GHKPM WU & Daily episode discussion thread #65 - Page 104

Regret...Fast forward!

Whose pants where on fire and who had ants in them??????

It is understandable that they wanted to maintain a suspense element and wanted to unveil things gradually. They may not want to show the reactions, survival mechanism and all that conspired between the leap and what led them to take whatever steps they took post the accident.

However, the mourning required more significance and longevity to it. Atleast more than 2 mins with a BGM.

If I think on the havan being performed, they didn’t show Sai's pic. They are even holding secrecy there. V regretted letting Sai go, when he found the piece of her saree. But how V has taken it all is still being kept under wraps. Does he despise Sai and hold her responsible for the mishap and him losing his son? Or did UM reach out to let them know that Sai survived or something but V was too angry to forgive. Was the havan done for the baby and not for Sai?

But despite all this there could have been some more scenes considering there was so much build up and it was a crucial part of the track. Rushed up is an understatement here.

But if this was all done for suspense, why release articles so frequently and give out the very deets?

So with the article, my one prediction seems to have come partly true. That the boy is not V's biological son. Hence it will address two very vital aspects and put BK in dilemma. Chavan blood vs Gender bias. And they very reason why Savi will hold importance for BK.

And in it’s own twisted way like most of us predicted all 3 went separate ways. P did not run away with Vinu, but he was lost in the accident. Now I do have a hunch that this child will eventually turn up to be real Vinu. But till they all realise it, they are still separated in some context.

And this will have to be revealed much later for Savi to get acceptance and importance in CN. The child maybe diagnosed with some disease and Sai will offer to donate and the coincidence of the perfect match will lead to this revelation.

We don't know if Sai returned to CN or tried to reach out to them. If she knows that they never found Vinu or has she assumed the adopted child as Vinu. In the precap when Sai was looking concerned at the mention of Nagpur school children, it felt like she knew about Vinu. So does she know that V adopted a child or she assumed that they found Vinu? And in her guilt of risking the baby decided to let V raise him?

If she thinks that Vinu didn’t survive the accident, then she would have been in survival guilt and the only thing that would have given her the reason to live was Savi.

The next logical question is if she believed Vinu didn't survive why would she not let V know about Savi. She did regret leaving and risking the baby. So she would want to ease some pain of V and others.

It could be possible that she feared that V in his anger would take away he baby, or she wasn't sure if she would have a successful delivery.

If it is the latter, she would have possibly returned and seen P & V with Vinu, which made her not reveal her truth. Her guilt at risking her baby and putting the family through it all would have made her return.

For Sai to not return to CN it is either her guilt or probably she still holds up V on his last words to her.

But unlike what we all have been wanting, it looks like V and Sai will be at loggerheads. Once V knows about Savi and the fact that Sai kept him away from her, will make him furious at her. So it doesn’t seem like V going after Sai like we were expecting. It will more be face off. At least that's what it seems like.

With a politician coming in he probably would be causing trouble for Sai and V would step in. I hate this damsel in distress thing. Sai is strong and it just doesn’t feel right after all this she is at V' mercy and favour.

I really hope Sai assumes the Vinu was found, it would have made it a little easier for Sai. Or else she would be living all these years with the guilt that she was responsible for her baby's death.

On the other hand, though V has adopted a child to fill the vacuum, he still lives in regret. And there will be more to come with Savi's truth.

Sai and V won't meet....not yet. But if V still lives in regret and mourns Sai's loss, how is it possible that Vinu has not seen her. I'm sure Vinu will not recognise Sai in the camp. Unless V or Chavans decided to get rid of Sai's belongings and pics to completely dismiss her memory from their lives. And that would also make sense why he would call P "Ma".

However, Savi calling Sai Aai and waiting for her Baba...I want to see if Vinu calls V Baba or Aaba. In either way Aai is reserved for Sai and not for P.

I doubt it now. Since they have ff the entire mourning.

And I would now go by their tendency to leave such things unaddressed....forgotten as they never happened.

Originally posted by: Moor278

Ghum main logic nahi hai par common sense bhi nahi rakh sakte?

They don't understand basic biology, basic rules and protocols and then this stupid rush.

Extremely rushed episode.

My gut feeling is Jafar who gave good SaiRat scenes is back for only few days and the are making him lay the foundation for future track. So that the audience is pulled back to the show. TRP badhegi. Vaise bhi everything is now pointing to a refreshed version of SaiRat story.

Phir Vanku ke baki minions aake story ko barbaad karne ke liye mukt hai.

By not dwelling on the circumstances, it's a perfect plan to keep the audience hooked to see how it all happened. Nicely played.

Yes. I agree. It was to keep the suspense on. About what happened, the reactions of V and family and how they have responded and their feelings towards Sai. Also, why Sai never returned. They will only disclose this in parts. But hope they don't keep their usual continuity mess up here.,,,since it will all be flashbacks.

Sai and V searching for Vinu was well enacted. V showed that pain we were expecting yesterday.

Chalo atleast he regrets not stopping her. Her last words keep running in his mind. Would be interesting to see their first meet to know how much has he carried it forward.

But I still feel he lacks the intensity since we have enough for comparison in old episodes. Stand alone it was decent.

I refuse to accept he remembers Lahu. 😡

We all wanted a scene where this is brought in conversation and now into his memory. Seriously ?

But as I mentioned some days back, ye directors ka ego trip hai. They only pick out their own directed scenes.

That is why in supposedly 5-6 years of marriage and 500+ episodes, V only remembers the initial days of the marriage... Sai's first gruh pravesh, her admission and their later nokjhok. And then Lahu. (Initial 100 episodes). So Jafar seems to give high regard to Rohit's direction 👍🏼

But all the scenes are when V was not even in love with her.

Or are they trying to show now that he was.. he didn't realise????

How convenient and lazy editing!!!!

Their flashbacks are usually that. They don't sync with the situation well. It is not that seamless.

Logic as expected is ghum from ghum.

So instead of preserving the bodies they couldn't identify (as would be the protocol) they are cremating it? Without verifying the identity and even religious practices of the dead??? Utter load of bullshit!!! Destitute ki body ko bhi photo ke saath paper main publish karte hai so that someone can claim. Yaha to accident victims hai.

Just so that someone can tell V that two bodies are unrecognisable and are cremated.

And he as a police officer accepts that 👏

Thats was such an illogical part. But it just strengthens the belief that they just wanted to get done with this track and hop on to leap.

BTW there was no other baby when the accident happened. Ab suddenly kaha se aa gaya?

Itne saare log bhi nahi the. The journalist count itself seemed like there were approx 35-40 people injured and dead.

Sai is in survivors guilt. But it seemed too stupid that she gave up on Vinu so easily.

Itna bada jungle hai. Atleast dono ka breakdown valag alag jagah dikhate. They are facing each other, merely feet away and cannot find each other???

The funeral is super rushed. FL's death doesn't even get a full minute of mourning. Although it is good in a way, it would have been heartbreaking to see a chandan ki mala wala Sai ka photo.

And ye kounsa ritual hai? As far as I know, funeral main kabhi havan nahi hota. Havan is only for good occasions.

Leap aa gaya isse pehle hi MB gayab ho gai.

She won't even get a funeral but atleast show her in Sai's. 👎🏼

MB, Rajeev and Pulkit are missing. Oulkit at least should have been there. That also gives me a feeling that he has refused to be part of the ritual and it was meant for the baby and not for Sai. And Pulkit has broken ties.

Sai is told she is pregnant but her flashbacks are from initial days of surrogacy. Makers seem to have forgotten that Sai is a human and not elephant jo usko 22 weeks ka gestation hoga. What stupidity!!!

Sai names her daughter Saavi. ❤️

So that when V meets her, it's an instant connect. He already has as per precap.

I guess she will be inspired or will mention her intention to be a police officer on meeting him.

Similarly Vinu too will be inspired after meeting Sai and will say that I always wanted to be a doctor if he doesn't know already.

Precap wala V looks happy and totally invested in Vinu. Going by his regret and his happiness, Vinu should technically know who Sai is and should have seen her pics.

And that makes me doubt on V's regret vs anger take.

My worst fears are coming true.

Looks like Sai will be blamed for keeping Saavi secret and the fact that she is alive as well. Depends on how V reacts on meeting Saavi.

V would be angry at Sai for hiding herself 😭

I too feel that. And it is again Sai bashing. No repentance and no redemption. Digging below hell level.

But now I want Vinu to call P 'maa' or 'badi maa' even though he knows she is not his mother. Won't disclose the reasons now.

For me it would be that Aai is for Sai as V would be Baba. Badi Maa would be better suited for P. Unless they want to make it more dramatic.

SaiRat look hot and sexy. Ayesha is looking awesome... I wish Sai braids her hair when she meets V the first time. I like this hairstyle of NB better than all others.

Also looking by the speed they have picked up, totally not discounting the fact that they may even meet tomm. Episode will end at a high point for the weekend.

They are not meeting tomorrow. Atleast not before next sat...even late than that. It will be the kids meeting the other parent and bonding

Aria and her lisp is super cute. Her being the daring girl unafraid of wild is a trait of Sai and a similar intro scene. Jungli mulgi ki jungli mulgi.

Ayesha should really work on her 'ळ' now... she is supposed to be calling Saavi that frequently.

It's not बाडा... It's बाळा.

I dont think they are gonna show PP not be involved in Vs life. Unprofessional couple won't allow it. But it sucks that he cannot handle Vinu himself.

Anyway hopefully Vinu in camp meets Sai as doctor, gets inspired, forms a bond with Sai n Savi.

Sai is the only watchable thing about ghkkpm.

I'm not impressed by adoption. He had no such compassion when Sai was alive and even now hes not gonna credit Sai for his change. He wanted surrogacy of pp over adoption when Sai was infertile. I don't think hes adopted kid after understanding the pain he caused Sai by calling her an orphan.

Nahi hume toh pata hai na ke woh zinda hai. Uss ke pathi ko rone dete hai.

Hamari Sai thoda udas aur pareshan hai lekin hume toh yeh bhi pata hai na ke uss ke paas Savi aane wali hai. Rona toh uss nalayaq ko chahiye.

PS: My only rona is that after all thw fiasco, if they get Vinu, yeh toh bilkul sahi nahi huwa. P, V and CNs get the cake(cuitie pie) and eat (keep) it too. Yeh cake/pie hazam nahi ho rahe, bas yahi rona hai

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The adoption seems perfect. I couldn't digest the possible smirk on the chavannis that they have the chiragh without Sai. and yet give the baby his rightful home.

That kinda reduces P's influence and her "helicoptering" over V and Vinu. I will believe her change only when I actually see it after her "agni" pariksha (when Sai returns) or she leaves CN and builds her life again. Staying in CN itself is proof that she still wants to own V.

Originally posted by: sadiltl

Vankar surprised me! If he is really following the adoption path. IF spoilers are usually not wrong, so going by that Virat adopted a kid, a male one...indeed he chose a good way to redeem Virat. In this process, he highlighted few worthy characteristics of Virat...his will to not surrender to situations, keep going and last but not the least, his compassion. If Sai is removed from his mental space, he operates at completely different level! 😃 I dont know what happens to him with Sai that he shows his darker side. He behaves so inhumane with her at times. The giver become taker, the lover becomes punisher. Could be that he has high expectations on her to accept him in his vulnerable form, be his cheerleader despite his weaknesses, and be dependent on him emotionally? It is almost like he is testing her love for him...by making mistakes deliberately and see if she would stick with him. Just saying.

"The giver become taker" - That is how it is bound to be. You can't always be giving. So while V goes out of his way with everyone else, he depends on Sai for being the giver. He has high expectations from her...sometimes which goes onto blind and non conditional terms...no exceptions. However, he forgets that she too is human and has her own feelings, views and though process. Sai has been right on numerous occasions and by experience he should have started giving her some credits and leeway. So yes she brings out the darker side in him and she is always the receiver of it.

I still have a doubt in here. They haven't shown who were they mourning. Could it be possible that V and Chavans know that Sai survived and were furious at her for the loss of Vinu. Hence, Sai never returned and know came to know about Savi.

It could also be possible the other way round. V found the baby and connected and he gave him a reason to live after the heartbreak. He filled the emptiness in him and gave him that reason to live on.

The way he was shown to be missing Vinu, he has become that sole reason around which his life revolves.

But, in all this I feel the suspension and case would be forgotten.

As far as I read and in my limited understanding of this vast concept, The Karma theory works in a weird way. It is not always direct results that we reap from the deeds, but the results could be transformative. We dont see the tangible results, but see them in the way we live and perceive things. I dont know if Vankar has put so much thought into all this but the adoption angle is indeed interesting!

Virat tried to control every situation around HIS child's birth. It was atrocious in the way he handled it. The only parallel I could draw for his behavior is the ousting track. He failed as a police officer and a human being. I am leaving the husband part because they were not married in its full meaning. Later, he repeated the same thing while surrogacy. He was not being a husband, police officer and a good human being also. I say at human level also because he made Pakhi the surrogate, tying her to his family, not letting her to move on. He was too selfish to the level that he who preached about women empowerment and equality said Pakhi will find meaning by giving birth to his child. He fell too low in that episode. Utterly selfish, behaving like the God trying to control every single situation. He sidelined even his wife, her choices and her happiness to bring HIS child to this world. Whatever could be his reasons for that...but he failed in every level. The delivery scene also makes so much sense now! He brought the child into world fighting with the fate, he snatched it from the universe....

But ultimately he was made to understand that things do go out of control. He was grounded by life, taking away his two most valuable people in this world for whom he went against everything he believed, he went against his wife who cannot stand anything wrong, be it to her or anyone else. Sai is the personification of justice here and he abused her. He was denied justice. These are the immediate results of his Karma by actions.

However, Virat has been gathering some good Karma too for all his good deeds in the past. Having Sai as a life partner itself is a positive influence on him and his way of life. The fruits of those actions/intentions are seen in the way he leads his life, raising up after falling down. The way he finds a sense of purpose, corrects his mistakes in a bigger way. The child for whom he was so obsessed with, the woman who he wanted to possess/control at the cost of taking away her freedom/happiness both left him in despair but still he found hope in adopting another child! Who else but a person who realized his mistakes, understood the grand plan of universe and surrendered to the life can do it. The suffering he must have gone through is his healing process. If indeed Vinu is an adopted kid, Virat is half redeemed. He craved for his biological child, his own, his blood, the product of his love for his wife. But ended up adopting 'some' child who is not related to him in any way....that is a big shift of thought process there. If he was also thinking about his cruel words of calling Sai 'Anath' then it is his redemption at hurting her in worst possible way. His soul is healed by this adoption.

Such a good interpretation and correlation with each of the events 👏

Ayesha's post yesterday where she said the daughter healed her soul stuck me hard. Both Virat and Sai are responsible for the loss of their child, in one way or the other. The parents' guilt when they lose their child due to their negligence is inexplainable, life draining. Now I can connect to Sai's no show after Vinu's death. Her guilt might have scarred her soul. It is not only being responsible for her only child's death, but also about taking away the fatherhood of her husband who she loved. It must be doubly taxing for her to accept her child's death and face her husband who she had known to be so desperate to get a child through her. She might have felt that she failed both of them. The person Sai is, she would take the responsibility for this mishap and stay away from any kind of happiness or hope that she might get by going back to her husband, now that she is pregnant again! These emotions are not translated in the episode, but I am hoping they will show later. Knowing that a child is growing inside her, it would have given her hope to live...steadily healing her soul. She still doesnt know what Virat might be feeling amidst this mishap, so when she sees him happy, as a wife she might MU Virat. But knowing what he has done, she might fall for the same person she fell for all these while, when she went back to him repeatedly after so many wrongdoings with her...his compassion and a person who will learn, raise and shine.

Will wait for the flashbacks to reveal the incidents before making any comments on this. I kind of have doubts on how this is getting played right now

All this said, for a story...good Karma should yield tangible results. :) So they will find their Vinu back! The child, who is named after the first Guru, Vinayaka. He separated them to teach them valuable lessons of life and I am sure he will be the one who will orchestrate their union again. If Vankar thought about this all along, even naming him Vinayak then I should applaud him.

I'm have similar thoughts on this one. They separated because of him and he will bring them together.

A little addition there. Savi was conceived before Vinu was born. But her presence was unknown and uncertainty surrounded her survival. Savi being the sun, was in the darkness. As the sun shines Vighnaharta will bring clear all barriers and bring Sai and Virat together.

While Savi is the fruit of their love from their union and happiness, Vinayak is the symbol of their ever existing (jeeti jagti) love when separated 👍🏼

PS: Not sure if Vankar has put so much thought while writing these episodes. He serves us so much toxicity but this adoption news touched my heart. The thought itself gives such a positive feeling. I wish he is seriously putting his brains to use here and show us a good redemption track for Virat. But the Virat we know, still flips when Sai is around him. A big mystery why he does that 😆

Thanks! yeah all is well till Pakhi comes into the picture. I am sure Vinu will call her Maa which gives raise to a huge MU for Sai.

Did he not find any other woman to help him? I am sure there is no marriage thing...going on. May be he adopted and Pakhi wants to redeem her mistake too so helps him raise Vinu?

Cant imagine Pakhi having that big heart though. 😕

Originally posted by: sadiltl

Thanks! yeah all is well till Pakhi comes into the picture. I am sure Vinu will call her Maa which gives raise to a huge MU for Sai.

Did he not find any other woman to help him? I am sure there is no marriage thing...going on. May be he adopted and Pakhi wants to redeem her mistake too so helps him raise Vinu?

Cant imagine Pakhi having that big heart though. 😕

She will have a big heart with anything related to Virat. She always wanted to play family with him in whatever form, remember her after confession rant of hee ultimate life aim is to be with Virat or to get him.

Sai unlike Pakhi won’t fight for Virat if he is with someone else. After all that he said to her , burden resp for samrats death and acc to her she is resp for vinus death too.

No blurb yet today. 😟😮🤔. Is something 'still' cooking

🙈😁😂

I'm looking fwd to Virat actually pursuing Sai this time round....

I guess we're heading to the original story where Didi lived half her life under a 2 day illusion...and now it will be x no.yrs (leap) illusion

Sai lived the first section of her married life with Virat's vaada and Didi wanting to snatch him from her...

And now the Vaada will turn into Vinu...and Didi will continue her snatching tactics 😵

Vanku really believes in "old is gold" 🤣