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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Doodle

Nazar v/s Nazariyaan: Ram Kapoor


It was the night under the rain. A man drenched with the idea of love; love, his belief, happens only once in a lifetime. He promises [himself] to love her forever where there is no place for anyone. He was wearing black and she, magenta.


What is an idea? We define an idea as a thought or a formulated thought, an imaginary figment of the mind or belief. What if an idea is just an illusion? If an illusion, then will that idea ever be tangible or concrete?


She asks him a favor, and he promises to fulfill by next year's rain. He has never learned to say 'no' to her. She comes forward to thank him but is startled by the lightning.


"Love comes like lightning, and disappears the same way. If you are lucky, it strikes you right. If not, you'll spend your life yearning for a man you can't have." ~ The Palace of Illusions.


He stood firm on his ground. She stepped back. It started to rain. She protected herself from it, but he, drenched with the idea of love and the illusion, reminded her he still loves rain and took a step back. But, he said – "whether I am in your life or not, my life is all yours; no one will ever have a place in it."


Black, a color that absorbs all colors. A color that is unambiguous, definite, and exudes authority and power. Magenta is a color that DOESN'T exist. Magenta is a lure; it is an illusion. Hevel (vapor in Hebrew). The color magenta is just an illusion created by our eyes. It is not found on the visible spectrum of light, and there is no wavelength of this color. How can then unambiguity and illusion ever be together?


How can we conceptualize an idea whose foundation is an illusion? It is a mist that disappears before our eyes could even shape, name, live, dream, or even build. On the contrary, what if our idea is an imagination? Then we can conceptualize it. He dreams of merging their families with his sweetheart sister's wedding to her brother-in-law. There will be a wedding but not them as bride and groom. Their hearts will never be together; still, deep down, he is happy to be with her in the same room - to ask for nothing but a slight presence. But, "doesn't the imagination always exaggerate – or diminish – truth?" ~ writes Chitra Divakaruni. Yes, it does. His dream of togetherness shattered. It had to. After all, it was built on illusion.


"Yet you do not know what your life will be like tomorrow. You are just a vapor [hevel] that appears for a little while and then vanishes away." ~ James 4:14


The illusion had to break because the dream was impractical. "Apni naiyyan toh nikal chuki hai boss. Iss toofan mein yeh kashti akeli ghumegi." It had to shatter someday. No one, even his imaginary beloved, waited for him to arrive at the engagement. When our illusions break, then only we realize the difference between pretense and love. We realize that couples fight, argue, taunt, hurt, exude all emotions in true love. Without this, we cannot experience love.


What is love? What is unrequited love? "This thirst!" Eleanor Catton asks, "but is it love, when it is unrequited? If home can't be where you come from," she asks, "then home is what you make of where you go." Yes, one year later, on that rainy day, when his car broke down, Adi advised him to take an auto which will take him home. "Jaa Ram, yeh raashta tujhe tere ghar tak pahunchayega." He couldn't catch the auto because the right time was yet to arrive.


He is sitting in a dark room. The room has no windows. No crack in any walls will allow any light to come in through. Then one day, he saw a yellow smear on the wall. Wondering, is there a crack? What is it that sits on the wall? He turned towards the opposite wall. He sees a spectrum of different colors that a human eye can see. He gets up and walks towards the opposite wall, and rubs the iridescent surface. They are all visible colors. He touches the yellow, red, blue, green, and PURPLE. Yes, they are real. [She IS real.] He turned around to look at the inception of the ray and trudged towards it. Once he reaches, he fudges with it. Surprisingly, it became a bit bigger. Is that a crack, he wonders? The circumference of the light became bigger. Sunlight burst through it. His eyes were used to the darkness, and the light blinded him. Time passed, and he started to get used to the light around. "Time," as Chitra Divakaruni writes, "is like a flower. It visualized a lotus opening, the way the outer petals fall away to reveal the inner ones. An inner petal would never know older outer ones, even though it was shaped by them, and only the viewer who plucked the flower would see how each petal was connected to the others." He began to experience life: anger, happiness, irritation, expectation, hatred, calmness, and above all else, true love. True love weaved with anger, taunt, fight, argument, laughter, care, anticipation.


He found someone who waits for him to return home; who cooks for him all the cuisines he craved watching Yash Chopra movies; who lights up his house; who would make rangoli on Diwali; who fasts for him in festivals; who taunts him on his whims he'd least expect; who fights for his justice; who punishes her brother for calling him, stepbrother.


"He[Ram] took her face between his hands, turning it up, and looking down at her for a moment before he kissed her. "I do love you, Jenny [Priya]," he said gently. "Very much indeed-- you are part of my life. Julia[Vedika] was never that - only a boy's impractical dream." ~ A Civil Contract by Georgette Heyer


Reference: https://scholarblogs.emory.edu/artsbrain/2020/12/02/magenta-doesnt-exist/

This is beautiful, absolutely speechless ❤️.

especially the way you have interpreted the first scene… there were so many subtleties… how I wish they made this show for the OTT or if this were a finite show.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Bana


Why did he not seize the moment to tell Pri that condition is no longer valid as he has completely moved on from his past?


Esp because Pri made it clear it was his condition, (and added mine too as an afterthought). That was his cue to say it has changed for him, that if I made the condition then now I am cancelling it.


He could have told her this without any need to reveal about Vedika being the ex. So why did he not???


Is it because he is still not sure? About his love for Pri or his getting over V?


I think he perceived it differently. A. He felt rejected.

B. He sees it as her decision too ( the condition)

When he comes to his friends he says the same… that she doesn’t have any place for love in her life and it was he who got carried away.

He would not have explained it further because it would mean thrusting his feelings on her and as he had said earlier he wanted to give her space and time. Also, another point (I can correlate because I am slightly like that) you want the other person to understand the unsaid… or reciprocate when it does not happen.. you don’t want to take it any further at least at that point, coz it hurts you to see the one you love unable to understand your deep emotions. From his perspective, it has been always happening to him, he gives, he loves but it doesn’t come back… and this was yet another time and this time it is different.. this time he is truly in love.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: RitikaS99

Exactly!!.

Now priya will be taking all his actions as guilt/duty.

As i said the more ram will support her the more distance she will create between them. Her conscious will not allow her to be with man who is not truly hers.

See i was rewatching the ram-vedika conversation. There were many things but some were especially highlighted.

1. Ram doesnt want to take care of vedika anymore. Bcz last time he had to lie to Priya.

2. Vedika relating her struggle with Priya got ram in thinking state. He was looking at her like she has grown horns.

3. Brinda's understanding of priya when she has always been the most receptive to priya's thoughts.

4. Priya ke pass hoke bhi nhi tha( this was said in context to her father's love but i don't think Ram took it that way.) He is also priya's but not entirely.

5. Use waqt lagega bharosa karne me.

6. Zindagi ek or moka deri hai.




6 things were highlighted in that conversation.

His lies, his struggles, his understanding, his love, his trust and a second chance in life.

He will have to struggle to justify his lies, and prove his understanding, love and trust to get a second chance with Priya.

He has already given an explanation for his lie about the doctor day but not about vedika. He will struggle to win priya's love, trust, understanding and a second chance bcz of his lies.

I told you na there was something very subtle but meaningful to put that conversation in tonight's episode!


Exactly, their conversation and this coming straight from Vedika is the trigger for him. His friends the entire world was trying to make him see it… he could not.

Now, your #2, Vedika comparing herself to Priya was the clearest comparison for his subconscious. Hence the FB and comparison at each stage… what they did not show was how he interpreted it…


One thing was for sure, he was there physically in the conversation mentally he was on a different tangent altogether. Putting together a lot of missing pieces.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: ajacob31

I hope at least tomorrow Priya, Akki, Ram or not the least Shivi asks, why anybody would search Akki’s room/luggage? I don’t see any reason as to do this? Why would somebody search a family members room/luggage? Sorry my head is still stuck at this!! Maybe they have a convincing answer tomorrow!🤣


Also, Akki Shivi, want back to the same room after the IV… did they not see it all ransacked… it is irritating to see how these ppl conveniently forget scenes and tracks… as if Akki Shivi went to the room … look at the all the stuff lying around and say … “ ignore it, it is still not time for Vedika to leave KM, we haven’t sent it, it never happened” 😡

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Balh2fan


Exactly, their conversation and this coming straight from Vedika is the trigger for him. His friends the entire world was trying to make him see it… he could not.

Now, your #2, Vedika comparing herself to Priya was the clearest comparison for his subconscious. Hence the FB and comparison at each stage… what they did not show was how he interpreted it…


One thing was for sure, he was there physically in the conversation mentally he was on a different tangent altogether. Putting together a lot of missing pieces.



I have different take on Nazar vs Nazriya

As of now, Ram has accepted whatever Priya told him at face value - this is the Nazar part.

After Vedika's talk, he realizes that there is something that is missing here - Priya who was all happy before the interview has a 180-degree change and even reminds him about the deal, so something is bothering her, maybe she is in love with him but afraid to accept it- this is the Nazriya part.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Bana


Actually if Pri had been her usual direct self like she was with the 50k saree bill, she would have told Ram she is getting anon messages from a pvt number & asked help to trace it - easy peasy for a man of his connections, and she knows he loves being asked for help.

Sevondly, it is inconsistent with her character & smartness that she did not mention about the texts to anyone, did not connect it to the texts Akki got, and did not even bother to investigate.

Or Pri cld have asked Neeraj for help - she had used his connections in mobile company to locate Akki once, remember? How resourceful she was in that episode! Missing that smart resourceful practical Pri. Instead we are getting this ishq mein nikkamma Pri.

I think she kind of believes her father is sending those messages . Whenever something goes wrong she thinks it's her dad.
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Posted: 3 years ago

Actually I found it silly that Ram did not straightaway suspect that Priya got to know about Vedika being the ex, before the interview. Firstly Shivi knows abt it, she is naive, close to Pri & a bit of a blabbermouth. Secondly, Sara tells him Akki is suspecting it & he is literally Pri’s guardian. Thirdly, with Vedika living in the house & so many people knowing incl bigmouths like Maami it is not surprising if someone mentions by mistake.

So really I don’t get what is so improbable about Priya learning the secret, that Ram doesnt even suspect it as a reason for her bad mood. Dumbness ki hadh hoti hai!

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: WeRockTheWorld

I think she kind of believes her father is sending those messages . Whenever something goes wrong she thinks it's her dad.



That is believable. But to suspect MS of also orchestrating those me too messsges to Akki & now loverwali messages to Ram?? Kuch zyada nahin ho gaya? She knows him so well, she shd know if he wld do such stuff.

Ghar mein 3 members are getting anon messages from a pvt number. U will not even suspect these are connected?

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Posted: 3 years ago

Nobody suspects anything even if the answer is as large as a kachori to an ant. Nobody observes anything, not even a ransacked room. Nobody questions anyone, even an open credit-grabber. Nobody stops anyone from uttering any nonsense, even proposing to another woman’s husband under her nose. Nobody cross checks their deleted files or messages, even with iphone 13s.


Serial name should be “Bade kachche lagte hain”. All are kaan ke kachche & dimaag se aur kachche!

Edited by Bana - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago

Yesterday's episode was tough to watch.

Ram's fallen face and Priya's heartbroken words were really sad to watch. Hate the fact that Priya has been made to think that she has nothing great about her that nobody will ever truly love her. It truly was heart wrenching 🥺

Moreover the messages and vedhika are playing with her

Ram is utterly dejected that his love may not be reciprocated due to his condition before their marriage. And his hypocrite ex is poisoning his mind. But I don't think he would or is seriously considering her words. It's like he is in a low phase and vedhika is just hitting him in the weakest spot, confusing him further.


EK shows are always like this. The exes will always be present in the main couple's life, either plotting against them or ruining their relationship just by being present. Vedhika is the former category. And Nandini and gang are added villains. Anyways at some point the misunderstandings will have to be cleared. So waiting for that with crossed fingers.

Nakul and Disha will make that worth the wait.

Edited by Sudharies - 3 years ago

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