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Originally posted by: mango.falooda

ushna said you have to stay in the playground to fight and zainab actually said that sometimes you win by leaving the ground. so we have very different strategies at work here. that is why she yelled in the breakfast table that she will not leave the house like zainab. however, do think that some point, ushna will also see the value in zainab's strategy and might follow suit...

I hope she follows the suit. Both shehroz and Ushna can only realise each others value when they are separated. When Shehroz had a fear of losing Ushna, he cried like anything. When now Ushna feels she can lose him, it is affecting her but now Shehroz does not value her . So it is good they both live separately and understand their places in each others' lives.

Mango, I did not get your point on conditional love of Shehroz which Ushna did not expect you were talking about yesterday?

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

she didn't think he would put his love as conditional. it is scaring her because it seems that she can't be herself and has to tiptoe around him and naima....

I had to go find what I wrote because I forgot. hahahaha. 😆

so what I was trying to say that she didn't expect shehroze to indirectly convey -- "If you don't love my mom the way I do, you are out". so his love is conditional on her relationship with naima. she looked a bit shocked to realize that because so far she sees the two of them as a couple and in between them, there is only their love and themselves. when it comes to family, there are other people ofcourse but as a couple, it is the two of them. shehroze is conveying that they are more of a triangle and if naima cuts the cord, then ushna will get booted out. that was a shock to her because previously he stood by her and he showed her that he was in it for her and he will be support and her husband. hope I am making sense. not sure...

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

see that is the thing -- can love and control co-exist? we see this a lot in unhealthy family relationships drama --

"oh, we are your elders and you need to listen."

"oh I love you and therefore you have to marry me even if you are not interested"...

so much emotional blackmail in these type of dialogues -- but is love driving this madness in some way?

They can if we take shehroze as an example. He likes to control ushna but loves her a lot as well. His controlling nature however isn't on the toxic level like naagin or sufi creepy or rafakat or raeesa. His controlling nature more has to do with him being insecure about ushna. When he feels secure he don't really try to control her like how he had no problem letting ushna go to sadaf's mehdi but wanted to control when he gets danger alert with sufi creepy.

Naima naagin's controlling nature was always extreme and it triumphs her love for her own so. It's just that in the earlier episode what she wanted to do made the leads come together so we didn't mind. She emotionally forced wahab to get married to zainab and she continuously persuaded zainab to make her say yes for the marriage. She didn't care that her spoiled baby was going nuts about this idea of hers and insulting his father more than he does on a regular basis. She wanted what she wanted by any means.

She did the same with ushroze's marriage. She didn't care that ushna herself wasn't interested in the marriage and was roaming around with her cousin who has openly declared his love for her and even goes around saying she also loves him. Since shehroze himself wanted that marriage he didn't resist much and covered his dil ki khwahish as ammi ki khwahish ☺️. She never tried to ask ushna directly if she wants to get married to laad sahab and used zainab to do it. She clearly knows ushna will reject her arrogant brat in a second. So she wanted zainab to force her for the marriage. Chalak laumbdi.

Since both the above incident ended up giving positive results we didn't mind her and even liked her character.

But then she saw how zainab and ushna started having contol over wahab and shehroze. Esp shehroze. He literally went out of control, took his gun and went to meet sufi creepy over her scolding ushna for the calls.

Then she got the perfect reason to kick out ushna with the daadi fiasco but it backfired completely because her spoiled brat is way too much of an uncontrollable spoiled brat when he wants something or someone. Even she cannot handle him when he stays adamant on something. Beta toh uska ki hai na.

So now she is emotionally manipulating shehroze and the situations at home. It worked with zainab as wahab it zainab isn't crazily in love with each other but won't work on ushroze. They might end up fighting with each other like cat and mouse but shehroze will never divorce ushna.

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

I had to go find what I wrote because I forgot. hahahaha. 😆

so what I was trying to say that she didn't expect shehroze to indirectly convey -- "If you don't love my mom the way I do, you are out". so his love is conditional on her relationship with naima. she looked a bit shocked to realize that because so far she sees the two of them as a couple and in between them, there is only their love and themselves. when it comes to family, there are other people ofcourse but as a couple, it is the two of them. shehroze is conveying that they are more of a triangle and if naima cuts the cord, then ushna will get booted out. that was a shock to her because previously he stood by her and he showed her that he was in it for her and he will be support and her husband. hope I am making sense. not sure...

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The problem is not conditional love, here it's more about the double standard in love. Directly or indirectly he has been telling that Naima is a free parcel along with him and you have to deal with her just to be with him. Let's say fair enough. Another side he is feeling insecure about Zainab's position in Ushna's life, and he has made it clear to Zainab that she is coming between a couple. He can't even stand the existence of Zainab between them, but he expects Ushna to carry Naima as a handbag in their relationship. Why can't he take Zainab in his abnormal triangle and make it square love?

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

I had to go find what I wrote because I forgot. hahahaha. 😆

so what I was trying to say that she didn't expect shehroze to indirectly convey -- "If you don't love my mom the way I do, you are out". so his love is conditional on her relationship with naima. she looked a bit shocked to realize that because so far she sees the two of them as a couple and in between them, there is only their love and themselves. when it comes to family, there are other people ofcourse but as a couple, it is the two of them. shehroze is conveying that they are more of a triangle and if naima cuts the cord, then ushna will get booted out. that was a shock to her because previously he stood by her and he showed her that he was in it for her and he will be support and her husband. hope I am making sense. not sure...

You are making complete sense. I am agreeing with you..

As far as i have understood. Ushna and Shehroz both are naive to run a relationship. Ushna is lucky to have someone like Zainab to make her understand how she should prioritise her husband over Zainab because one needs to set a priority when handling different relationships. You cant disrespect one because of the other. Zainab has actually make Ushna's condition easier by asking her to not giving too much importance to Zainab..

On the other hand, with Shehroz, his mother is making it look like she should be given the most importance and Shehroz being blind in her obsession cant see anything beyond. He did try on his side and said it clear that he cant choose anyone between Ushna and his mother but only then when he was about to lose Ushna. He knows he cant live without Ushna but he is also taking her granted for the fact he knows now Ushna wont leave him..and they are married and deed is done 😆 now he is putting a condition when he was the one who told Ushna , that wo meri ma hai, fiqar karengi , tum unka mat socho, mujhe koi farq nhi padta wo kya sochti hai tumhare bare me" 😆

I also despise the fact how Shehroz and Naima are behaving now as if they have done some favour on Ushna coming from classy khandan when Shehroz was the one dying for Rukhsati. How you can change from "mukhe farq nhi padta background se" to " Apne khandan ko daanv par laga kar shadi ki" for both maa beta. 😆

Hypocrisy has its limits !!

Originally posted by: CoffeeCake

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The problem is not conditional love, here it's more about the double standard in love. Directly or indirectly he has been telling that Naima is a free parcel along with him and you have to deal with her just to be with him. Let's say fair enough. Another side he is feeling insecure about Zainab's position in Ushna's life, and he has made it clear to Zainab that she is coming between a couple. He can't even stand the existence of Zainab between them, but he expects Ushna to carry Naima as a handbag in their relationship. Why can't he take Zainab in his abnormal triangle and make it square love?

He is lucky to have Zainab as his mother in law who herself would not be a part of it. Imagine, if he had gotten Naima nagin kind of Saas, it would have been more fun seeing him even struggling to do the deed 😆

Originally posted by: CoffeeCake

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The problem is not conditional love, here it's more about the double standard in love. Directly or indirectly he has been telling that Naima is a free parcel along with him and you have to deal with her just to be with him. Let's say fair enough. Another side he is feeling insecure about Zainab's position in Ushna's life, and he has made it clear to Zainab that she is coming between a couple. He can't even stand the existence of Zainab between them, but he expects Ushna to carry Naima as a handbag in their relationship. Why can't he take Zainab in his abnormal triangle and make it square love?

from ushna's side, she was thinking it was a square love. shehroze kind of said okay to it before marriage but he didn't realize how cumbersome it is for love to have so many angles and sides. 😆

And Shehroz knows that he wasn't her choice, or she wasn't in love before Nikah. He said that he was his mom's choice, he could have been a little more genuine and told her that 'her mom has forced him on her'. He was not a choice, if he considers himself as a choice, the options were (A) Yes (B) Of course yes.

And he himself had gone ahead with this forceful drama, he didn't mind any kind of pressure Zainab used to put on her. He has used Zainab to control Ushna as per his requirements. So why is there any complaint about choice or not a choice? Does it really matter when he himself was the main player to get her without her choice?

Originally posted by: CoffeeCake

@bold

The problem is not conditional love, here it's more about the double standard in love. Directly or indirectly he has been telling that Naima is a free parcel along with him and you have to deal with her just to be with him. Let's say fair enough. Another side he is feeling insecure about Zainab's position in Ushna's life, and he has made it clear to Zainab that she is coming between a couple. He can't even stand the existence of Zainab between them, but he expects Ushna to carry Naima as a handbag in their relationship. Why can't he take Zainab in his abnormal triangle and make it square love?

He cannot take zainab in because he is an entitled spoiled brat that wants everything according to his wish.

I guess shehroze won't make much problem out of zainab if he gets the feeling that ushna loves him as much as she loves her mother if not more. He already proved that he loves ushna as much as he loves naagin but she forgets about him when it came to zainab. For someone like shehroze that wants complete attention from the people he loves it's a big deal and he don't want to understand anything. He never ignored ushna. He takes her call even when he is super busy in office and she ignores his calls when it comes to zainab. She didn't notice his calls when zainab got fever and forgot her bag in the car when she came to muktar house to see zainab. On top of that sufi creepy issue. Even though he trusted ushna when she said sufi creepy is not the reason for her not agreeing to marry him, for a super possessive guy like him it might be hard to forget that there was something between them and she is still defending that creep in front of him. Again like he said in the last episode he never gave a reason for ushna to be insecure or mistrust him. So according to him he isn't wrong from any side. Also ushna did the biggest mistake by saying he can choose his mother over her anytime. Bewakoof ladki.