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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

I didn't watch if after getting to know it was based on Devdutt Patnaik. The guy is way self obsessed (has blocked me on Twitter)


But seems they gave some good elements too. I didn't like that they were making Mandavi grayish


Gargi thing was good that they showed

I have read Devdutt Patnaik 's Jaya and Gita and really liked it. Also the show devlok with devdutt patanaik was very good . It was very informative and interesting . I got a new perspective on a lot of things.

I have read in a lot of places that he behaves very nasty on twitter . Don't know why , he looked so shant and composed in the show.

I can't handle Amish though . I heard the audio book of Rama Chandra series little bit and my head started spinning . It was another universe with merely the names of Ramayan being used 🙄

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: Tani91

continuing the discussion from the other post!


Thanks for the information did not know that! All that just doesn’t make me respect him then. He went though the ends of the earth to get her back and didn’t even trust that she was pure? Toh phir faida kya hua? Then the people who question his worthiness as a god are right then. If he’s God (or avatar of God) then he should stand up for right and justice which is what he’s known for, this just leaves a sour taste for me. Sorry but as a woman this irks me a lot that despite all that she still had to prove herself. And him taking the role of a king more serious of a husband and father? That’s what it doesn’t sit right with me, he performed his duty as a son so well but failed as a husband then in my eyes.

See no one can Deny that he didn't behave well as a husband there. Forget you and me, even Valmiki ji himself mentioned that kind of words Ramji was totally unpleasant and Seetaji didn't deserve to hear those. So it's not that Ramji wasn't criticized for this

But we must understand that things are never binary, it's not always good vs bad. Ramji clearly knew that he was a man of high rank and would always be in view of public. He couldn't have let scar on his family name.

Again it wasn't about him trusting her, it was more like he said he can't believe Ravan controlled himself (I.e. didn't force himself onto her), now we all can agree that had Ravan actually forced, things might have been different even if Seeta ji didn't reciprocate and tried to remain loyal)

It wasn't her fault, but that was the society back then and even now, in such situations, Women are punished knowingly or unknowingly. Being a Human Avatar, he couldn't have behaved different from how humans will behave.


Lastly as I said in other post, I think he played diplomatically here, saying harsh words so that Seeta ma decides self immolation, he knew she was pious so won't be burnt and then all will believe in her.


P.S. if you copy quote post to a different thread, no notification comes, you need to tag the person for them to get notification

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: Tani91

continuing the discussion from the other post!


Thanks for the information did not know that! All that just doesn’t make me respect him then. He went though the ends of the earth to get her back and didn’t even trust that she was pure? Toh phir faida kya hua? Then the people who question his worthiness as a god are right then. If he’s God (or avatar of God) then he should stand up for right and justice which is what he’s known for, this just leaves a sour taste for me. Sorry but as a woman this irks me a lot that despite all that she still had to prove herself. And him taking the role of a king more serious of a husband and father? That’s what it doesn’t sit right with me, he performed his duty as a son so well but failed as a husband then in my eyes.

No this was all play to bring Brahma ji there ... He came and said That Sita maiyya was indeed avatar of Lakshmi and then he reveals that he knows all this but put up play through it so that Sita divinity comes into forefront .... Otherwise whole Lanka kand and Kishkindha kand is nothing but Many times Ramji pining for her to the point of getting fainted a lot and talking to Vanaspati...

And one more thing Ahalya was doshi there .. therefore her becoming lifeless was her paschatap and tapasya ...So Shri Ramji fighting for Ahalya in every Ramayan shown is actually wrong and to me indirectly it puts Gautam Rishi ( who is one of the Saptrishi ) tapobal in bad light .. Shri Ram forgiving after proper Prayaschit is the good thing.. this Sita Vanvas was actually A lot of curse of Vrinda , Bhrigu

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: vaidharbhi95

I have read Devdutt Patnaik 's Jaya and Gita and really liked it. Also the show devlok with devdutt patanaik was very good . It was very informative and interesting . I got a new perspective on a lot of things.

I have read in a lot of places that he behaves very nasty on twitter . Don't know why , he looked so shant and composed in the show.

I can't handle Amish though . I heard the audio book of Rama Chandra series little bit and my head started spinning . It was another universe with merely the names of Ramayan being used 🙄

You know why he blocked me? He had made a post that word Sanatan Dharma is very new only few humdred years old, I responded to to him with the copper plate inscription of MadhavVarman from 7th century which mentions the word Sanatan Dharma and details ChaturVarna.. he couldn't take it and blocked me


I have read Jaya too, but he added lot of unreal things, like Draupadi loving Karna(Jackfruit folklore), Niyoga was changed and what not,

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: Sneha2002

No this was all play to bring Brahma ji there ... He came and said That Sita maiyya was indeed avatar of Lakshmi and then he reveals that he knows all this but put up play through it so that Sita divinity comes into forefront .... Otherwise whole Lanka kand and Kishkindha kand is nothing but Many times Ramji pining for her to the point of getting fainted a lot and talking to Vanaspati...

And one more thing Ahalya was doshi there .. therefore her becoming lifeless was her paschatap and tapasya ...So Shri Ramji fighting for Ahalya in every Ramayan shown is actually wrong and to me indirectly it puts Gautam Rishi ( who is one of the Saptrishi ) tapobal in bad light .. Shri Ram forgiving after proper Prayaschit is the good thing.. this Sita Vanvas was actually A lot of curse of Vrinda , Bhrigu

Are you sure he says that he knew all these?? That part isn't there in critical edition, it's only Agni testified for Seeta ma and he accepted her

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Posted: 1 years ago

But Ravana had got cursed that's why didn't force Sita is what i have seen in other versions

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Posted: 1 years ago

Mata Sita’s Exile ( https://os.me/short-stories/did-shri-rama-really-abandon-mata-sita/#:~:text=Based%20upon%20the%20scriptures%2Cmost,Ravana%20for%20so%20many%20months.)

My apologies for jumping into conversation of Mata Sita’s apparent exile uninvited. This is such a topic that distresses so many and finally I found above linked article quite satisfactory. There are two books mentioned, I have read one and writing there seems to resonate with spiritual sentiments. Love that is centre of all justice. Spiritual upliftment and merging into infinite spirit of bliss. Any judgement that doesn’t pushes one into that ultimate goal is adharma as concluded in “Holy Bhagvat Gita” by lord himself.

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: Chinie

But Ravana had got cursed that's why didn't force Sita is what i have seen in other versions

Yes that's true. But obviously common people didn't know about that curse, technically even Ramji didn't know it in human form


For them she was in his custody so for most, she would have been assumed as violated(for lack of better word)

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Posted: 1 years ago

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Posted: 1 years ago

Have updated the original post with the link.

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