He didn’t hesitate telling her how grateful he was for the night. And as he tried to express his feelings again, he was looking at Jhanak and observing her carefully if she felt any different. I think Anirudh does notice Jhanak’s change of expressions. She didn’t look too happy. She probably felt hopeless and gave up in despair. She turned the table towards him and reminded him for his Sangeet because she probably didn’t want to get too involved and get hurt because she is aware Anirudh doesn’t remember anything.

Keeping your positivity on one side, I couldn’t avoid my disappointments roaming in my heart. I don’t blame him as a character, the writers are ruining his image. Not everyone will dissect meanings behind his demeanor like us so people will end him doubting his integrity and love! I had high hopes that at least if not explicit, he’ll throw chote mote ishaareeee towards Jhanak. But let’s see. We rant, we have our disappointments, but we end up giving him more benefit of doubt. 🥲