Udariyaan | Episode Discussion Thread #43 - Page 67

i toh stopped watching pretty much end of last week ish. 3 reasons:

1) J won- clear and simple. who even cares about fatichar's ego trip. yeh log jaye na jaye its all immaterial. no punishment for her.

2) T has become the most toxic of them all. frankly with angad having a child involved- anyone who bends over backwards to facilitate their abuser is just not fit to parent. she facilitated jassu's abusive behaviour as if she had done things worth a slap on the wrist such as overdosing KSV and leaking exam papers. frankly angad should not be with her. anyone incapable of recognising her own abuse simply can't get out of that cycle- same as prerna in KZK. she was 'happy' with bajaj but could never get over her abusive relationship with anurag. not here for chap 3 of that story AGAIN.

3) the tamasha is just not high enough to tolerate any of this. i saw an insta vid of beeji being a boss and handing fateh money lol but the rest is mostly slow shots of fatichar's saada hua shakal at angad tejo whilst he makes sad eye love to tejo and she reciprocates. less of that more of fateli being made a joke of would be welcome. f doesn't get nearly enough shit. t protects him all the time- typical stockholm syndrome love for abuser 🤢

SOOO...I QUIT!

Been working all day so didn’t have time to properly reply today, but been spending time reading through some of the comments.

First I’d just like to say, I’m sorry to see people leaving the show, but that’s totally fair. TV should be enjoyable, and if it’s causing you more grief than enjoyment, that’s totally valid.

I find it interesting that people see Jasmine getting married to Fateh as winning. That’s an interesting point of view. What does it mean to win in a situation like this? She may be getting what she thinks she wants, but at what cost? I think that’s an interesting story. What does it mean to actually love someone? What is worth losing to chase dreams you don’t completely understand? Honestly, I really don’t care for Jasmine as a character - she’s selfish, immature, and completely incapable of taking any accountability for her actions, she’s an extremely flawed human being who cannot recognize those flaws. She’s also done some truly awful things (and it’s downright disgusting carrying on with your sister’s husband), but does that mean she’s completely irredeemable? That she can’t grow and learn from those mistakes? In my experience ITV is not great at exploring characters as whole human beings, especially the characters that are supposed to be seen as “villains”. I just don’t see Jasmine seemingly getting her way as her winning because she actually doesn’t know what she wants. She’s in love with the idea of a lot of things (going to Canada, marrying Fateh, having a grand life, etc.) and people like that are never satisfied and never actually win. I think that’s an interesting angle that can be shown here. You can manipulate your way to getting what you think you want but then what?

Moving onto Tejo, when you’re in a toxic situation, it’s a lot easier to say you’re going to disconnect and leave than it is to leave. It definitely takes time and a lot of strength especially when you don’t have the support system around you to actually make those changes. I appreciate her taking a stand that even though she loves Fateh she’s not going to go back to him. That’s big. Does she still make frustrating decisions because of that love? For family? Loyalty? Yes. She doesn’t know any other way to be. She is a daughter in a family that still prescribes to outdated notions of what it means to be a good daughter, and on top of that there’s the pressure to make up for Jasmine’s behaviour (even if it’s unconscious). I’m born and raised in a completely different country, with significantly more relaxed, chill, and liberal parents/family, and I still feel the pressure sometimes of what it means to be a good Indian daughter. When something is so ingrained in you it takes time to unlearn it. I don’t know how far they’ll take it, but I think Angad pushing her could lead to that journey.

All of that rambling to say that at the end of the day though, it’s ITV, so I probably need to lower my expectations lol

(thanks to anyone that got through all that, I had so many thoughts and I think they may have just come out as a jumble lol)

Originally posted by: Mink

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Tq dear.

Twisted precap😁😁

Phew!

Is tejang getting engaged before jasfa marriage???

Originally posted by: PreetD

Been working all day so didn’t have time to properly reply today, but been spending time reading through some of the comments.

First I’d just like to say, I’m sorry to see people leaving the show, but that’s totally fair. TV should be enjoyable, and if it’s causing you more grief than enjoyment, that’s totally valid.

I find it interesting that people see Jasmine getting married to Fateh as winning. That’s an interesting point of view. What does it mean to win in a situation like this? She may be getting what she thinks she wants, but at what cost? I think that’s an interesting story. What does it mean to actually love someone? What is worth losing to chase dreams you don’t completely understand? Honestly, I really don’t care for Jasmine as a character - she’s selfish, immature, and completely incapable of taking any accountability for her actions, she’s an extremely flawed human being who cannot recognize those flaws. She’s also done some truly awful things (and it’s downright disgusting carrying on with your sister’s husband), but does that mean she’s completely irredeemable? That she can’t grow and learn from those mistakes? In my experience ITV is not great at exploring characters as whole human beings, especially the characters that are supposed to be seen as “villains”. I just don’t see Jasmine seemingly getting her way as her winning because she actually doesn’t know what she wants. She’s in love with the idea of a lot of things (going to Canada, marrying Fateh, having a grand life, etc.) and people like that are never satisfied and never actually win. I think that’s an interesting angle that can be shown here. You can manipulate your way to getting what you think you want but then what?

Moving onto Tejo, when you’re in a toxic situation, it’s a lot easier to say you’re going to disconnect and leave than it is to leave. It definitely takes time and a lot of strength especially when you don’t have the support system around you to actually make those changes. I appreciate her taking a stand that even though she loves Fateh she’s not going to go back to him. That’s big. Does she still make frustrating decisions because of that love? For family? Loyalty? Yes. She doesn’t know any other way to be. She is a daughter in a family that still prescribes to outdated notions of what it means to be a good daughter, and on top of that there’s the pressure to make up for Jasmine’s behaviour (even if it’s unconscious). I’m born and raised in a completely different country, with significantly more relaxed, chill, and liberal parents/family, and I still feel the pressure sometimes of what it means to be a good Indian daughter. When something is so ingrained in you it takes time to unlearn it. I don’t know how far they’ll take it, but I think Angad pushing her could lead to that journey.

All of that rambling to say that at the end of the day though, it’s ITV, so I probably need to lower my expectations lol

(thanks to anyone that got through all that, I had so many thoughts and I think they may have just come out as a jumble lol)

At least u are one of those who agreed with my views.

I have said this numerous times in the forum that jasfa marriage doesn't mean j will win. It will be a loveless bond. F will drift from her. But some members still feel she will win. How will she win?? By getting the wife title?? Naah. Her dreams will be shattered. Tejo will still come indirectly as fateh is falling for her. Jasmin will never be happy and never get her desires fulfilled. Tejo is still on the winning side. Fateh will pine for her and j miserable.

For tejo , these days she is not realistic. Which woman after being cheated will still do favours for husband and sister. Her actions are ridiculous. I am disliking her now. Only watching for angad's antics coz they are fun and refreshing. Otherwise the whole show is so boring

Itvs are fictions for entertainment. Let it be as one and don't allow it to disrupt our feelings. I usually don't get emotiinally attached to their craps. Just watch for time pass and laugh on their stupidity.

Originally posted by: tejaswiniwenham

i toh stopped watching pretty much end of last week ish. 3 reasons:

1) J won- clear and simple. who even cares about fatichar's ego trip. yeh log jaye na jaye its all immaterial. no punishment for her.

2) T has become the most toxic of them all. frankly with angad having a child involved- anyone who bends over backwards to facilitate their abuser is just not fit to parent. she facilitated jassu's abusive behaviour as if she had done things worth a slap on the wrist such as overdosing KSV and leaking exam papers. frankly angad should not be with her. anyone incapable of recognising her own abuse simply can't get out of that cycle- same as prerna in KZK. she was 'happy' with bajaj but could never get over her abusive relationship with anurag. not here for chap 3 of that story AGAIN.

3) the tamasha is just not high enough to tolerate any of this. i saw an insta vid of beeji being a boss and handing fateh money lol but the rest is mostly slow shots of fatichar's saada hua shakal at angad tejo whilst he makes sad eye love to tejo and she reciprocates. less of that more of fateli being made a joke of would be welcome. f doesn't get nearly enough shit. t protects him all the time- typical stockholm syndrome love for abuser 🤢

SOOO...I QUIT!

Didn't Mr.Bajaj (the Ronit Roy character) in KZK1 effectively blackmail Prerna into marrying him? Not to mention that he was also the father of two grown-up kids there, the oldest of which (Tushar I think) was probably closer to Prerna's age!

Angad, on the face of it atleast, is a far better character with more morals than Bajaj 😃

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Ajab Prem ki gajab kahani💔🤡

Originally posted by: Aniash

At least u are one of those who agreed with my views.

I have said this numerous times in the forum that jasfa marriage doesn't mean j will win. It will be a loveless bond. F will drift from her. But some members still feel she will win. How will she win?? By getting the wife title?? Naah. Her dreams will be shattered. Tejo will still come indirectly as fateh is falling for her. Jasmin will never be happy and never get her desires fulfilled. Tejo is still on the winning side. Fateh will pine for her and j miserable.

For tejo , these days she is not realistic. Which woman after being cheated will still do favours for husband and sister. Her actions are ridiculous. I am disliking her now. Only watching for angad's antics coz they are fun and refreshing. Otherwise the whole show is so boring

Itvs are fictions for entertainment. Let it be as one and don't allow it to disrupt our feelings. I usually don't get emotiinally attached to their craps. Just watch for time pass and laugh on their stupidity.

Absolutely, I’m interested in seeing what happens when she gets what she wants. Though honestly, I’m seriously only really watching for TejAng, when I’m not watching with my parents I usually skip most of the other stuff.

And Tejo is interesting. Are her actions annoying and frustrating? Yeah. But I think she’s doing what she’s doing because of that misguided sense of loyalty for a man that was once her friend and the woman that is still her sister.

Originally posted by: PreetD

Absolutely, I’m interested in seeing what happens when she gets what she wants. Though honestly, I’m seriously only really watching for TejAng, when I’m not watching with my parents I usually skip most of the other stuff.

And Tejo is interesting. Are her actions annoying and frustrating? Yeah. But I think she’s doing what she’s doing because of that misguided sense of loyalty for a man that was once her friend and the woman that is still her sister.

In real life no woman goes to that extend. Tejo's actions to me is mere foolishness . Unnecessary dragging angad into the mess as well just becoz she thinks he likes her.

The writers really messed up this time. With all lead characters.

Originally posted by: Aniash

In real life no woman goes to that extend. Tejo's actions to me is mere foolishness . Unnecessary dragging angad into the mess as well just becoz she thinks he likes her.

The writers really messed up this time. With all lead characters.

I agree with all ur comments regarding this Tejoji sach main bokhla gayi hain .😂

Originally posted by: Aniash

At least u are one of those who agreed with my views.

I have said this numerous times in the forum that jasfa marriage doesn't mean j will win. It will be a loveless bond. F will drift from her. But some members still feel she will win. How will she win?? By getting the wife title?? Naah. Her dreams will be shattered. Tejo will still come indirectly as fateh is falling for her. Jasmin will never be happy and never get her desires fulfilled. Tejo is still on the winning side. Fateh will pine for her and j miserable.

For tejo , these days she is not realistic. Which woman after being cheated will still do favours for husband and sister. Her actions are ridiculous. I am disliking her now. Only watching for angad's antics coz they are fun and refreshing. Otherwise the whole show is so boring

Itvs are fictions for entertainment. Let it be as one and don't allow it to disrupt our feelings. I usually don't get emotiinally attached to their craps. Just watch for time pass and laugh on their stupidity.

I too agree that just cause JF are getting married J is winning everything. It might look like winning but she has lost all respect,relations and love from rest family members. Both F and J are drifting apart and are going to lead lonely lives no matter what. And being with someone but still being lonely is worst punishment for life. U know ur husband pines for someone else whom u can never become is torture

Regarding Tejo, it's too much to digest. Rather than doing all this she should have moved to her mami's place till this whole marriage tamasha is over. JF are not children they need to own up to their choices.

U cannot sort their mess now cause u are in this mess because of this same problem