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Posted: 2 years ago
#81

As I said, for me Ghum is not a moral science class, I don’t mind Virat doing that. Sai won’t come back but then she stands to gain an upper hand because legally she is still his wife

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Posted: 2 years ago
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It is hard to say what wins, legality or feelings in a one-sided/arranged marriage. Both are needed and influence each other.

When Sai and Virat were in deal marriage which is legal, Virat had his feelings over the sleeves. We can see his gutter mind through out. He was not ashamed of what he feels for Sai. The legality is there as much as feelings. He didnt shy away to show it as per Sai's comfort/consent


The legality aspect giving the freedom to express feelings, can be seen in Sai's case more clearer. As soon as her feeligns were realized, she didnt shy away to seduce him. He was angry and to the point of leaving her, but still she had the confidence that she could use all viles to stop him. It is not only her feelings, but her rights as his wife that will give her confidence. ofcourse she also knew by that time, Virat loved her. I was only talking about expressing feelings more confidently.


Lets take Pakhi. she knows virat's heart and mind is not with her. Even if they are legally married, she is unable to show her feelings. Why? There is fear. Fear of her feelings to be rebuked, looked down upon. Contrast this with Sai in post sruthi phase, she doesnt mind being looked down upon for her overtures. Because she is seducing her husband with full rights. Not sure I am making my point clearer here.

Legality/sanctity of marriage gives the confidence to go full throttle. Express your barest feelings more openly. Legality is not enough to physically get closer to a person but it is necessary to freely express.


PS: I could not express this better. But I was basicall pointing to sanctity of marriage is needed to confidently express the feelings as much as the other person's consent

Edited by sadiltl - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: sadiltl

It is hard to say what wins, legality or feelings in a one-sided/arranged marriage. Both are needed and influence each other.

When Sai and Virat were in deal marriage which is legal, Virat had his feelings over the sleeves. We can see his gutter mind through out. He was not ashamed of what he feels for Sai. The legality is there as much as feelings. He didnt shy away to show it as per Sai's comfort/consent


The legality aspect giving the freedom to express feelings, can be seen in Sai's case more clearer. As soon as her feeligns were realized, she didnt shy away to seduce him. He was angry and to the point of leaving her, but still she had the confidence that she could use all viles to stop him. It is not only her feelings, but her rights as his wife that will give her confidence. ofcourse she also knew by that time, Virat loved her. I was only talking about expressing feelings more confidently.


Lets take Pakhi. she knows virat's heart and mind is not with her. Even if they are legally married, she is unable to show her feelings. Why? There is fear. Fear of her feelings to be rebuked, looked down upon. Contrast this with Sai in post sruthi phase, she doesnt mind being looked down upon for her overtures. Because she is seducing her husband with full rights. Not sure I am making my point clearer here.

Legality/sanctity of marriage gives the confidence to go full throttle. Express your barest feelings more openly. Legality is not enough to physically get closer to a person but it is necessary to freely express.


PS: I could not express this better. But I was basicall pointing to sanctity of marriage is needed to confidently express the feelings as much as the other person's consent

Totally agree.

Also, i don't see virat melting towards her or giving her rights even if she was his wife legally.

She might actually be his wife legally but his mind is disgusted by the thought of making her his wife. For him, it's only sai.

Also, if this sindoor thing is true then it's safe enough to say that he gives her disgusting, distant looks when she mentions the marriage part and that she is his wife.

Especially that honeymoon fighr. Virat finding it ajeeb, then becoming conscious when pakhi got angry and came back to reality.

There are chances of them making their marriage legal too, as there's that photo frame.

But, virat is definitely disgusted by her being his wife and whenever she mentions about their marriage. I've noticed this.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#84

I saw that video again...first off its an assistant who said that line... so we are not sure which character is saying it.

BK saying kabhi kabhi girna bhi thik hota hai...😲


And then the line says Mami aayi... which is true... Mami to aai lekin Sai mami.... ye kisine kaha bola ki P mami aai?


Jo line main pehle khada rahega ticket to usko hi milegi na 🤪

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Posted: 2 years ago
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What I meant is proper ritualistic or proper court marriage is needed to give you the confidence that it is a marriage. That they belong together.

Rituals play an important role in sealing the deal for the couple. Generate feelings if they are not there before.

Thats why I am wondering, even if it is a court marriage :)

Because now a days everyone is going for a court marriage. Then again, it is upto the couple how much they invest their feelings in! Even a court marriage will become equivalent to ritualistic marriage if the feelings are invested.

So yeah, Virat's feelings are not there in this marriage, but legality has the power to influence the person towards making it complete. one moment of heart change is all that is needed.

That is why, I want this marriage to be devoid of legality as well as feelings. Both are troublesome as one can influence the other.

Edited by sadiltl - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
#86

This one is crucial.


We have discussed this point earlier. How rituals are made fun off, and the premonitions and signs are wrongly played to mislead audience. But P's ka sindoor hai, to shayad sach bhi ho jaaye.


Couple of things here.

Is this just to hint to the backstory, it is fine. But if it isn’t then, we can rule out "Fake" marriage here. This is similar to Sai's mangalsutra during SH track.

It could either be a sign of Sai entering V's life and it is a danger to P's wife status, or V's life in danger.

Either ways, it proves P is the wife.

If it is the latter, then it gives way to one prediction that I made. About the rehash of all scenes P vs Sai. With roles switched. Which means we will have the hospital scene after V was shot and P refused to let Sai meet V, while Sai fought for her wife rights and V ensured Sai did stay by his side.

Sai will not fight this time. And P will stay back to attend to V.


It will be sad to watch Sai walk away and P winning without even having to fight it.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Actually i meant otherwise yaar.

May be it is not legal nor santified. :) Pakhi doenst have confidence. It is not about virat's feeligns alone, it is about the way they married too.

Edited by sadiltl - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
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Wanted to get your thoughts not sure if you have already mentioned it… with the current angry V if some how He finds out Savi is his kid, I am legit worried he will torture Sai and be all the more angry on her for hiding. Will he ever realize the reason of why Sai left and then hid herself too?! I am trying to see the light at the end of the tunnel in the sense I don’t want Sai to be tormented by him taking Savi away.


they are showing too much of Vs pain and his journey but there is no glimpse of Sai’s story…. I don’t feel any positivity of V understanding Sai’s pain.

Honestly I could care less if v/P are married or not .. i think they will play the do parivaar … but hope Savi is not taken away from Sai.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Seriously. Me too. I'm started seeing S1 and S2 last night. 🤣


We have sailed through surrogacy. It was unacceptable that time. This too shall pass.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sherry24

This one is crucial.


We have discussed this point earlier. How rituals are made fun off, and the premonitions and signs are wrongly played to mislead audience. But P's ka sindoor hai, to shayad sach bhi ho jaaye.


Couple of things here.

Is this just to hint to the backstory, it is fine. But if it isn’t then, we can rule out "Fake" marriage here. This is similar to Sai's mangalsutra during SH track.

It could either be a sign of Sai entering V's life and it is a danger to P's wife status, or V's life in danger.

Either ways, it proves P is the wife.

If it is the latter, then it gives way to one prediction that I made. About the rehash of all scenes P vs Sai. With roles switched. Which means we will have the hospital scene after V was shot and P refused to let Sai meet V, while Sai fought for her wife rights and V ensured Sai did stay by his side.

Sai will not fight this time. And P will stay back to attend to V.


It will be sad to watch Sai walk away and P winning without even having to fight it.


To an extent agree but disagree as well. In the standards of ITV no one would want to watch a same story again with a role reversal. Especially if the FL is not getting the upper hand. no fun at all. Till now we have seen that the PL/Vamp (whatever you want to call it) has had the upper end. She actual won but didn't get the trophy.


Last time Pakhi entered the house in the pretext of Samrat's wife but wanted to be close to Virat. When Sai entered though Sai was his legally wedded wife, Pakhi acted as if she is. It can't go back to the same with role reversal as Sai will still have an upper hand. He didn't divorce Sai, so legally Sai will still be his wife.

Current Scenario, Pakhi is close to virat through his adopted Son (the dialogue which BK said today about the heir), as per the current situation the actual heir of CN is Savi (who is Virat's biological child). So the scenario is the same as before, Sai is actually the mother of his child but the one who will behave as she owns his child is Pakhi.

If it was only role reversal of marriage they had to do, then there was no need to children at all. This time its not only the 2 ladies, but its the 2 families. He is real family (Sai and Savi) v/s his adopted family (Pakhi and Vinu).


PS:- Dont know if I seem crazy, may be have gone crazy. But on a serious note if they really want to elevate Pakhi then please please change the actress (i beg).

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