GHKPM daily episode discussion thread #92 - Page 61

Originally posted by: Mikis

yea you have a point....

P plotting the marriage won't give V clearance to be with Sai because even if she initially plotted it ....it doesn't justify his actions of the HM and trip bakwas etc...unless she plotted...then later V was told that shes gone nuts so you have to keep up this fake marriage?!

If its not fake marriage maybe (and I know this is next to impossible) there will be a track of V making himself worthy of Sai ?!?

In Sai's mind, he has moved on. She has seen him taking vows and going for HM. Who will tell what is going on in his mind? I mean the way Sai proved her loyalty to him, how can he prove it to Sai? Unless he says he knows about Pakhi's mental state from before and he has been helping her recover?

In KD, it is out in the open that he is helping her as per doctor's suggestions. So here also someone other than him or pakhi should know this. Pulkit? How will Sai trust him? She thinks Virat's first love is Pakhi and he fell back to her. There is no way to show his love without doubt if there is a marriage. At some point, if Sai had not come back, he would have moved on right? So Sai will say, please do that now. Why should he come back to Sai just because she is alive? He is not doing anything for her. He seems loyal to Pakhi and her feelings. Marriage is nothing but that companionship right? He is having that with Pakhi so he should continue. Leaving Pakhi now for Sai makes him even worse.

agreed! They've made a huge mess of things here....they diverted from their original story and did this surrogacy and marriage and VP crap out of their own creativity and now they maybe trying to get back on the track of what you were saying KDs story (a very twisted version of it) but they've made a huge mess of things that without doing something stupid or illogical they can't "fix it"

its possible we may get some insight today? see how much V reveals in terms of Ps mental state and what he tells her?

or eventually Pulkit will be brought in to clear V's name and Sai has complete trust in Pulkit out of anyone else so that makes sense

but that gives V a clean chit! thats not fair....he tortures Sai and is saved by "he had to do it to help P?"

she still shouldnt go back to him - to save 1 person he messed with SEVERAL ppls lives and emotions - I dunno what happened in KD but thats why I think they will need 1 more track of V clearing his character earning his place in Sais life

Originally posted by: Life_Is_Dutiful

Lol he was giving gyaan to Pakhi to not separate a mother from her child and now he is doing the same thing. 😂

It seems like he told Sai the reason he did all that kaand in the resort. Sai is absolutely right. How can a woman who keeps threatening to kill herself take care of a child? Virat should first take Pakhi to a psychiatrist instead of giving Vinu to Pakhi to keep her sane. Tomorrow she will try to harm even Vinu.

Virat should first go to a psychiatrist himself.🤪

Originally posted by: Mikis

agreed! They've made a huge mess of things here....they diverted from their original story and did this surrogacy and marriage and VP crap out of their own creativity and now they maybe trying to get back on the track of what you were saying KDs story (a very twisted version of it) but they've made a huge mess of things that without doing something stupid or illogical they can't "fix it"

its possible we may get some insight today? see how much V reveals in terms of Ps mental state and what he tells her?

or eventually Pulkit will be brought in to clear V's name and Sai has complete trust in Pulkit out of anyone else so that makes sense

but that gives V a clean chit! thats not fair....he tortures Sai and is saved by "he had to do it to help P?"

she still shouldnt go back to him - to save 1 person he messed with SEVERAL ppls lives and emotions - I dunno what happened in KD but thats why I think they will need 1 more track of V clearing his character earning his place in Sais life

He will do that anyways. Just to get her trust is an uphill task. Even if there is no legal marraige, he has done enough damage to her heart. Just to clear that MUs, he will have to win her back. But till now we are not seeing anything. If he doesnt help her get her son also, then what else will he do.? romance? I hate him even dreaming about her, staying with Pakhi in that same room.

Originally posted by: NayaNehaD31

Virat should first go to a psychiatrist himself.🤪

He has got stockholm syndrome living with Pakhi 😆

omg. this man goes from worse to even worse everyday

So he expects that by telling Sai that P threatened suicide she should feel bad and not go to court? like seriously?!

moreover, she has done this before. Sai should remind him of her prior fake suicide drama to snatch Vinu and now one more instance of the same.

I mean really, now toh Sai has an even more solid reason to keep Vinu safe with her since P is not in a proper frame of mind to care for the child. I hope she records this statement and uses it in court saying V himself has accepted P is mentally ill , suicidal and as a consequence she is a danger to the child. This on top of illegal surrogacy , her crimes, her criminal record is more than enough reason for custody to be with sai

HOW CAN SAI LOSE THIS CASE?!

I dont know what is worse- Amnesia from makers about everything or remembering it all but still giving a stupid narrative.

First I was pissed that they were acting like they forgot Ps deeds but now they remember because V in his dream of Sai getting shot and Sai in her dialogue with lawyer acknowledge that P did dhokadhadi with Sai and was an illegal surrogate, went to jail and V even got suspended for his support in all this. but now I am pissed that even after recalling all the crimes they are letting P win court case and also will show Vinu pick P over Sai. Atleast one of these 2 things should have gone in Sai's favor.

This is so stupid.

And I really wish Sai could remind V of all the things him, P and CN have done to her- why should Sai concede or even honor him by listening to anything he says?! all he does is lie. and why should she think about anyone's khandaan izzat etc when they have accused her of being characterless and called Savi illegitimate, trying to get her drunk in party, BK going outside her house to do tamasha, and insulted her even for doing good for them even now- Vinu's cure, Mohit-Karishma, saving Ps life, everything! Did anyone ever consider her feelings in the slightest?! Why should she?

I wish that Sai would remind him of Ps conspiracy, her deliberate plotting and planning against her and criminal deeds. Why would Sai trust her son's custody with such a woman. The whole reason she left was to ensure this child is not raised by P. how can she watch that happen?

And even if she were to accept that until now P has done a good job of raising Vinu, now clearly she is not in the correct frame of mind. Sai didnt seek to remove P from Vinus life ever- but only ensure her claim on HER offspring. simple. But A woman who will steal a gun and fire it is clearly not in any position to take care of a child. A woman who is SO insecure that she would flee the country to an unknown location without even trying to talk it out maturely is not fit to care for a child. There is NO comparison between Sai's actions and Ps with respect to taking Vinu and leaving. Sai gave enough leeway, enough warnings to V, CN and even to P- even told her to forget everything in the past and peacefully co-exist after the delivery, and made always made her position clear. they even knew where she was going so if accident didnt happen, they would have known where to find Vinu and Sai. And she didnt hide her identity after she survived. Even post accident if they had been in touch with UM, they'd have known where she was. If Sai had really died, would V and CN not even stay in touch with UM- Sai's only family?! Sai didnt go back because she knew she would suffer more abuse and lose another child through miscarriage since she was pregnant with savi , she'd be blamed for Vinu's loss and she was already in guilt and grieving that and she couldnt go back to a hell hole where she would be made to feel worse and her husband had clearly picked another woman over his own wife even when she was being 100% rational and reasonable with him. She didnt ask him to leave his family. She only asked him to let P pay for her crimes. simple. and he didnt do that.

And its utterly inconsequential whether Vs marriage to P is real/fake and whether she has been mentally ill for years or just became suicidal- she has always been a problem, and if another woman is worth more for V than his own wife and kids and their well being then he clearly does not deserve to be with sai.

If he is going to adopt a child with a woman, share a room with a woman, celebrate grand marriage anniversary, buy her jewelry, hug her, close dance with her on an anniversary , publicly proclaim her as his wife multiple times , vow a lifetime of togetherness around the sacred fire as a husband in front of his family, go on honeymoon and allow this person to cuddle with him, appreciate their "beauty" and manao them the way a husband does a wife and then say - oh no, it was all fake and I never forgot Sai and I only loved Sai- is she supposed to accept that? Are audience supposed to accept that?! how utterly ridiculous is the thought!

The amount of times V has wronged and hurt Sai deliberately (not even including the unintentional/indirect times) is SO infinite that he is beyond all redemption. Despite that Sai has only responded with maturity, logic and kindness.

Very disheartened. what are the makers doing? they are making Sai the voice of the audience- so they have called out what P has done - but they are not punishing it. But addressing crimes and not spreading misinformation means to show that wrong deeds have consequences. Because without consequences, its like makers are endorsing that one can go scot free even after crimes of this magnitude! How irresponsible

this whole narrative of P being as much of a mother to Vinu as Sai and even giving "more pyaar than sagi maa" is HIGHLY PROBLEMATIC and is utter nonsense.

I agree, he has done nothing till now to show his so called love for Sai. Nor he expressed why he had to make certain decisions FOR pakhi.

But given that SaiRat is the endgame, how else will he show her his loyalty and love? What will make Sai go back to him, unless she forgives him and accepts him as her kids' father. She will always have this doubt in her mind, what if I didnt return?

I dont know how they will redeem him. Begging and saying sorry cant erase all those things he did and doing with Pakhi now. Atleast by helping her get Vinu, he would have shown his intentions. But no. Then how is SaiRat possible?

All that can and should happen is that Sai is cordial with V and allows him to be father to his kids which she is already doing. He has an independent equation with them. thats it. no matter how pathetic he is, the kids deserve to have a "father" in their life. They are biologically his offspring. 50% DNA was from him. and all that it can buy him is the chance to forge a relationship with them. For the sake of the kids, Sai will be mature as she has always been and maintain decorum even though ideally for all that he has done, she should get a restraining order against him and ensure he is in prison. but show wont. She will be mature and dignified and graceful. She is already accommodating V and CN only for the sake of kids and because she respects that they also have a biological and emotional bond with each of these people in their life. She is a very respectful and liberal person like that. And she has demonstrated it. She wont infringe on any of the CN oldies rights to pamper the grandkids even though she knows their hypocrisy. This love is only because of "ghar ke chiraag" and "apna khoon". There can be no greater display of her maturity and dignity and her values that she tolerates so much just to maintain peace and decorum in everyone's life. But she is constantly abused, taken for granted and denied of her basic rights and priveleges.

There should be no question of Sairat endgame after all that he has done. V cannot be redemeed as a husband at all. the only thing he can attempt to do to redeem himself is to be a dutiful, fair and just IPS officer - he is the frickin DCP fgs so he has a responsibility to enforce law and order in his own life and family first and secondly to also be a decent father to his 2 kids- both of whom currently do not even know he is their "real" dad. One kid thinks he is adopted, another thinks she adopted him! both have missed out valuable years in their lives with a full family knowing who they are. They lacked a proper identity. V has missed out valuable years of both kids lives and due to his actions Sai has missed out on part of Vinu's childhood. So going forward that's all they can fix. There are enough kids of divorced parents who live with one parent but have a good relationship with the other. Its not ideal that they wont get a typical joint family in the traditional sense but it is what it is.

Neither is Sairat needed, nor should it be desired by any sane and reasonable person.

A man who treats a person the way V has treated Sai isnt even a human being, let alone a husband. There is NO redemption. He can attempt to atleast become a decent human now.

As makers, they can do any crap they want but the least we as responsible audience can do is to outright reject such a narrative of Sai reconciling with V. If despite that they choose to ignore feedback and show nonsense as always, nothing we can do but i think its very sad if we accept what is shown and then even go as far as calling it "entertainment" and "fun" and "good drama". Yes its only a fictional show but imo that doesnt mean we need to trivialize the irresponsible and inappropriate content shown and accept it without any dissent.

Enabling a crime is a crime. Enabling irresponsible behavior is irresponsible.

Some strong willed, non addicted people have successfully quit watching and quit all discussion about the show- which is the best solution. For others that are far too invested and still following even peripherally and discussing because they enjoy the forum exchanges like myself- the least I can do is to call out rubbish as rubbish and not accept it as "entertainment"

When I see virat these days I remember what Sai said to Aunt Osha at an honoring ceremony,( Sahadi isse ,isse meri kolapuri chappal bhi shadi na kare )With this, even my Kolpuri sandal should not marry him. The girl knew it from the beginning.

Originally posted by: Aminarose31

When I see virat these days I remember what Sai said to Aunt Osha at an honoring ceremony,( Sahadi isse ,isse meri kolapuri chappal bhi shadi na kare )With this, even my Kolpuri sandal should not marry him. The girl knew it from the beginning.

It’s Usha, but yeah i agree! 🤗