Episode 630.. Happy Second Anniversary - Page 54

Originally posted by: sadiltl

I am scared to discuss anything 'hidden' in the episode. Some of the episodes feel they are very relatable. The characters are close to reality. No sugarcoating, no heroism (this is for me. I should not expect a hero out of Virat), karma playing silently. It feels so much real and thats when you appreciate the story. Yesterday I was so disappointed at Virat in the way he was trying to move on with Pakhi, and conveying the same to Ashwini. Today, we seen him completely as Sai's husband. Not an inch moved. Even Sai, not an inch moved. Pakhi, scrambling her way through Karma. I dont know seriously whether they are putting so much though to it. But I am writing what I observed/felt.

Agree. Either it is inconsistent writing or there is more that meets the eye. Either they are trying to confuse us, or they have so much hidden, that they don't know how to show it. Or we are simply not able to read and are in for a surprise. I doubt the last part though

Virat, is using Pakhi. True. But it is not intentionally. It is like taken for grantedness. To explain better, think of a person who lived close to you who has always wronged you. Has no self respect. Pursued you shamelessly. You know so much 'dark' stuff about that person, and if you are doing some 'ehsaan' on that person, how will you feel. A really genuine, saint like person will not treat him/her any differently, especially if that person is changed. But for normal people who are not always in their best behavior, will take them for granted. Or not care about their feelings. Wrong them knowingly/unknowingly and not even care about it or feel guilty about it. I felt exactly like that looking at Virat's behavior towards Pakhi today.

He didnt accept that he used her, but didnt apologize also. He didnt even care! He reprimanded her for buying that ring as a family member. He would have done that with karishma also. He was upset that Sai sold the ring, so much so we can see his response directly to Sai the next morning. He was Very upset. Then when he comes to bed, he was lost in Jaggy giving money to Sai. Either he is thinking about Sai's need for money or his dirty thoughts about Jags acquaintance with Sai. He was lost in her thoughts, unable to sleep. When he hears pakhi though, his immediate reaction was to ask for her safety, rather worriedly. This reaction has more history I felt. Lets not go there. When he said she knows why she is upset, pakhi is shocked and looks at him expectantly. But he is so superficial 🤣. He said you brought the ring and I scolded you! 😃He doesnt stop there, he goes to sing praises about his wife's self respect. It indirectly showed me how inconsiderate he is towards Pakhi's self respect, because he never saw her behaving like one. Thats what I tried to tell in the above paragraph. When a person subconsciously knows that the person he is dealing with never behaved like one having self respect, he would not expect her to feel bad at his behavior at jewelry store. He would feel like she wants my company, I gave it to her and she should be happy. I think thats what Virat's meaning of giving Pakhi's share of haq and happiness meant. The name and company. Not the rights and companionship.

Good Perspective Sadhika. I get the crux of what your are trying to say here. To add to this, if V has not entirely forgiven P for her past, but is cognisant of her change, then he is taking his liberties as she her actions are her penance. So, when she is freely giving herself, is not an act of selflessness but her atonement. And she is nothing more to him

Pakhi tries to explain him that he hurt her with his behavior but he denies. Not sure if it is P1 or P2, but anyone would feel bad to be used like that. But that is her karma biting her. How she used Samrat. She is facing it first hand.

He does a lip service of saying she stood strong by him. If you see the way he says it, it doesnt appear genuine. It is like comforting her or shutting her so she ends the discussions. Next moment, he escapes from her and sleeps. Pakhi is herself confused what ehsaan she did, all she did was due to her love!! So her taking care of Vinu is for Virat then? Mera baccha mera baccha is all fake?

Now I dont want to talk about Chavanese, the disgusting and selfish scum. Ashwini had hurt Savi. Tomorrow she will drown her in her tears and mucus. So nothing new there. What is highlight for me is how SaiRat's family is there to live in the moment of Vinu's milestone. Everyone present there is pure love. Sai kisses him like his aai. Virat is over the top. I like how Savi helps her brother walk. Everytime she holds him with her two hands.

Like the Savi Kidnapping sequence, this was again one scene where it was back to V-Sai and their family. It seemed like they keep going rounds. Making us believe that V-P are going strong, they are a unit now, and Chavans are one big happy gloating family. And then in between reminding us that..Sai-V and their family does exist. They don't want us to go just one way.

Now, Virat Sai Chavan comes into the picture. Goes gaga over his wife, takes her hands and even caresses on the finger missing the ring. Gets pissed off, Sai observes it. (did she?) and tries to walk off. This scene is a delight to watch, especially if you see it in succession with how he was thinking about her the previous night, explaining to Pakhi about Sai as someone who knows her in and out and then how he behaves as he used to behave with Sai on their best days. they are deliberately showing the closeness and comfort. If this is good writing which evoke right emotions, what happens to other episodes? Are they showing something there too? I dont know. I didnt understand Pakhi or Virat in the hospital episodes at all. They are behaving like a couple...but today they are like strangers. There has to be something missing. It cant be incoherent writing. I will wait for other reviews to keep more hope.

PS: Virat was doing hamara bacha jaap today. Is it a blooper or plot point I mean he never did that before.

This kind of stood out for me. Him saying it multiple times. Was it like a conscious tactic to ease his heart, something to make him walk the path that he is so desperately trying to move on, but his heart is not letting him? Because all this while when he says things in the flow, it used to be "mera beta" naturally coming to his mouth.

Originally posted by: Swaydheenta

Wow. This track is really good. And, as much as we know chawans, this should definitely happen.

What i want is, yes, sai should break ALL THE TIES with them and leave with swag and anger.

Her dialogues should be 'aaj se main iss parivaar ke har sadasya se rishta todti hu,

Iss parivaar ne mujhe paraya kardiya, Mara hua maan liya, ya phir kabhi apna maana hi nahi,

Toh, phir aajse main bhi, iss ghar se rishta todti hu,

Ab main aur meri beti, yahan kabhi nahi aayenge.

Yeh meri taraf se ek chhota sa anniversary gift hai'.

I believe it will be a good track if the creatives allow Sai to keep her Self-respect.

See, today V explained to P how much Sai's self-respect means to her to the point

where will not seek help from anyone.

I really want Sai to explode on them in front of all their guest.

If it happens as you say, BK will need to give a lot of answers to her party member and everyone else.

Her women empowerment speech will be up in smoke😆

Update: Karishma has the recording, she will surely use it at some point.

There has to be a reason she recorded the speech of BK the great.

Originally posted by: Moor278

You are terming me who started watching ITV in lock down as Guru??? Khair you are on S1 S2 mode today so I will excuse that 🤣

SaiRat are softening... rather V is softening. I just PMed you in the morning na... fatherhood it is ❤️

I don't know if Sai already knows about congenital illness, maybe she does after reading the file. I think V will presume that she stopped him to talk about the ring but it has to be something that will make them go to orphanage.

Meri weird theory main BK has a major plot point to serve. Dekhte hai vo hota hai kya 😆

But that visit has to yield something otherwise all 4 main characters won't be there. Some hint, some clue about Vinu. Only known to these 3/4.

Anniversary party will go as planned as they won't be sure and won't be able to reveal it to everyone as of yet. Certainly not in front of the kids. Hence the apologetic looks from VP in promo.

Thats my take. 👍🏼

Sai knowing about V's adoption had to be the first step. We knew that Sai will forgive V with just that reasoning. But for Sai to still maintain her distance, she had to go back to her belief that V-P were meant to be together and their first love was their eternal love. Now Sai is sure on that part. While she will be a lil more accommodating and considerate, she will still have the boundaries and the walls around her heart high.

Though I have my doubts on if there is something good coming out of the anniversary track, and not Sai torture, I have a slight hope that BK throwing a a big party may backfire.

If she is planning to throw a lavish party it means more people will arrive and they might come under the radar of the authority who would start investigating the illegal adoption and the marriage angle. Though Vinu & Savi's identity is not revealed, they will be forced to act as a family. But I don't know if that happens how will they convince the kids?

Originally posted by: Sherry24

Sai knowing about V's adoption had to be the first step. We knew that Sai will forgive V with just that reasoning. But for Sai to still maintain her distance, she had to go back to her belief that V-P were meant to be together and their first love was their eternal love. Now Sai is sure on that part. While she will be a lil more accommodating and considerate, she will still have the boundaries and the walls around her heart high.

Though I have my doubts on if there is something good coming out of the anniversary track, and not Sai torture, I have a slight hope that BK throwing a a big party may backfire.

If she is planning to throw a lavish party it means more people will arrive and they might come under the radar of the authority who would start investigating the illegal adoption and the marriage angle. Though Vinu & Savi's identity is not revealed, they will be forced to act as a family. But I don't know if that happens how will they convince the kids?

Yes I wrote something similar.

Pakhi might lose it if she finds few more instances of Virat lying thorugh his teeth. One side he is denying Sai and the other side there is unhidden passion for her. And if she feels she is being used again, especially on anniversary party, then she might crumble like a cookie and reveal what Virat has gone through during the separation and how he still avoids her. Sai might hear it. She is already melted with adoption news and if she finds Virat didnt move on with Pakhi, in a vulnerable moment to stop him from moving NOW, she might blurt out Savi's truth.

She cant just forget her feelings for Virat. It is impossible. She still loves him. So in her weak moment, to get him back she might blurt out. She puts a brave face, no doubt. She will not be happy about the "marriage" thing, but just the fact that he was greiving her loss, lost in her and did not move on will make her succumb to her feelings. So she might use Savi here. And Virat will also come to know of her feelings though he would turn extremely angry. A person can be vulnerable while being strong. She might not pursue him, but might lose gaurd for a moment and might stop him from moving on. It is very natural I feel. I dont think it has anything to do with values, selfrespect or courage. It is a moment where she succumbs to her love for him. Like a woman, wife. To want him back if she has a chance. It is a beautiful way to show her need for Virat, if she still loves him. IMO

The biggest test is for Virat to prove that he is worthy of this chance that Sai might give him! How will he prove his unwillingness to move on with pakhi. The marriage itself?

Originally posted by: sadiltl

Yes I wrote something similar.

Pakhi might lose it if she finds few more instances of Virat lying thorugh his teeth. One side he is denying Sai and the other side there is unhidden passion for her. And if she feels she is being used again, especially on anniversary party, then she might crumble like a cookie and reveal what Virat has gone through during the separation and how he still avoids her. Sai might hear it. She is already melted with adoption news and if she finds Virat didnt move on with Pakhi, in a vulnerable moment to stop him from moving NOW, she might blurt out Savi's truth.

She cant just forget her feelings for Virat. It is impossible. She still loves him. So in her weak moment, to get him back she might blurt out. She puts a brave face, no doubt. She will not be happy about the "marriage" thing, but just the fact that he was greiving her loss, lost in her and did not move on will make her succumb to her feelings. So she might use Savi here. And Virat will also come to know of her feelings though he would turn extremely angry. A person can be vulnerable while being strong. She might not pursue him, but might lose gaurd for a moment and might stop him from moving on. It is very natural I feel. I dont think it has anything to do with values, selfrespect or courage. It is a moment where she succumbs to her love for him. Like a woman, wife. To want him back if she has a chance. It is a beautiful way to show her need for Virat, if she still loves him. IMO

meant to tag you nutty. saw your post where you mentioned that both wanted to get back together. I too feel it will be a natural feeling when the MUs slowly clear. But Virat has a bigger mess to clean up, the marriage with Pakhi

Virat will reveal about the adoption.

Sai's decision of not revealing about savi will get more firm, as she doesn't want to theaten vinayak's position.

Originally posted by: Moor278

This scene warmed my heart so much... especially V ka reaction...👍🏼

This scene is why I have been harping about ki Vinu ka revelation pehle hoga to it would be better for SaiRat. He will be receptive to Sai ke troubles and her justification of hiding Saavi from him.

This is his joy at seeing Vinu kick. Imagine the bliss with Sai included if they find out this their Vinu...

V behaved exactly how I imagine he will... ❤️

Indeed a very good scene and well enacted.

I partially agree with you on the revelation Moor. But not completely.

Compare Vinu and Savi's truth (assuming Vinu is the real Vinayak),

Vinu - His truth can be broken into two parts. One that he is adopted, something that is known to the Chavans, but not to Sai. The other one is concealed from everyone (P still on the suspect list).

Savi - On the other hand for Savi the only part that needs to be revealed to the Chavans is Savi being V's daughter.

So I feel it will be a stage-wise revelation of each truth, and not a complete revelation about Vinu. So it will be Vinu's adoption, followed by Savi's parentage and then finally Vinu's true identity as Sai-V's son.

For Sai to maintain her distance from V the MU has been built up on V-P relationship already, Vinu's adoption will only soften Sai to a certain extent where she will have a boundary with V as P's husband. This will be the first step towards each other in whatever small manner. V will cause damage more over the course, that is given for him to be be digging a deeper grave for himself.

This should be followed by Savi's parentage.

Why Savi's paternity revelation before Vinu's parentage?

Similar to Sai, they have brought in JM MU for V. So even if he melts over Savi's truth, he will still hold that grudge against Sai. And this anger towards Sai will also make him accuse her of keeping Savi away from him, which he wouldn't have otherwise, or would not hold on for long. So this connects them beyond Doctor and Patient's family relationship. Or else Sai would just leave.

Before leap we all had so many discussions around Sai not leaving CN as she will not leave her child and go. But today circumstances have changed. Now there is huge guilt that she is living with. And seeing how the dynamics have changed, she would not stake her claims on Vinu, unless she feels there is any danger to him. But she will see none. Only the love and bond of father-son

So how will Sai and Savi be stopped from leaving. It has to be Savi's truth.

Now coming to other aspects.

We know the shallowness of Chavans. Blood and male child is their fav rap song in that order. If Vinu's parentage is revealed before Savi, she will hold no importance, except for V. Even if it comes to stem cells, it will be as selfish as "Use and throw". They would be willing to let go off Savi than accept Sai. Thats how much they hate Sai. So for Savi to gain that stature in CN, it has to be her identity as the Chavan blood that needs to be revealed first.

Secondly, there is a very important point that needs to be addressed. The "Orphan" taunt. It is not just about the Chavans' regret. It is about Vinu understanding Sai's pain. I have spoken about how both kids are a good mix of their parents, however their surface character is more like the parent they have lived with, but the less displayed side is a reflection of the other parent. Vinu is like Sai. He seldom shares his pain, his feelings. He may be seemingly softer than Savi, but he is strong enough to not reveal his hurt like Sai. Both hold a lot inside them. Unlike Savi and V who are open books when it comes to emotions. Vinu and Savi have to become those confidantes for each other.

Vinu may favour Sai once he knows he is his mother. But for him to stand strong for her, against his own father, for name calling her as orphan, he has to understand her pain, share that pain. So before the Mother-Son bond, it has to be bond on this aspect. This will happen when Savi starts getting that acceptance and importance. Vinu's insecurity might kick in. Also, the negligence and favouritism from Chavans will make him more aware of his adopted status. P can manipulate, but she will never understand Vinu here. Sai is the only one who can fill the gap, and soothe his heart. This bond will only strengthen their relationship when he knows that Sai is his mother.

And Vinu will emerge stronger to stand for his mother against everyone when they accuse Sai and call her names. V-Sai may be major characters, but it has to be the kids who will really be the show stoppers. Vinu will so what V could not. Stand for his family, for his mother. And for that courage this is what is needed. Or else, at this point he is not that vocal to voice his opinions so strongly. He needs to understand and feel his mother's pain to make him stand up so strongly for her.

Originally posted by: Swaydheenta

Virat will reveal about the adoption.

Sai's decision of of revealing about savi will get more firm, as she doesn't want to theaten vinayak's position.

Ye spoiler hai kya ? Yan guess ?

Originally posted by: Moor278

I agree... Saavi CN main ho aur drama na ho aisa ho nahi sakta. V will divert the convo. He has too... itni to laaj rakh le uski Vanku...😡

V staying quiet is the logical option. Because he doesn't know and he cannot claim he is the father aise hi ... that would be too wrong.

But but but... what if this jab jalaos his 💡 ???

Will he remember "Virat hamari bacchhi ko bachao!!!!"😎

Or better...

Sai had pep talked Vinu... to have courage to stand up for your family .... what if Vinu rebukes everyone and says Saavi is my sister

Which is better? 😳

I'm in for the latter. V needs to see the courage shown by his kids to understand what a loser he is. Tab jaake chullu bhar paani ki yaad ayegi. Doobega ya tairega wo to time will tell.🤣

Originally posted by: Swaydheenta

Except surrogacy track. Pakhi's character had some intensity and a lot of it when they WERE following KD.

It could've been an amazing grey/dark grey character.

An insecure, obsessed woman, who couldn't get the love of her life.

That 'Junoon aisa ki khudko jala de'.

But, actress is failing a big time and they ruined her character way too much for the drama during the surrogacy track.

Her original character arc was lost.

Every character was compromised in this track but pakhi's character and how she actually was completely changed and ruined.

She was never this vile or a vamp. She was more of an insecure woman, who kept reminding virst of breaking his promise and we could understand her POV too.

But, they literally took that away during surrogacy track.

Now, that she's finally back to her original form, it's getting hard to believe.

And, we're so suspicious of her.

If only she was not turned into a TYPICAL ITV VAMP, then we would've had some more sympathy and her behaviour would've been believable.

She was more like 'virat ke liye, main kuch bhi kar sakti hu' but also in a wrong way, but still so much better than the surrogacy track.

They took that 'kuch bhi kar sakti hu' in a very wrong way and turned her into a typical itv vamp, who's extremely vile and ruined sai's life.

That's not ORIGINAL PAKHI.

Her obsession was limited to WORDS AND SMALL ACTIONS.

Not such huge crimes.

True. There are a few factors that can be attributed to the fall of this character.

Whenever I have to talk about P's overall character and the arc, I get reminded of V-Sai's wedding, the Car scene when they returning from GC and the initial convo between Sai-P when she is getting her ready.

I truly felt sorry for her character. In fact, I would not even say I felt more sorry for Sai at that time.

But over a period of time, the whole outlook changed towards P. Yes, her turning vile did contribute to it. However, I cannot solely blame it on that aspect. The way she changed, her actions and how her character deteriorated and the actions became more cringy and indecent all had a role to play. But her acting took the cake. It is one thing to be a vamp and it is another to appear completely filthy and dirty in the actions and words....and body language.