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Posted: 3 years ago
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Warning - Its going to be a long post.

Its a bit of rant and realisation.

Its purely from my perspective, you can agree or disagree with me, its your choice. But this has been bothering me for a few days now and today, it reached a point of realization for me. Hence this post.

It was like a jolt that I realised what Vanku has done to me as a viewer (and I consider myself a sensible viewer 😃)

Going forward the terminology I will be using is WE - that is the Viewers of the show and THEY- Vankar and the Channel as they are the main captains of this Ghum Ship.

On other shows, when Holi is shown, viewers are looking forward to light hearted moments, romance between leads and sideys basically enjoying and having a good, fun time. But in Ghum World what do we get?


Ghum has always thrived on negativity. Cringe and Toxicity has always been the part and parcel of this show. This is the truth and as viewers, we have all accepted it to an extent cause we dont have another option. After more than 450 plus episodes, I now see a pattern on how They have been dishing out this crap to us.

I want to rate intensity of Toxicity and Cringe with this scale :

Bad

Bad Max

Max Pro

Ultra Pro Max


About 200 or odd episodes before , Paki standing outside Sairat's door or even she waltzing into their room was considered ewwww! and Utra Pro Max level.🤢 I was not that active in the forum back then but when I go back to those pages, I can see how we were ranting here and Vanku ko gaali bhi de rahe the ki ye kitna ganda dikha raha hain.

But look at us now- we are discussing on whether Paki will actually sleep with Virat in his bed in his room. !!🤔 When they show Paki standing outside the room now, we are thinking- thank god she is outside the room, its bad behaviour but at least she is not inside and touching him, because that is the new standard of Ultra Pro Max now. Do you see the progression? They have successfully normalised Ultra Pro Max behaviour and down graded it to just a Bad behaviour.

Same with the family's abuse to Sai . In the earlier episodes, even BK calling her Jungli Mulgi was unacceptable behaviour for us. How much everyone ranted on that!

Look at us now, the family is wishing death on Sai - that is Ultra Pro Max but if they just resort to calling her names again - we will be thinking - Thank God at least now they have changed , they are not wishing her death, they are only calling her names. Do you see the progression here too?

They have been normalizing cringe and abuse slowly slowly by increasing the dosage episode by episode , track by track to such an extent that we, as viewers have started being immune to many of the stuff they are showing now. And when I think of how many millions of screens across the country are showing this content on Prime Time slot and all those unsuspecting viewers who are falling into the trap, my blood boils.😡

This is SLOW POISONING ! 😡And the WE includes ME too.

I am so shocked that Vanku brilliantly played with my mind and I did not even see this coming!😕


To draw a parallel, this is exactly what happens in long term abusive relationships. The abuser, through slow progression increases the dosage of abuse slowly and after a while the abused feels that the initial lower grade abuse was actually normal behaviour because now he/she is dealing with more severe abuse. Vanku's formula is the same. But the issue here is - in a relationship its one-on-one but here, its playing with millions of minds among whom many are not that articulate and are easily gullible. They are playing with those viewers. Its like a Cult Leader manipulating the minds of his followers. 🤔


Vanku is a gone case, so no point ranting about him. But isnt Star a responsible Channel? Are they blind to see whats going on in the name of content? They should stop using Nayi Soch for their tag line because it is a grave insult to the word Soch.

Vanku himself was shocked when someone told him the show is Toxic. I think that sums up everything🤔


I have just scribbled down what came to my mind and tagging a few people I met here who seem to be on the same page as me on many issues discussed here.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Forgot to tag Nutmeg :)

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Posted: 3 years ago
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The channel always has a bigger say in what is being shown. So whatever is shown in Ghum, the channel has okayed it.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Agree with Nutmeg.....everything is approved by channel.

Long back, I wrote a complaint to the channel about the casual way they were showing Devyani's "honour killing" and having an IPS justify it....channel wrote back saying Sitara is a responsible entity and they have passed my concerns on to the PH 🤪


Coming to the specifics, I dont understand why they have to dial up the toxicity of the family and Pakhi? Does it add any value to the story? KD was far less toxic, so is the current No.1 show...they did just fine, didnt they?

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: xfiles

Warning - Its going to be a long post.

Its a bit of rant and realisation.

Its purely from my perspective, you can agree or disagree with me, its your choice. But this has been bothering me for a few days now and today, it reached a point of realization for me. Hence this post.

It was like a jolt that I realised what Vanku has done to me as a viewer (and I consider myself a sensible viewer 😃)

Going forward the terminology I will be using is WE - that is the Viewers of the show and THEY- Vankar and the Channel as they are the main captains of this Ghum Ship.

On other shows, when Holi is shown, viewers are looking forward to light hearted moments, romance between leads and sideys basically enjoying and having a good, fun time. But in Ghum World what do we get?


Ghum has always thrived on negativity. Cringe and Toxicity has always been the part and parcel of this show. This is the truth and as viewers, we have all accepted it to an extent cause we dont have another option. After more than 450 plus episodes, I now see a pattern on how They have been dishing out this crap to us.

I want to rate intensity of Toxicity and Cringe with this scale :

Bad

Bad Max

Max Pro

Ultra Pro Max


About 200 or odd episodes before , Paki standing outside Sairat's door or even she waltzing into their room was considered ewwww! and Utra Pro Max level.🤢 I was not that active in the forum back then but when I go back to those pages, I can see how we were ranting here and Vanku ko gaali bhi de rahe the ki ye kitna ganda dikha raha hain.

But look at us now- we are discussing on whether Paki will actually sleep with Virat in his bed in his room. !!🤔 When they show Paki standing outside the room now, we are thinking- thank god she is outside the room, its bad behaviour but at least she is not inside and touching him, because that is the new standard of Ultra Pro Max now. Do you see the progression? They have successfully normalised Ultra Pro Max behaviour and down graded it to just a Bad behaviour.

Same with the family's abuse to Sai . In the earlier episodes, even BK calling her Jungli Mulgi was unacceptable behaviour for us. How much everyone ranted on that!

Look at us now, the family is wishing death on Sai - that is Ultra Pro Max but if they just resort to calling her names again - we will be thinking - Thank God at least now they have changed , they are not wishing her death, they are only calling her names. Do you see the progression here too?

They have been normalizing cringe and abuse slowly slowly by increasing the dosage episode by episode , track by track to such an extent that we, as viewers have started being immune to many of the stuff they are showing now. And when I think of how many millions of screens across the country are showing this content on Prime Time slot and all those unsuspecting viewers who are falling into the trap, my blood boils.😡

This is SLOW POISONING ! 😡And the WE includes ME too.

I am so shocked that Vanku brilliantly played with my mind and I did not even see this coming!😕


To draw a parallel, this is exactly what happens in long term abusive relationships. The abuser, through slow progression increases the dosage of abuse slowly and after a while the abused feels that the initial lower grade abuse was actually normal behaviour because now he/she is dealing with more severe abuse. Vanku's formula is the same. But the issue here is - in a relationship its one-on-one but here, its playing with millions of minds among whom many are not that articulate and are easily gullible. They are playing with those viewers. Its like a Cult Leader manipulating the minds of his followers. 🤔


Vanku is a gone case, so no point ranting about him. But isnt Star a responsible Channel? Are they blind to see whats going on in the name of content? They should stop using Nayi Soch for their tag line because it is a grave insult to the word Soch.

Vanku himself was shocked when someone told him the show is Toxic. I think that sums up everything🤔


I have just scribbled down what came to my mind and tagging a few people I met here who seem to be on the same page as me on many issues discussed here.



Why do you think we don’t have an option ?

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: SakZ

Why do you think we don’t have an option ?

Viewers have complained for so long but Vanku refuses to do anything. Most of us here are still sticking to the show for Ayesha only. I too love that girl too much to leave the show now. If she leaves the show, I will be out the next minute.
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Posted: 3 years ago
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Well written 👍🏼

I guess it boils down to one thing, Money.

If the crap that they're showing is selling so be it, nothing else matters to them.

The Nayi Soch thing of SP is all a facade wrt to this show, because i don't really see the nayi soch in this serial besides Sai who was shown as a fiery and strong girl in the beginning who doesn't allow anyone to step over her, but aside from that everything is toxic to the core. Mr Vankar once said in one of his iv that they wrote the character of Sai with the intention of showing how loud and stubborn she is but they had no idea that audience will love this "loud and stubborn" Sai only. The audience viewed her not as a stubborn girl who answers back to the elders of the house but as a strong girl who takes no shit from anyone, who stands for herself. So it is apt to say that Sai is the only character in this show who was a good representation of the Nayi soch of SP.

Besides that, all we see in this show is how a supposedly well reputed family abuses a teenager, a husband who is not able to draw a line between himself and his ex who is now his brother's wife, a husband who character shames his wife, who ousts his wife in the middle of the night, a married woman who is obsessed with her brother in law and actually wants an illicit relationship with him and the list goes on and on.

I don't watch other shows of sp so idk how this nayi soch is depicted in other shows but i watch the no1 show, and according to me compared to ghkkpm, the other show better fits the mould of the nayi soch ; the gullible innocent housewife who defies the odds and divorces her narcissistic husband after 26 years and sets out on a new journey. And now they are currently tackling the issue of how a honewali Dadi is told that she cannot remarry at the age of 45. Not saying that the regressive content is completely absent there, it honestly makes an appearance once in a while but it is certainly not as toxic as this show. If they show something regressive, they also counteract it by showing considerably good content which is then praised by the audience. Recently Anuj was shown throwing truth bombs at the family in an intoxicated state, this was very much appreciated by the audience, everything that he said was the voice of the audience (which yet again shows how the makers caters to the needs of viewers and values their feedback). Even in his sober/natural state he stands for the woman that he loves and thrashes her toxic family in a very calm and sarcastic manner.

Coming to Mr Vankar being shocked upon hearing that people find his show toxic, it's very difficult to believe him. They cannot be that dumb to not be aware of the toxicity of the content that they are putting forth. They know it, they just don't wanna accept it as this very toxic content is bringing them the money.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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I agree! I watched KD too till confession. I felt the setting like a normal family. But here everything is ott. :(

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Well this was started by Ekta and she has made ITV the way it, with audience slowly accepting the shitty content over better content in 90s and early 2000s.


Only when people reject such content will we get new storylines. when educated online audience like you and me and still watching this, how can we expect TRP audience to stop it. As long as they get TRPs they will continue showing shitty tracks.

It's not just sp, all ITV channels except few have decent stories.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Even if you complain to I&B ministry, they have guidelines on what can be aired and what not. So if you complain about Ghum, say for example Virat locking Sai in his room and then Sai escaping, Sitara won’t be fined nor production house because it isn’t violating any rule.

The fact that Sai escaped and then Samrat spoke about domestic abuse is enough proof to say that we are against such actions. Also, it is passed off as fiction.

Edited by nutmeg7 - 3 years ago

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