TERE BIN - Yumna Z-Wahaj Ali DT #31 "Miya-Biwi ka personal matter hai" - Page 77

Originally posted by: mahiaana

Not just numb, trust-issues bhi hein ab uske. Trust me mujhe uske dard ka pura ehsaas hein, aur mujhe afsos aur uske 3 nakam parents par gussa bhi bohut ata hein...

But my only ask is give respect meerab, behave a little humanly.....with the only person who's standing like a mountain besides you when everyone literally left you alone in middle of a dessert !

Woh sabke diye huye dard se thaak chuki hein, uske nazro mei sabne galat kiya, sab guneh gar hein...uske dard ka karan yeh sab hein

At the same time she's now becoming the reason of someone else's suffering, dard....kisi aur ke feelings ko woh bar bar chot paucha rahi hein.

Remember what murtasim said? "Mohabbat na sahi tasalli hi dedo?"

" sohar na sahi, insaan hi maan lo"

Bas yehi cheez hum bhi usse maang rahe hein, husband, love yeh saab na kare...jarurat na hein usse bhi mohabbat hona parega...but insaan hi maan le?

Meerab jinse nafrat karti hein, kih inke jaisi nahi banni hein! Woh apne dard ke arey waise hi ban ti ja rahi hein sirf murtasim ke liye. ( not for all...uska sara gussa, galat behavior murtasim ke kandhe hi chala rahi hein)

Jo sabne milke uski saath ki

Woh akeli murtasim par kar rahi hein

And may be usko (meerab) samajh nahi ayi abtak...

But uski tarha baki sab bhi murtasim ke kandhe par hi ek ke baad ek bojh dalta ja raha hein.

But phir bhi agar meerab ek bar haat rakhke insaaniyaat hi dikha deti murtasim pure duniya ka bojh haas kar utha leta

But this man is breaking now....uska kandha ab bojh uthane se kamzor par raha hein!

Mahi , when someone is so much pain, they will not be in position to comprehend others feelings !

Have u ever seen how women in labour room behave ? They know the doctors, nurses and even spouse are trying to be supportive but they are so much in pain that they swear, curse and what not especially those who have been in labour for longer hours !

Remember what murtasim said? "Mohabbat na sahi tasalli hi dedo?"—— what tasalli a broken women give to another man, when she herself is clueless about it and when she herself is in need of tasalli.

" sohar na sahi, insaan hi maan lo"

—— Nobody treated her as human so she is like why should I ? Remember she always had this feeling if he could this marriage could have stopped !

Originally posted by: midniteangel

I think it's related to his dreams n maybe career

Could be possible but on the English subtitle it was referring to "she was my love" something like this if I'm not wrong.

Originally posted by: mahiaana

Not just numb, trust-issues bhi hein ab uske. Trust me mujhe uske dard ka pura ehsaas hein, aur mujhe afsos aur uske 3 nakam parents par gussa bhi bohut ata hein...

But my only ask is give respect meerab, behave a little humanly.....with the only person who's standing like a mountain besides you when everyone literally left you alone in middle of a dessert !

Woh sabke diye huye dard se thaak chuki hein, uske nazro mei sabne galat kiya, sab guneh gar hein...uske dard ka karan yeh sab hein

At the same time she's now becoming the reason of someone else's suffering, dard....kisi aur ke feelings ko woh bar bar chot paucha rahi hein.

Remember what murtasim said? "Mohabbat na sahi tasalli hi dedo?"

" sohar na sahi, insaan hi maan lo"

Bas yehi cheez hum bhi usse maang rahe hein, husband, love yeh saab na kare...jarurat na hein usse bhi mohabbat hona parega...but insaan hi maan le?

Meerab jinse nafrat karti hein, kih inke jaisi nahi banni hein! Woh apne dard ke arey waise hi ban ti ja rahi hein sirf murtasim ke liye. ( not for all...uska sara gussa, galat behavior murtasim ke kandhe hi chala rahi hein)

Jo sabne milke uski saath ki

Woh akeli murtasim par kar rahi hein

And may be usko (meerab) samajh nahi ayi abtak...

But uski tarha baki sab bhi murtasim ke kandhe par hi ek ke baad ek bojh dalta ja raha hein.

But phir bhi agar meerab ek bar haat rakhke insaaniyaat hi dikha deti murtasim pure duniya ka bojh haas kar utha leta

But this man is breaking now....uska kandha ab bojh uthane se kamzor par raha hein!

I also understand her pain. She had gone through a lot. A lot. Her foster-parents, her biological dad do not understand her pain. She would never have been married to Murtasim had they took a stand for her.

Murtasim did not suffer from the things like Meerab did but that doesn’t he didn’t at all. That man has done everything he could for her expect leaving her for her own good.

Originally posted by: Winterberry

No offence but from episode 3-26 I never saw any asking meerab the same question! How is she ? Is she doing fine ?

Come think of it anyone in meerabs place would go into clinical depression!

Girls , you think she has become numb with trauma that she is unable to show any emotion?

Yes murtasim might have made sacrifices too for family sake.

But it's nothing compared to what meerab went through and going through.

Murtasim has family who treats him as God, has mother who don't mind using women as objects for her son sake.

Yes murtasim is putting efforts. He is putting efforts because he wanted to. He made a choice to love meerab and doing it by facing all difficulties which is definitely appreciable.

But meerab didn't have that damn choice too.

Murtasim also forced into marriage. But nothing much changed for him except having a wife who doesn't like him.

But for meerab her whole life changed. Her identity snatched, she was caged, slapped, got abandoned by her adopted parents when she needed them the most. Got to know her real father left her by blaming her for her own mother death. Nothing can be more cruel than this.

Murtasim got mad when he thought meerab is orphan and his mother wanted him to marry a girl who don't have lineage.

Only after knowing she is anwar's daughter his treatment towards her changed.

He has no right to give marriage suggestion to maa begum as a means to control meerab especially if he has gone through the same (about his chahat).

It's easy to sympathise with murtasim. But I can never overlook or undermine what meerab gone through.

I can't imagine myself in her place even for a second where I have to live as per others wish not as myself.

Originally posted by: TR_19

Who was murtasim's chahat that's has been taken away from him also....murtasim said he only loved meerab in his life ? Then who is this chahat ?

May be he had someone in his life. But he had said “Mujhe mohabbat sirf 1 baar hi ho skti hai”. So, it may be career which he was forced to leave because of his family.

But I think it still might be a girl.

Originally posted by: Kumuda-123

I already made many posts of it.

Yes murtasim might have made sacrifices too for family sake.

But it's nothing compared to what meerab went through and going through.

Murtasim has family who treats him as God, has mother who don't mind using women as objects for her son sake.

Yes murtasim is putting efforts. He is putting efforts because he wanted to. He made a choice to love meerab and doing it by facing all difficulties which is definitely appreciable.

But meerab didn't have that damn choice too.

Murtasim also forced into marriage. But nothing much changed for him except having a wife who doesn't like him.

But for meerab her whole life changed. Her identity snatched, she was caged, slapped, got abandoned by her adopted parents when she needed them the most. Got to know her real father left her by blaming her for her own mother death. Nothing can be more cruel than this.

Murtasim got mad when he thought meerab is orphan and his mother wanted him to marry a girl who don't have lineage.

Only after knowing she is anwar's daughter his treatment towards her changed.

He has no right to give marriage suggestion to maa begum as a means to control meerab especially if he has gone through the same (about his chahat).

It's easy to sympathise with murtasim. But I can never overlook or undermine what meerab gone through.

I can't imagine myself in her place even for a second where I have to live as per others wish not as myself.

The problem is we all tend to compare Murtasim and Meerab and start score card! He did - She didn’t / He didn’t loose - she lost this is diluting the actual point !

Instead if we could see them separately as individuals and speak , probably then we could probably get more insight or from where his/her actions are coming from !

Originally posted by: TR_19

Yes true I member I post once how can meerab resist murtasim...amna aunty was talking about how can meerab resist murtasim. 😆 there is no point for amna aunty's note book then.

Her note book is useful to write all the fans posts, so she can use it during the review 😅

Originally posted by: Kumuda-123

I already made many posts of it.

Yes murtasim might have made sacrifices too for family sake.

But it's nothing compared to what meerab went through and going through.

Murtasim has family who treats him as God, has mother who don't mind using women as objects for her son sake.

Yes murtasim is putting efforts. He is putting efforts because he wanted to. He made a choice to love meerab and doing it by facing all difficulties which is definitely appreciable.

But meerab didn't have that damn choice too.

Murtasim also forced into marriage. But nothing much changed for him except having a wife who doesn't like him.

But for meerab her whole life changed. Her identity snatched, she was caged, slapped, got abandoned by her adopted parents when she needed them the most. Got to know her real father left her by blaming her for her own mother death. Nothing can be more cruel than this.

Murtasim got mad when he thought meerab is orphan and his mother wanted him to marry a girl who don't have lineage.

Only after knowing she is anwar's daughter his treatment towards her changed.

He has no right to give marriage suggestion to maa begum as a means to control meerab especially if he has gone through the same (about his chahat).

It's easy to sympathise with murtasim. But I can never overlook or undermine what meerab gone through.

I can't imagine myself in her place even for a second where I have to live as per others wish not as myself.

CHOICE is something so pivotal in their case.

The ultimate powerplay lies there.

Meerab gave him the choice to decline the contract and call off the wedding. It was his CHOICE to sign it and maker her his wife even if it came with conditions.

It is his choice to pursue his wife endlessly, in hopes of reciprocation, he knows he is not getting the same in return, still it remains his CHOICE to not give up.

It is his choice to keep this marriage, because it is a fact, the moment he wants to get done with her and the marriage, he CAN and no one will question him, because as a man, he has that agency. Again CHOICE.

His mother is asking him to divorce her, if she does not give him the rights of a husband, again the CHOICE is his to make.

Loving her is his choice. This suffering in hopes to get her love back is also his choice.

the only choice Meerab has had during all her important life decisions is the access to her own body, which she achieved through the contract. Nothing else.

Conclusion: He is in a more powerful position than her, when looking with a pragmatic perspective.

Emotionally, she has the upper hand over him

Originally posted by: TR_19

Could be possible but on the English subtitle it was referring to "she was my love" something like this if I'm not wrong.

I had the same doubt as well when I watched with subtitles... but in the forum discussion they thought it was related to his dream n not a girl.

Originally posted by: -INAAYAT-

Precisely.

Who asked her how she felt knowing her parents are not actually her parents and she's the blood and flesh of the family she disliked all along?

When has she laughed wholeheartedly (golgappa was another story, good food makes you giddy) or lived life to the fullest and with her own wish? The khet scene where she ran after baby goats was her moment with herself which landed her in a tragic situation, because her husband had enemies waiting for his wife. Her walima dance and bam! She was slapped, infront of all, as a bride.

The moment Murtasim is away from her, she gets harmed, by either his own people or his enemies, thrown out for an accident she didn't do, kidnapped and what not.

Her whole life is as upturned and in a hell, as you would think his is.

But what no one notices, is that he is A MAN, who has agency, while she as a woman has none.

Even the agency of divorce rests on him. He can do whatever he wills and everyone will accord. Same isn't the case with her.

In a realistic situation, she would have ended up in a major identity crisis and completely unavailable emotionally, most likely depression and self-loathing.

Pfft. Here, she has obviously shut herself up. Cold. Apathetic. Rude. Indifferent.

Still beautifully flawed.

P.S. caught up a part of SH review, where Hassan says they have turned Meerab 'daaghdar' and it is so enraging when flawed female characters are so quickly put into labels and brackets. They indirectly deprived her of good character, which is again, quite judgmental for a show still on-air. And even if she has some shades of grey, why is she unacceptable? Men are given ample chances. No chances are given to women to reflect and redeem. all of them deserve abla naaris of heroines, who are just available to romance their heroes. Nothing beyond that. Pissed.

In itv we have male leads like arnav, rk, who acted as jerk towards fl because they had bad past. They do worse things than just being 'rude'. Still they are accepted. Because they are MALE LEADS.

But female lead can't even have basic human flaws.

There is difference between criticising her behaviour and outright shaming her for the things she never deserved.

It's irony people can't digest meerab wanting to meet her male friend who has feelings for her.

They literally character assassinate her for it.

And the same people had no problem when murtasim let haya touch him, sit on his bed, feed him, enter his private space not one time but many times.

This is when he claims to love his wife.

I am not even including what he did with haya last week in the name of helping her.

Male lead can be given 100 chances but how dare fl get chance.