"Mein" (ARY Digital) - Ayeza Khan, Wahaj Ali #4 [DT Note Pg 132] - Page 35

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I haven't watched chupke chupke...will keep it in my list.

Originally posted by: chicksoup

I watched one of these reviews after the Zaid' in MJ bedroom episode just like that. There I found a lady suddenly come out with her tubelight moment that this guy craved for comfort and that's why it happened...it was a sudden discovery for her when it was clear to most of us here by then that he was un happy with Ayra and liked to linger around MJ. I was actually surprised he turned down the coffee...that was the most natural thing to do- have coffee with her till Ayra comes....but janaab was too upset to even hold a normal. conversation with her...it was clear he needed the companionship.more than anything else from his partner all through the show ..how did these reviewers miss it? This is why I said...they don't get the continuity in the story if they watch too many shows. I stoped 22 Qadam after Mein got interesting because I can't enjoy two shows like that. Same with Jaan e jahaan. And now even TB scenes I don't feel like watching...I'm saying that's how compelling this show is with all its faults...it needs very careful viewing.

Agree with you. But if you ask me that balcony scene wasn't that unclear that SH couldn't understand it being a reviewer. Whole of social media was boom with that scene. Everyone was like what? Zaid liked MJ in the past and many rejoiced saying now it's finally begun. Yes many didn't understand but reviewers??

Originally posted by: arshi1983

Just a free gyaan- Do NOT take these Pak reviewers seriously.Most of us witnessed their clownery during the TB days. Fuchsia loves to preach and give moral lessons in the name of reviews and the SH guys review like some horny teenagers.

oh I don’t take them seriously at all. I just watch them once in a while when I think it’ll be an entertaining watch and I knew this week was gonna be fun 😂

They might miss out on some details once in a while but as far as writing and continuity goes, their opinions make sense. Which is why I wanted to see what they made of that balcony scene and the whole Asif and Ayra ooc stuff.

And as expected, they couldn’t make any sense out of the balcony scene and they thought Asif and Ayra have both gone off the rails lol.

I mean I understand the balcony scene now but I’m telling you that audience complaints and confusion is totally valid and understandable. This is just not good story telling

Originally posted by: tgota92

I can’t picture it. The drama itself hasn’t depicted any attraction based on personality at least. She’s been labelled extremely aggressive, rude, selfish, arrogant by Zaid himself.

Which is why Zaid’s perspective on this is needed. To give some depth to this. Was it an immature crush, was it just looks and confidence? What? We need scenes, flashbacks, some context to understand this backstory. It came out of the left field for majority of the audience and they took a double take on this new info. A lot more clarification is required before it can be made logical.

So all we can do is wait I guess

@Bold - This is literally the need of the hour. A visual medium can generate different perspectives in audience's mind. At least some hints or narratives are needed to clarify the character's standpoint. Zaid needs to tell us what is going on his mind (other than his thank you's to Mubashira!! ).

I have realised, as someone who entered the drama through the OST, I actually started it with the preconception of Zaid's unrequited love for Mubashira - no hints or very insignificant hints given in the drama on this back story bothered me. The lyrics and picturization of the OST, both were hinting that though. In the first sequence, he walks merrily with flowers towards her, but she passes him haughtily, barely acknowledging his presence. Then he is sitting behind her, unknown to her, admiring her - she is still unaware or does not want to acknowledge his attention. She picks the flowers, but doesn't spare any glance to him. This was my hint of his love and her not acknowledging it! I know that OSTs can be completely irrelevant to the story, but the lyrics of this one seems very unconventional - not the usual love/ hate song, it seems it was tailor-made and it has its own lyrical narrative which is beautiful. So, I want to believe the its tale.

But I agree with you, it is too late to add hints now. It could have been explored beautifully. As I wrote in one of my previous posts, there were only very few crumbs thrown our way - one who believed there was a backstory may have taken them in their stride, but there was nothing concrete. The two verbal hints I could think of was ; one - when he told Kashmala about Aira and how he values respect and understanding over love, Zaid made a comment on 'the so called rich girls'. It was so sudden and not needed, unless he had his heart broken by a 'rich girl'!; second - when MJ said 'no one can ignore me for long, especially not you.' Those dialogues definitely meant something! Other than that all I had were speculations - through the way Zaid looked at her longingly - like he was walking down a painful memory lane, and his attempts to shake those memories off. But again, these things can be seen as we want to see them. So, I agree with you, they need to give us more than these crumbs if they need the audience to believe in their backstory :)

Also it makes much more sense for it to be a crush and he got snubbed right in the bud very early on. Love? Nah. I don’t buy it for a second. I think that needs to develop once Ayra is out of the picture, once he sees the side of MJ where she supports him in whatever goes down, her real “redemption” arc is still waiting to happen after all - where she proves herself to him. That’s when those deep feelings make sense. And the maker of the drama OWES us these key moments anyway - instead of labeling it as “old history” and just expecting the audience to swallow it. No… we’ve only seen Zaid’s affections and love for Ayra so far in the story. His backstory with MJ and their moments going forward need to be given their due attention and focus too so this new angle can be bought. Otherwise it just looks like an easy stunt placed strategically to make their endgame justified.

As for the OST from the male leads perspective - just listening to it gives Ayras multiple rejections to Zaid vibes lol. MJ might have rejected him once but Ayra did so many more times after that 😂😂😂 and they’ve always played the theme on the Zaid Ayra angst scenes since day 1.

So whenever I try to make sense of it from Zaid’s pov, I’m like of course - he loves and prioritises Ayra all the time but she doesn’t prioritize him. But yeah you’re right - both make sense. Both women rejected Zaid at some point or the other. I guess that’s the beauty of the lyrics that it applies to all scenarios

Mainly though, I think this is MJ’s song since Zaid’s rejection of her has been the most constant and consistent theme in the show so far.

Originally posted by: chicksoup

Asif:

He has some redeeming points in terms of parenting.

I have said this before. I really liked how he Supported Kash when she said she'll leave Rayaan if things didn't change .. he was very happy for her and never bothered about the business or Jafar then. He was glad his daughter found her self respect and he gave a good bhaashan on how nothing should come above self respect, definitely not love. 🤭

I feel his hatred for Ayra is not just his class mentality or she reminds him of his roots like someone suggested....he's looking out for Zaid here. His problem is not just that Ayra is from a different class, he keeps repeating to himself that middle class girls are gold diggers. And now he's seeing only that behaviour in Ayra though she has always kept her self respect high ...in fact she has kept it way above her love for Zaid - so in a way she's following Asif's advice to his daughter. 😄

When Asif looks at Ayra, he sees the girl who asked for 5 Cr in emotional blackmail (playing with Zaid's guilt), joined a rival against his business interests and behaves oversmart in front of his guests. He can't stand her also because he feels Zaid is blind to not see what he's seeing and he wishes someone would knock some sense into Zaid's head. He can't even stand MJ standing up or supporting Zaid when he's ticking him off regarding Ayra.

Other thing is, despite everything...Zaid seems to love his baba...he knows all his faults, but he genuinely loves him ...this is another reason he may not be punished even for Aamir's death. He didn't shoot Aamir. He didn't mean to kill the guy...rest all he did what he usually does to evict a building or get a deal done etc. Amir just succumbed to the circumstances he created.

@Bold - This actually is the truth, I just did not want to voice it, but I had to agree with you on this! Asif is a dominant parent - despite being an achiever and the able heir to their family legacy, Zaid is constantly subdued by his father. Asif is the head of the family and his word has to be followed. Yes, Zaid denies his father, rebels against him, expresses his displeasure– but you could see his character holds this suppressed reverence towards his father – it could be a mix of care, admiration and love, but it is there in his voice and body language when he interacts with his father and calls him 'baba' (even when he rebels!). Regardless of everything Asif did, I am not sure Zaid was angry with his father – displeasure and disappointment may be, but no fury - what he did with Ayra's family was nothing short of criminal, even Zaid acknowledged that, despite that he was only disappointed on him. With Zaid's moral compass, one would expect him to be furious, but he was not or he just could not. Even after his marriage with MJ, He was channelizing the rage he felt for his father's doings towards MJ, his inability to directly declare his father responsible for Ayra’s misery was obvious – actually, he credited all that to MJ saying that Asif is doing all that because of her (He is in denial that his father would have done exactly the same even without Mubashira in the picture!). I found this as very interesting. As the story unfolds and more points are being added to Asif's criminal record, I would want to see how Zaid will react. Honestly, I don't know whether I can believe that Zaid could be the one bringing Asif down - Zaid has a softer edge to him (definitely maternal inheritance!), I don't know whether he can plot to hurt his father.

On a lighter note, I really want to see the downfall of Asif, but Shazad Nawaz is making it really difficult - I actually really enjoy it when he wins . The actor's portrayal is just perfect - his body language, voice, diction, personality and styling; the sense of colonial sophistication he exudes through his character is just brilliant. He was such a perfect casting choice - while enjoying his victories, I had to pinch myself and remind that he is the main villain and should be punished - face palm

With the show ending soon, they won’t have time to explore Zaid and MJ’s past . Even if they end up together, it would be done hastily in the last few episodes.

Originally posted by: anu41982

@Bold - This actually is the truth, I just did not want to voice it, but I had to agree with you on this! Asif is a dominant parent - despite being an achiever and the able heir to their family legacy, Zaid is constantly subdued by his father. Asif is the head of the family and his word has to be followed. Yes, Zaid denies his father, rebels against him, expresses his displeasure– but you could see his character holds this suppressed reverence towards his father – it could be a mix of care, admiration and love, but it is there in his voice and body language when he interacts with his father and calls him 'baba' (even when he rebels!). Regardless of everything Asif did, I am not sure Zaid was angry with his father – displeasure and disappointment may be, but no fury - what he did with Ayra's family was nothing short of criminal, even Zaid acknowledged that, despite that he was only disappointed on him. With Zaid's moral compass, one would expect him to be furious, but he was not or he just could not. Even after his marriage with MJ, He was channelizing the rage he felt for his father's doings towards MJ, his inability to directly declare his father responsible for Ayra’s misery was obvious – actually, he credited all that to MJ saying that Asif is doing all that because of her (He is in denial that his father would have done exactly the same even without Mubashira in the picture!). I found this as very interesting. As the story unfolds and more points are being added to Asif's criminal record, I would want to see how Zaid will react. Honestly, I don't know whether I can believe that Zaid could be the one bringing Asif down - Zaid has a softer edge to him (definitely maternal inheritance!), I don't know whether he can plot to hurt his father.

On a lighter note, I really want to see the downfall of Asif, but Shazad Nawaz is making it really difficult - I actually really enjoy it when he wins . The actor's portrayal is just perfect - his body language, voice, diction, personality and styling; the sense of colonial sophistication he exudes through his character is just brilliant. He was such a perfect casting choice - while enjoying his victories, I had to pinch myself and remind that he is the main villain and should be punished - face palm

@bold Could not have said any better. I second this. That's why I again and again say actor playing the role is very important. I root for him bcz the way he plays is..

I have to remind and convince myself that he is villain, he will get punished 😂😂😂

Originally posted by: 2RsFan

With the show ending soon, they won’t have time to explore Zaid and MJ’s past . Even if they end up together, it would be done hastily in the last few episodes.

it’s seriously baffling to me the amount of time spent on Zaid/Ayra and also just Ayra when they’re not even endgame 🤦🏻‍♀️

They need at least 5-6 proper closure episodes to dissect Zaid MJ properly once Ayra is no longer in the picture for whatever reason. And keep the focus on them. Sell it to us, man!