I think 90s music was overrated and 2000 is underrated - Page 4

Originally posted by: Digitallove

Agree. Don't like 90's music except Rahman and Jatin Lalit. Extremely uninspired and repetitive. 2000's music had better arrangements,the sound quality everything was great. You can almost argue that the rise of Indi-pop in 90's was a result of the monotony in Bollywood music.

thats what my point is , not only rehman ,,,, but shankar ehsan loy the team created such gems in 2000 , the singers who got to see peak in 2000 were quite lucky they got to sing more of different kinds of songs in their carrer for different music directors , else sonu nigam could have not gotten tanhayee had he saw his peak during 90's ,,,,

This song is so much haunting , its music arrangement anything related to this song is such classic , these are the songs define the class of 2000 work

Tanhayee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkwaiIGoyT4

Originally posted by: harun98

mohammed aziz doesn't get a mention who had many iconic songs to his credit.

this question was asked to subhas ghai and he answered it this way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7X_G4ZihKA

The 90s were a fresh breath of air for the music industry in India. After the 80s, which focussed on disco music and Angry Young Man films, Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak changed the scenario for films and music. This was followed by Maine Pyar Kiya in 1989.

From the 1990s, Nadeem-Shravan were not the only names, neither were they dominating. Just because their albums charted #1, that too they owe their entire career to Pakistani songs. I would expect you to know this.

Jatin-Lalit gave their best in films like DDLJ, KKHH, Jo Jeeta Vohi Sikandar. They had influences of RD Burman (who they truly admired) but balanced both Indian and Western styles well. SLB's best album might be Khamoshi, which was created by the brothers.

Viju Shah had Vishwatma, Mohra, Gupt, Bade Miya Chote Miyan. He was known as the Synth King and was literally ahead of his time. He may have not done many film songs, but he did a lot of background scores and made the synth arrangements for many composers, like he did for Tridev (music composed by Kalyanji-Anandji). Today if "music directors" like Tanishk Bagchi are enjoying "success", its due to songs like Tip Tip Barsa, Cheez Badi and Aankh Maare, which were all composed by Viju Shah.

Anu Malik, too, gave some hit albums like Baazigar, Vijaypath, Krishna and Border. He might have had better songs in the 2000s, but he was very much active and did have popular songs.

Anand-Milind were responsible for the music resurgence. Post QSQT, they gave a variety of songs, each in different genre and styles. If Lal Dupatta Malmal Ka, Aayi Milan Ki Raat had the authentic desi Indian sounds (reminiscent of their favourites Laxmikant-Pyarelal); then Coolie No 1, Raja Babu, Hero No 1 were flavoured with masala beats and catchy tunes. On the other hand, they gave some very stylish songs like Sundara Sundara, Sheher Ki Ladki, Sherry Main Ho Gaya Deewana and some very underrated melodious songs like Palkon Pe Chalte Chalte from Daayraa. Each song's rhythm was different, and they gave music for so many films which were not even content based, but because of the songs the films did well.

If there was one duo which really made the 90s, it was them, but they never had PR articles. And I did not become their fan overnight, the more I listened to their music, the more I understood each and every minute detail of their songs.

You might state that they were known for lifting a lot of Illayaraja's songs but there have been multiple interviews where they themselves have stated that it was the music company and producers who would force them to do so. And in a film career of 250 films, 1000 songs, there were less than 50 that fall in the plagiarism bracket. Anand ji has posted on his own Instagram about an incident, covering one such song.

Overall, if I have to summarise, then to generalise the 90s based on Nadeem-Shravan with their one style tabla-dholak and Kumar Sanu combo, then its absolutely ridiculous, especially because it undermines others who have given more variety than the 2000s ever had. And this is not saying Sanu was a bad singer, he is the same guy who sang songs like Main Toh Raste Se Jaa Raha Tha and Sarkailo Khatiya Jaadha Lage.

There is a reason why songs up till the 90s are still played on the radio and are sung in reality shows.

90s is resurgence for music after disastrous commercial music of 80s.

Film music and indipop both were refreshing at that time. Singers got more options from 90s as they cut their own albums. Sonu's independent albums were great in 90s and their success is reason why he began to get more work in 2000s.

Same for new talents like Preeti Pinky who first made it in independent songs they released.

90s sort of revived and refreshed music with new style, new voices and different types of lyrics, a complete departure from kind of music that was being made from 50s to 80s.

Concerts, TV shows, independent albums gave way more variety of options to music industry than what they had earlier. Asha, Lata, Jagjit, Gulzar etc also released wonderful independent compositions and launched own albums then. A kind of creative freedom singers lacked earlier.

BTW I admire the passion you have for Sonu as a fan.

Originally posted by: Ashley.Tisdale

The 90s were a fresh breath of air for the music industry in India. After the 80s, which focussed on disco music and Angry Young Man films, Qayamat Se Qayamat Tak changed the scenario for films and music. This was followed by Maine Pyar Kiya in 1989.

From the 1990s, Nadeem-Shravan were not the only names, neither were they dominating. Just because their albums charted #1, that too they owe their entire career to Pakistani songs. I would expect you to know this.

Jatin-Lalit gave their best in films like DDLJ, KKHH, Jo Jeeta Vohi Sikandar. They had influences of RD Burman (who they truly admired) but balanced both Indian and Western styles well. SLB's best album might be Khamoshi, which was created by the brothers.

Viju Shah had Vishwatma, Mohra, Gupt, Bade Miya Chote Miyan. He was known as the Synth King and was literally ahead of his time. He may have not done many film songs, but he did a lot of background scores and made the synth arrangements for many composers, like he did for Tridev (music composed by Kalyanji-Anandji). Today if "music directors" like Tanishk Bagchi are enjoying "success", its due to songs like Tip Tip Barsa, Cheez Badi and Aankh Maare, which were all composed by Viju Shah.

Anu Malik, too, gave some hit albums like Baazigar, Vijaypath, Krishna and Border. He might have had better songs in the 2000s, but he was very much active and did have popular songs.

Anand-Milind were responsible for the music resurgence. Post QSQT, they gave a variety of songs, each in different genre and styles. If Lal Dupatta Malmal Ka, Aayi Milan Ki Raat had the authentic desi Indian sounds (reminiscent of their favourites Laxmikant-Pyarelal); then Coolie No 1, Raja Babu, Hero No 1 were flavoured with masala beats and catchy tunes. On the other hand, they gave some very stylish songs like Sundara Sundara, Sheher Ki Ladki, Sherry Main Ho Gaya Deewana and some very underrated melodious songs like Palkon Pe Chalte Chalte from Daayraa. Each song's rhythm was different, and they gave music for so many films which were not even content based, but because of the songs the films did well.

If there was one duo which really made the 90s, it was them, but they never had PR articles. And I did not become their fan overnight, the more I listened to their music, the more I understood each and every minute detail of their songs.

You might state that they were known for lifting a lot of Illayaraja's songs but there have been multiple interviews where they themselves have stated that it was the music company and producers who would force them to do so. And in a film career of 250 films, 1000 songs, there were less than 50 that fall in the plagiarism bracket. Anand ji has posted on his own Instagram about an incident, covering one such song.

Overall, if I have to summarise, then to generalise the 90s based on Nadeem-Shravan with their one style tabla-dholak and Kumar Sanu combo, then its absolutely ridiculous, especially because it undermines others who have given more variety than the 2000s ever had. And this is not saying Sanu was a bad singer, he is the same guy who sang songs like Main Toh Raste Se Jaa Raha Tha and Sarkailo Khatiya Jaadha Lage.

There is a reason why songs up till the 90s are still played on the radio and are sung in reality shows.

i generalize all of them under the 90's bracket but nadeem shravan is highlighted more because they were super star composers after aashiuqe.....and by looking all the songs of anand miland , anu malik in the 90's , still that era had more of limited style of songs which were being produced then , and singers had not much to do to variate, anand miland songs were good energetic for that era , sajid wajid songs had much more energy and power than songs like akhiyon se goli mare , or main toh raste se jaraha .....all those songs were good for their specific times , and in modren music not to forget likes of saleem suleman , vishal shekher contribution ,.... to be particular an album like dil chahata hai is not found under the greats of 1990's where every song is different and unique , apart from rehman's dil se or taal

Originally posted by: atominis

90s is resurgence for music after disastrous commercial music of 80s.

Film music and indipop both were refreshing at that time. Singers got more options from 90s as they cut their own albums. Sonu's independent albums were great in 90s and their success is reason why he began to get more work in 2000s.

Same for new talents like Preeti Pinky who first made it in independent songs they released.

90s sort of revived and refreshed music with new style, new voices and different types of lyrics, a complete departure from kind of music that was being made from 50s to 80s.

Concerts, TV shows, independent albums gave way more variety of options to music industry than what they had earlier. Asha, Lata, Jagjit, Gulzar etc also released wonderful independent compositions and launched own albums then. A kind of creative freedom singers lacked earlier.

BTW I admire the passion you have for Sonu as a fan.

private music is a very different thing , i am talking about the limitations of the kind of songs 90s film music had produced , and regarding being sonu fan i assume that it was his good luck that he got to see his peak during 00's else would have under same category of being a monotonous singer like many 1990s mainstream singers were got to due to lack of variety or probably diversity their hardly were any semi classical number or anything which can really showcase the calibre of a singer other than just to sing hey heyyy la la la la tujey dekha jana sanam etc 😉 something more challenging

IDK how can you call all 90s singers monotonous. Only Kumar Sanu and Alka Yagnik can be called typecast. Udit Narayan, Abhijeet, Vinod Rathod, Roop Kumar Rathod, Hema Sardesai, Penaz, Poonam, Kavita Krishnamurthy, Sukhwinder Singh, Jaspinder Narula, Amit Kumar, SPB, young Sonu himself were hardly those typecast singers. They had own style and they gave hits, chartbusters.

In 2000s we also have different kinds of films being made unlike 90s when films were only romantic types or comedies or action. Films made in 2000s had more scope for different music as they also had different types of stories. Films like 3 Idiots, RDB, for eg were unthinkable in 90s.

Rahman's albums of 90s are diverse, have variety and are gold. He was brilliant in Rangeela, Roja, Bombay, Gentleman and not just Taal or Dil Se. I feel you are being unfair to Rahman's 90s albums by ignoring those that probably have no Sonu song in them like Taal and Dil Se. Every Rahman album of 90s can beat DCH hands down. That is how brilliant he was in 90s when he changed face of Indian film music.

Originally posted by: atominis

IDK how can you call all 90s singers monotonous. Only Kumar Sanu and Alka Yagnik can be called typecast. Udit Narayan, Abhijeet, Vinod Rathod, Roop Kumar Rathod, Hema Sardesai, Penaz, Poonam, Kavita Krishnamurthy, Sukhwinder Singh, Jaspinder Narula, Amit Kumar, SPB, young Sonu himself were hardly those typecast singers. They had own style and they gave hits, chartbusters.

In 2000s we also have different kinds of films being made unlike 90s when films were only romantic types or comedies or action. Films made in 2000s had more scope for different music as they also had different types of stories. Films like 3 Idiots, RDB, for eg were unthinkable in 90s.

naa i rank udit narayan under the monotonous tag too udit narayan never change his singing voice to different songs u can not expect udit narayan to sing a jeene ke hain char din or Ding Dong song of KK from kuch toh hai kind of songs it will not suite his voice , same is case with abhijeet ,,, they all were romantic voices never utilised differently for differnt kinds of songs........Kavita krsnamurthy was a versatile singer , Jaspinder narula again was typedcasted for bhangra type songs , Vinod was a again a versatile singer his voice was unique too

Originally posted by: atominis

Rahman's albums of 90s are diverse, have variety and are gold. He was brilliant in Rangeela, Roja, Bombay, Gentleman and not just Taal or Dil Se. I feel you are being unfair to Rahman's 90s albums by ignoring those that probably have no Sonu song in them like Taal and Dil Se. Every Rahman album of 90s can beat DCH hands down. That is how brilliant he was in 90s when he changed face of Indian film music.

i can never compare rehman and shankar ehsan loy together, rehman was a pioneer of different styles of songs in bollywood but shankar ehsan loy was no lesser in term of being versatile composers