Vicky talking about Katrina in GQ and stardom - Page 2

Originally posted by: FatalFlaw

I don't agree with his statement that we see a new star every week and then forget about them the next week. I mean, there's a reason why Animal opened ten times bigger than Captain Marshal or whatever that war movie was. People still rush to theaters to watch stars. Faces definitely matter.

Vicky is right in the context of bollywood. There is no superstars as such. But in south there are young superstars. But now movies success depend on making, story, direction etc. so a face isn’t alone the factor.

This was a really good read.

Originally posted by: SakZ

Vicky is right in the context of bollywood. There is no superstars as such. But in south there are young superstars. But now movies success depend on making, story, direction etc. so a face isn’t alone the factor.

I know he is not young but Mahesh is one, isnt it? I dont have much info about the South.

Originally posted by: lauriesa

Ranbir also only has 4 clean in his 17 years career so Vicky is right. He is a huge nepo. Ranbir is no superstar it ends with HR.

Ranbir's recent release is a bigger hit than all of Vicky's small hits combined, so let's not even go there. The most any producer will sign Vicky for in a big movie is a supporting role. I get it, you wake up every morning upset that Ranbir dumped Katrina and now she's going to spend her life with a supporting actor, but let's not compare Vicky and Ranbir.

Originally posted by: SakZ

Vicky is right in the context of bollywood. There is no superstars as such. But in south there are young superstars. But now movies success depend on making, story, direction etc. so a face isn’t alone the factor.

Nah, I disagree with him. Faces definitely sell, which is why all the big openings last year belonged to the major stars. Sure, lesser-known stars can deliver hits, and bigger stars can flop, but the opening day numbers definitely say something about stars.

lol shoving "SUPERSTAR RANBIR KAPOOR" in our faces on a film poster doesnt make him a superstar there are superstars on one side and content that looks appealing to masses on other which is what makes people decide if they wanna watch something that doesnt have khans or hrithik or ajay

If u ask people on the streets who is their fav actor, its either gonna be any of the khans or hrithik or ajay or even akki. Animal was a big hit cos vanga is a very smart filmmaker who knows this kind of content works in a world where most people need an outlet- animal had all ingredients, violence nudity, masochism and a lost male lead. So controversial content plus hit music also

Rk is a good actor and a star, just like ranveer but none of these two have the mad raw ground stardom where like u see garlands on posters. Atleast now. If you check, the only actual other hit rk has had in last 10y was sanju? And he has hirani and VVC to thank for that because they are a brand. He was good in the film but it wasnt out of unconditional love and adulation for him. It was to see sanjay dutt's drug and prison story narrated by hirani.

otherwise all flops and underperformers. Adhm and tjmm with superhit music and massive marketing only managed 13cr and 15cr openings andnwere semi-hits that says lot. Meanwhile for ex. dunki had flop songs, an average trailer but got an opening of 28cr. fighter had average trailer, flop songs and zero promotions but still got 22cr opening on a thursday. This is real stardom. If u're only spending time on twitter, ur representation of stardom is very faulty lol

Originally posted by: Pagglait

lol shoving "SUPERSTAR RANBIR KAPOOR" in our faces on a film poster doesnt make him a superstar there are superstars on one side and content that looks appealing to masses on other which is what makes people decide if they wanna watch something that doesnt have khans or hrithik or ajay

If u ask people on the streets who is their fav actor, its either gonna be any of the khans or hrithik or ajay or even akki. Animal was a big hit cos vanga is a very smart filmmaker who knows this kind of content works in a world where most people need an outlet- animal had all ingredients, violence nudity, masochism and a lost male lead. So controversial content plus hit music also

Rk is a good actor and a star, just like ranveer but none of these two have the mad raw ground stardom where like u see garlands on posters. Atleast now. If you check, the only actual other hit rk has had in last 10y was sanju? And he has hirani and VVC to thank for that because they are a brand. He was good in the film but it wasnt out of unconditional love and adulation for him. It was to see sanjay dutt's drug and prison story narrated by hirani.

otherwise all flops and underperformers. Adhm and tjmm with superhit music and massive marketing only managed 13cr and 15cr openings andnwere semi-hits that says lot. Meanwhile for ex. dunki had flop songs, an average trailer but got an opening of 28cr. fighter had average trailer, flop songs and zero promotions but still got 22cr opening on a thursday. This is real stardom. If u're only spending time on twitter, ur representation of stardom is very faulty lol

Well said.

The is nothing wrong to say your favorite actor isn't a superstar, I am a huge Ranveer and Vicky fan and will tell you first they are no superstars. Ranbir is the same, what makes it worse with is he is the Alia of ML's. He was the first one to tell you that all movies other actors get goes to him first. He has huge privlidge but he is no superstar. But his box office is disappointing, Kartik has more clean hits than Ranbir.

Originally posted by: lauriesa

Well said.

The is nothing wrong to say your favorite actor isn't a superstar, I am a huge Ranveer and Vicky fan and will tell you first they are no superstars. Ranbir is the same, what makes it worse with is he is the Alia of ML's. He was the first one to tell you that all movies other actors get goes to him first. He has huge privlidge but he is no superstar. But his box office is disappointing, Kartik has more clean hits than Ranbir.

For a Vicky fan to acknowledge first that he's not a superstar isn't exactly applause-worthy or deserving of the humblest award. After all, one of his releases from last year opened to just lakhs.

Originally posted by: FatalFlaw

For a Vicky fan to acknowledge first that he's not a superstar isn't exactly applause-worthy or deserving of the humblest award. After all, one of his releases from last year opened to just lakhs.

Vicky is one movie away to have the same clean hits as Ranbir, and his first ML role was in 2016, his first taste to masses was in 2019. If that doesnt tell you how Ranbir box office is dismal, nothing will since Ranbir debuted in 2007. Ranbir is the most overrated, most privlidedged actor, the male Alia.

Vicky is honest enough with himself and he is fine with that, meanwhile would Ranior admit himself he is no superstar? Or his fans? Doubt, delusional runs in that family the same way his fans throw Animal to people face forgetting that Vanga gave Shahid a blockbuster too. Ranbir is the Shahid of his generation without Shahid not having privilege like Ranbir and more talented than Ranbir.

Ranbir is no superstar, never was.

When Kartik, Ranveer that debuted years later have more clean hits than you as a huge nepo know you are down bad.

Originally posted by: Pagglait

lol shoving "SUPERSTAR RANBIR KAPOOR" in our faces on a film poster doesnt make him a superstar

Animal was a big hit cos vanga is a very smart filmmaker who knows this kind of content works in a world where most people need an outlet- animal had all ingredients, violence nudity, masochism and a lost male lead. So controversial content plus hit music also

He was good in the film but it wasnt out of unconditional love and adulation for him. It was to see sanjay dutt's drug and prison story narrated by hirani.

otherwise all flops and underperformers. Adhm and tjmm with superhit music and massive marketing only managed 13cr and 15cr openings andnwere semi-hits that says lot. Meanwhile for ex. dunki had flop songs, an average trailer but got an opening of 28cr. fighter had average trailer, flop songs and zero promotions but still got 22cr opening on a thursday. This is real stardom. If u're only spending time on twitter, ur representation of stardom is very faulty lol

The random addition of 'superstar' on the Animal posters was hilarious and quite cringe tbh As if they wanted to convince people by presenting it as a matter of fact.

@bold Exactly, all this. Just to corroborate what you're saying, a loooot of guys (who aren't fans of anyone) I know said that the movie was like a therapy session to nikaalo internal bhadaas, mainly because of the dysfunctional father-son dynamic, and ofc to watch Tripti Dimri lmao. Ranbir is a good actor no doubt but to attribute Animal raking in so much money to him only is shallow analysis.

@italics lmao that was frank 😭

Not to forget that Dunki clashed with Salaar. Agree about Fighter too. Can't deny that Hrithik currently has lost momentum because of his idiotic tendency to do less movies and having big gaps between but still, that 22 cr opening was pretty impressive considering the appalling lack of promotions and mid songs