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I'm just praying Sai shudnt go to CN to treat Vinu bcoz Virat saved Savi...think that's going to happen 😭

As I said in another thread a new spoiler is doing the round that porky will reunite sai.rat before dying. If it is true then they are going to show more cringe scenes between pakrat. Probably they will even show their consummation and porky pregnant and giving the child to Sai to look after and then the generation leap will start. Mrs bhatt is never going to leave the show until she gets everything that is exclusive to the character of Sai . She managed to become viratt's wife . Now she will become his love and mother of his child . Such an insecure and jeleous human. This is only my personal opinion. With this the show won't end only the season2 will start. They can show Sai/ Virat dying and cn people raising the kids. Mr and Mrs bhatt will leave the show together. They can retain Ayasha by playing Sai’s daughter.

Harini's question to Chavanese

"If Virat mama loves Sai mami so much, then why did he marry Patralekha?"

Just for adoption? How lame. Will we get any good answer for this?

Feeling sad for Sai 🥹🥹🥹

Last time had high hopes from Virat when he wakes up, now we know how it will be.. 😞😞😞

Can they not show something sensible for once? 😔😔😔😔

Touch…Expression…Boundaries

PS – I watched the episode in bits and this may not exactly be an episode analysis completely. Cheesed off...trying to be saner..bear with me on this one. Checked a few comments, but didn’t read them. Sorry, still in cooling off process..will respond tomorrow.

Marriage as an institution is a means to legalize a relationship.. to make someone an intimate family by law. But unlike marriage, there are relationships that accompany us through our birth and can have an automatic legal extension to it. Wondering what is the connect I’m trying make here? When we are born, we are placed in the hands of people older and experienced, to be protected as we are too naïve for the worldly ways. I know we have exceptions here, but on a generic level, nature developed such dynamics for us. Again, for a reason. We feel safe, we are dependent on them for our needs, as we are incapable or feel we are not capable to manage on our own. But as we grow, as we learn, and we feel that we have learnt to learn, the very support seems an interference. What is that itch that we all have at times, even with the closest of people in our life, when we feel they are stepping over? Boundary! It is ironical, that we say our relationships are transparent, we are one, there is nothing to hide between us, yet there is a part of us that we hold only to ourselves. We have a boundary in each of our relationships, the closer they are, the smaller the proximity circle. But…there is always one. Each relationship in unique and each individual defines their own boundary. Problem arises when others do not respect that boundary….because it needs to be respected! And this applies on all levels and not just physical aspect.

Each one has their own way of expressing their emotions. Love is no different. A kid, holding the tip of his/her mom’s saree to follow her around or clinging to her neck like a monkey are both expressions of love. While the former lacks a physical touch it is as good an expression of love as the latter.

Today, Sai expressed her love through a hand hold, P did that with kisses. A form of touch that was their means of conveying/expressing their love/emotions respectively. Nothing wrong with either. Then, what is wrong here?

Crisis plays with our mind, our senses. A vulnerable, emotionally challenging situation can bring out the most deeply hidden feelings of our heart. An argument, or anger loses its prominence as love takes over. Sai was worried, as a woman who is still deeply in love with V, as the mother of his child who had saved her without knowing the truth. She is cognisant of this, and hence grateful too.

But Sai was bound by the fact that Virat is married to someone else, so she respected a certain boundary that comes with that aspect. While, in her heart she may have seen V’s anger arising from love, but her mind refuses to acknowledge it. His own mannerism and behavior with her, may vouch for certain liberties despite their changed equations. Even in this tussle, there was a balance, a respect that the boundaries (if any) are not crossed.

(Is it me, or anyone noticed the focus on the ring on V's finger?. Will that have any prominence, as it may come up in Sai's recollection later?)

P has no such restrictions, and she enjoys certain rights through her marital status with V. Her expression of love is not questionable as the wife, but she disrespected the boundary defined by V. Especially when he was unconscious and incapable of halting her actions, P the conscious one, fully aware of his stand on it. Clearly a breach of trust, boundary and consensus.

Where is V wrong in it? He is not directly at fault given his unconscious state. But he is responsible indirectly for giving P that hope, that right, that space and that leeway to enter his personal zone. That freedom, that in his incapacitated state she can override his choice and freedom and take those calls on his behalf.

Quick mentions on the scenes

Endearments – Mera Pati, mera bacha had such a weird ring to it. Her supposed family is in danger and she is busy claiming her stakes. @Sadhika I again feel vibrations of mental ailment here. If I ignore the pathetically comical acting, she is supposedly freaking out like an obsessed woman. The fear that their lives are in danger in driving her crazy, so what will be her state if she knows that she is at risk of losing them to Sai? If she is not negative yet (which I doubt), this incident will make her realise that she can’t lose them. An indicator to us, that she will be going vile to keep them to herself.

Sai – She was just about coming to terms with the fact that V is married with a kid, when she is struck with another blow. She was worried for his life, grateful that he risked his life to save Savi. But knowing that he has not just moved on, but has moved on with P, is the biggest form of betrayal that V could have given her. Seeing P kissing V and Vinu calling her Mumma, gave a perfect family picture of V-P to Sai. It was very heartbreaking to see her like this. She would have been hurt, if it was someone else too, but here she felt cheated. Her marriage to him now seems like a complete lie and her doubts have come true. P was always more important than her! She was always so easily dispensable. That was emotionally draining to watch.

Sai is sorted and mature. She will now maintain her stern demeanour (while she may be completely broken inside), but she will hold that gratitude for him for saving Savi. This may become the “negotiation point” later when the time comes for her to choose between her self- respect over repayment of his favours. And I dread that part too. She will give in.

UM – Is the woman even in her senses? The audience has the background, but she doesn’t. For her, V is married, yet she is wishing for them to be united. Well, she fell flat on her face later. Seems like she saw P and hence was standing speechless when Sai returned.

Is it possible, that P saw UM and connected the dots (the familiar voice, Savi etc?) And she purposely acted up knowing Sai was behind the door watching it?

Jagtap – He will be back with the medicine just in time to see a heartbroken Sai. V will also gain consciousness at the exact time, and look out for Sai, only to draw his conclusions on S-Jagtap. While he is wrong in doing so, it may be needed for him to feel the same pain that Sai will be going through. He just got a taste of it now, she has been living with it, since they were married.

P will be the spectator, watching and reading it all, to capitalise on this situation.

Savi’s truth will not be revealed, but P will guess it (if she hasn’t already).

Family is also planning to arrive, and I also see a political angle with BK and GR in picture.

With all this, destiny and timing are in P’s favour. She is privy to all crucial facts, even the ones unknown to one or more parties. She can easily plan her moves, to play this to her advantage.

Sai driving the car was a parallel to the scene when she went in search of medicines for V during SH track. The family had accused and abandoned her then. They will do the same here. Now they have a long list already in parking.

Understanding these advantages, P might ask Sai to divorce V, and set him free. So that Vinu retains his legitimate status and V can lead a happy married life. Sai will agree, for Vinu’s sake, for repaying her debt to V and for completely breaking ties with the man who betrayed her in love. For her, there is nothing to lose now.

Savi and Vinu – They are a team of sorts. Filling up the gaps as siblings. Savi is like Sai. She has raised her well, to be independent and to act wisely during crisis. Vinu, on the other hand, stores things inside him. It represents the timidness, probably arising from the fact that he knows he is adopted, and is hesitant to speak his heart for the fear of being ungrateful or too demanding. The pampering and saccharine showered for being V’s lifeline isn’t helping his cause. His strengths currently can only be credited to his genes (even if he is not Sai-V’s son). But the boy is smitten by his doctor aunty. He will have some stories to narrate about her, like Savi will have about V. How this affects the narration is to be seen, since this can only establish that Sai saved V. Like in SH track Sai saved V by getting the medicine, bit she was blamed for putting his life in danger. And for V, he knows well about Sai's professional commitment. What he doesn't believe is her love for him. IDIOT of the highest order.

Bappa and family return. Everyone praying for V’s recovery, to ensure that the “Happy Family” stays happy. But Bappa and family will decide the composition of this family. (I hate the fact that Vankar is the form of divine intervention here, as his credibility can’t be trusted😡).

I wish this had gone the memory loss way. Though very predictable, it would have still been watchable. If V had partial amnesia, where he only recalls till he heard about Sai’s accident, Chavans and P will be forced to get Sai to CN as V’s wife. She may come to return the favours. With V’s past history after assuming Sai to be dead, the doctor’s could have advised to keep V away from any mental stress and Chavans would concede. While Sai supposedly, lost her right in CN and on V, courtesy V’s marriage with P, she will have them back with this situation. She may not claim them, but she will have them. Just like the deal marriage period. This would have been ideal, as Sai will see and feel V’s love for her through experience and not mere recount of words. @Sadhika – even if partially, this to some extent covers for the part that we discussed about that dent in that relationship, with the probability doubt that V is capable of moving on. Atleast his regret and longing could have healed some wounds for her. Rest he could have explained when he regained his memory. She could have become aloof when he regained his memory and left him. Because, V and Chavans have to pay the price for all their mistakes.

V and Sai will MU. However, how fatal/irreversible V’s actions and reactions will be, till the MU lasts is what is concerning. Only if UM can walk up and slap the shit out of V and P, cursing herself to force Sai into this marriage, for ruining her life. And accuse V of infidelity. In this bid speak out Sai’s state after the scene she encountered. UM should reveal that part to V. But… I doubt the possibility. Unfortunately she is stuck on Kapus. My only hope is Jagtap here!

Another brilliant review! Today the reviews here gave me some courage to watch the episode.

I agree with everyone's review. But still adding my perspective...may be it might come true 🤞

Yes, not everything is alright with Pakhi. Something is amiss. Just watch Mohit! The actor is bad I know but he is not comfortable around Pakhi vahini. While she was kissing Virat and overacting for Vinu, there is 'something' on Mohit's face. helplessness?

Her behavior is erratic for sure. I dont know why I cant let go of my confidence on Virat yet! It doesnt stick. We have seen how he nurtured his love for Sai with care and patience. I cant fathom he will throw it all away on Patralekha!! Why I am back to this is because of 2 reasons

1. Harini's question 3 episodes back is very important. She said how come a person who loves Sai so much can marry Patralekha? I know the FBs are there. But there must be some strong reason....

2. Pakhi even in her P2 form didnt cross her boundaries. She did hug him lightly during the fight but she apologized. This kiss is definitely not under her control! Or if sherry is correct and she is negative, she has put 2 and 2 together when she saw UM?! Very less likely but the kiss doesnt define their status...either in P1 or P2 form. She must be in some 'zone' to do that.

I felt terribly bad for Sai. But all my tears were used up when I read the reviews here. So my eyes didnt tear up when I watched. Yes it will make her heart steel till Virat melts it for him...I dont know how!! The marriage itself is a big betrayal. But still he could have orchestrated it! I have close to zero hope but still trusting Rono here and Harini's question.

PS: OMG, I have not cried for Sai like this before! May be they shot the kiss scene to bring these emotions in us. Virat better make it up for this heartbreak.

Originally posted by: sadiltl

Another brilliant review! Today the reviews here gave me some courage to watch the episodes.

I agree with everyone's review.

Yes, not everything is alright with Pakhi. Something is amiss. Just watch Mohit! The actor is bad I know but he is not comfortable around Pakhi vahini. While she was kissing Virat and overacting for Vinu, there is 'something' on Mohit's face. helplessness?

Her behavior is erratic for sure. I dont know why I cant let go of my confidence on Virat yet! It doesnt stick. We have seen how he nurtured his love for Sai with care and patience. I cant fathom he will throw it all away on Patralekha!! Why I am back to this is because 2 reasons

1. Harini's question 3 days back is very important. She said how come a person who loves Sai so much can marry Patralekha? I know the FBs are there. But there must be some strong reason....

2. Pakhi even in her P2 form didnt cross her boundaries. She did hug him lightly during the fight but she apologized. This kiss is definitely not under her control! Or if sherry is correct and she is negative, she has put 2 and 2 together when she saw UM?! Very less likely but the kiss doesnt define their status...either in P1 or P2 form. She must be in some 'zone' to do that.

I felt terribly bad at Sai. But all my tears are used when I read the reviews here. So my eyes didnt tear up when I watched. Yes it will make her heart steel till Virat melts it for him...I dont know how!! The marriage itself is a big betrayal. But still he could have orchestrated it! I have close to zero hope but still trusting Rono here and Harini's question.

PS: OMG, I have not cried for Sai for Ghum like this before! May be they shot the kiss scene to bring these emotions in us. Virat better make it up for this heartbreak.

tags dont work

Originally posted by: Moor278

I don't think Sherry is watching this one. She said she will skip 😔

Did manage a scribble with the not so positive state of mind 😉. Tagged. Read at your own risk

Originally posted by: Sherry24

Touch…Expression…Boundaries

PS – I watched the episode in bits and this may not exactly be an episode analysis completely. Cheesed off...trying to be saner..bear with me on this one. Checked a few comments, but didn’t read them. Sorry, still in cooling off process..will respond tomorrow.

Marriage as an institution is a means to legalize a relationship.. to make someone an intimate family by law. But unlike marriage, there are relationships that accompany us through our birth and can have an automatic legal extension to it. Wondering what is the connect I’m trying make here? When we are born, we are placed in the hands of people older and experienced, to be protected as we are too naïve for the worldly ways. I know we have exceptions here, but on a generic level, nature developed such dynamics for us. Again, for a reason. We feel safe, we are dependent on them for our needs, as we are incapable or feel we are not capable to manage on our own. But as we grow, as we learn, and we feel that we have learnt to learn, the very support seems an interference. What is that itch that we all have at times, even with the closest of people in our life, when we feel they are stepping over? Boundary! It is ironical, that we say our relationships are transparent, we are one, there is nothing to hide between us, yet there is a part of us that we hold only to ourselves. We have a boundary in each of our relationships, the closer they are, the smaller the proximity circle. But…there is always one. Each relationship in unique and each individual defines their own boundary. Problem arises when others do not respect that boundary….because it needs to be respected! And this applies on all levels and not just physical aspect.

Each one has their own way of expressing their emotions. Love is no different. A kid, holding the tip of his/her mom’s saree to follow her around or clinging to her neck like a monkey are both expressions of love. While the former lacks a physical touch it is as good an expression of love as the latter.

Today, Sai expressed her love through a hand hold, P did that with kisses. A form of touch that was their means of conveying/expressing their love/emotions respectively. Nothing wrong with either. Then, what is wrong here?

Crisis plays with our mind, our senses. A vulnerable, emotionally challenging situation can bring out the most deeply hidden feelings of our heart. An argument, or anger loses its prominence as love takes over. Sai was worried, as a woman who is still deeply in love with V, as the mother of his child who had saved her without knowing the truth. She is cognisant of this, and hence grateful too.

But Sai was bound by the fact that Virat is married to someone else, so she respected a certain boundary that comes with that aspect. While, in her heart she may have seen V’s anger arising from love, but her mind refuses to acknowledge it. His own mannerism and behavior with her, may vouch for certain liberties despite their changed equations. Even in this tussle, there was a balance, a respect that the boundaries (if any) are not crossed.

(Is it me, or anyone noticed the focus on the ring on V's finger?. Will that have any prominence, as it may come up in Sai's recollection later?)

P has no such restrictions, and she enjoys certain rights through her marital status with V. Her expression of love is not questionable as the wife, but she disrespected the boundary defined by V. Especially when he was unconscious and incapable of halting her actions, P the conscious one, fully aware of his stand on it. Clearly a breach of trust, boundary and consensus.

This part is excellently put. Yes they are in a marriage(?🤞) which gives certain rights to be in personal space. But he didnt give her any permission. They are not even in friend zone. If he asked for maldives trip, then also as friends. Yes, we can compare it with anniversary kiss Virat gave when Sai was asleep. At that time there were discussions whether it is breach of consent. I answered back then that it was not because Virat was not planning to take it any forward. They had pretty good bond, even as friends and couple who fought. Leaving aside their marriage, Virat had the needed affection which was independent of their relationship to give a peck on her cheek. Above all, he hoped to confess his feelings the next day, pretty confident that she will not reject him. They had a history of one year that defined their 'love' which gave him the unspoken consent. But here, there is no history nor the feelings nor reciprocation at any level.. Hence I said it is breach of consent. Pakhi in her P2 form where she behaved as his wife also will not do this. This is something else, that got aggravated due to the situation he was in. She was not in control.

Where is V wrong in it? He is not directly at fault given his unconscious state. But he is responsible indirectly for giving P that hope, that right, that space and that leeway to enter his personal zone. That freedom, that in his incapacitated state she can override his choice and freedom and take those calls on his behalf.

Quick mentions on the scenes

Endearments – Mera Pati, mera bacha had such a weird ring to it. Her supposed family is in danger and she is busy claiming her stakes. @Sadhika I again feel vibrations of mental ailment here. If I ignore the pathetically comical acting, she is supposedly freaking out like an obsessed woman. The fear that their lives are in danger in driving her crazy, so what will be her state if she knows that she is at risk of losing them to Sai? If she is not negative yet (which I doubt), this incident will make her realise that she can’t lose them. An indicator to us, that she will be going vile to keep them to herself.

Sai – She was just about coming to terms with the fact that V is married with a kid, when she is struck with another blow. She was worried for his life, grateful that he risked his life to save Savi. But knowing that he has not just moved on, but has moved on with P, is the biggest form of betrayal that V could have given her. Seeing P kissing V and Vinu calling her Mumma, gave a perfect family picture of V-P to Sai. It was very heartbreaking to see her like this. She would have been hurt, if it was someone else too, but here she felt cheated. Her marriage to him now seems like a complete lie and her doubts have come true. P was always more important than her! She was always so easily dispensable. That was emotionally draining to watch.

Sai is sorted and mature. She will now maintain her stern demeanour (while she may be completely broken inside), but she will hold that gratitude for him for saving Savi. This may become the “negotiation point” later when the time comes for her to choose between her self- respect over repayment of his favours. And I dread that part too. She will give in.

UM – Is the woman even in her senses? The audience has the background, but she doesn’t. For her, V is married, yet she is wishing for them to be united. Well, she fell flat on her face later. Seems like she saw P and hence was standing speechless when Sai returned.

Is it possible, that P saw UM and connected the dots (the familiar voice, Savi etc?) And she purposely acted up knowing Sai was behind the door watching it?

Jagtap – He will be back with the medicine just in time to see a heartbroken Sai. V will also gain consciousness at the exact time, and look out for Sai, only to draw his conclusions on S-Jagtap. While he is wrong in doing so, it may be needed for him to feel the same pain that Sai will be going through. He just got a taste of it now, she has been living with it, since they were married.

This part I liked a lot. She called him only for protecting her husband who she loved and saved his own child without knowing that he is her father! That selfless act purely from his love for Sai, or as human being made her do that call. And Sid was phenomenal. As Moor or someone mentioned, he might ask Savi to call him mama to remove doubts from Virat's mind. He might be obligated to Sai to not reveal the truth to him but could convey it indirectly. But will it strike our thickhead?

P will be the spectator, watching and reading it all, to capitalise on this situation.

Savi’s truth will not be revealed, but P will guess it (if she hasn’t already).

Family is also planning to arrive, and I also see a political angle with BK and GR in picture.

With all this, destiny and timing are in P’s favour. She is privy to all crucial facts, even the ones unknown to one or more parties. She can easily plan her moves, to play this to her advantage.

Sai driving the car was a parallel to the scene when she went in search of medicines for V during SH track. The family had accused and abandoned her then. They will do the same here. Now they have a long list already in parking.

Understanding these advantages, P might ask Sai to divorce V, and set him free. So that Vinu retains his legitimate status and V can lead a happy married life. Sai will agree, for Vinu’s sake, for repaying her debt to V and for completely breaking ties with the man who betrayed her in love. For her, there is nothing to lose now.

Savi and Vinu – They are a team of sorts. Filling up the gaps as siblings. Savi is like Sai. She has raised her well, to be independent and to act wisely during crisis. Vinu, on the other hand, stores things inside him. It represents the timidness, probably arising from the fact that he knows he is adopted, and is hesitant to speak his heart for the fear of being ungrateful or too demanding. The pampering and saccharine showered for being V’s lifeline isn’t helping his cause. His strengths currently can only be credited to his genes (even if he is not Sai-V’s son). But the boy is smitten by his doctor aunty. He will have some stories to narrate about her, like Savi will have about V. How this affects the narration is to be seen, since this can only establish that Sai saved V. Like in SH track Sai saved V by getting the medicine, bit she was blamed for putting his life in danger. And for V, he knows well about Sai's professional commitment. What he doesn't believe is her love for him. IDIOT of the highest order.

Bappa and family return. Everyone praying for V’s recovery, to ensure that the “Happy Family” stays happy. But Bappa and family will decide the composition of this family. (I hate the fact that Vankar is the form of divine intervention here, as his credibility can’t be trusted😡).

I wish this had gone the memory loss way. Though very predictable, it would have still been watchable. If V had partial amnesia, where he only recalls till he heard about Sai’s accident, Chavans and P will be forced to get Sai to CN as V’s wife. She may come to return the favours. With V’s past history after assuming Sai to be dead, the doctor’s could have advised to keep V away from any mental stress and Chavans would concede. While Sai supposedly, lost her right in CN and on V, courtesy V’s marriage with P, she will have them back with this situation. She may not claim them, but she will have them. Just like the deal marriage period. This would have been ideal, as Sai will see and feel V’s love for her through experience and not mere recount of words. @Sadhika – even if partially, this to some extent covers for the part that we discussed about that dent in that relationship, with the probability doubt that V is capable of moving on. Atleast his regret and longing could have healed some wounds for her. Rest he could have explained when he regained his memory. She could have become aloof when he regained his memory and left him. Because, V and Chavans have to pay the price for all their mistakes.

V and Sai will MU. However, how fatal/irreversible V’s actions and reactions will be, till the MU lasts is what is concerning. Only if UM can walk up and slap the shit out of V and P, cursing herself to force Sai into this marriage, for ruining her life. And accuse V of infidelity. In this bid speak out Sai’s state after the scene she encountered. UM should reveal that part to V. But… I doubt the possibility. Unfortunately she is stuck on Kapus. My only hope is Jagtap here!

Sai will turn cold and steel hearted. Much needed for the situation. 👍🏼. Only cheers to Sai from here on! The mess has to be untangled by Virat and make her trust him again on his love for her....sooner because she might start resenting every moment she spent with him otherwise.

Looks like the concerns/fears are unanimous

1) Ofcourse, Sai going to CN. It's the flimsiest reason to step into that house for Vinu's treatment. Self-respect is the only one Sai has got - please don't take it from her. But knowing Vankar...

2) Virat's reactions to MU-ing Jagtap-Sai. While Vankar should take care not to degrade V more (if that is possible)...my feeling is that the worst of V is yet to come.

Thank you for being so patient to watch & pen down your thoughts so beautifully @msin, @moor, @swaydheentha @sherry. Shout out to Sadika for managing to watch the episode despite her emotions 😅 & writing down her views.