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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Ruhi.007

Isn't having police in one's pocket illegal.


Not necessarily. It's more like a saying. Someone who does good work and people respect him is still said to have that set of people in his pocket. So sonce Raghav had actually been a helping hand to many, it's wierd to think that he has nobody in the police department to help him. Legal or illegal, he is still a personality in the city.


If Pallavi is heart broken, isn't raghav too. His fear of pallavi abandoning him has just come true. Missing to check d house or with krishna does not make him inhuman or stupid.


Raghav's fear of P leaving came true because he chose to stay mum. And it was selfish of him. She's his partner and a thing as big as this was never supposed to be hidden from her. So if R is feeling abandoned right now, it's because of his own cause. And no i am not calling him stupid. I am just calling out things that he should have done if he qas smart enough as he says.


Of course it would have been good if he had checked but I don't think he would ever think to weigh effort vs disappointment. Had it occurred to him he would have checked.


Of course he would have but to think that he didn't is wierd. As i said if someone close to you goes missing, the first place you check is their home and D house is still according to P and R both,her home. Or a place she has high chances of being at.


Anyways it just speculation now whether he had checked or had not checked in with d house & krishna. We can even interpret VDs call to Raghav as a return call to raghav checking in with d house earlier.


It is pretty clear that VD called R after he returned back home to Amma because if the call was made before then R wouldn't have gotten back to RR mansion. Rather we know he's gonna be at D house and even after rejection he's gonna sleep outside. So yes checking D house mattered.


It reminds me of a scene during Mansi's sangeet where Pallavi sets out at night for a saree shop problem without a cell phone or petrol in her bike. She gets into an argument and to one - up raghav takes left from strangers. When the stranger pulls out a gun at pallavi and she is in danger we have Raghav waiting for them blocking their path. Although some people did question as to how he reached the spot where the thugs were abducting pallavi. But it was understood that he followed her thinking of her safety. Not every detail is shown, we have to assume and move on with few details. The smaller details and logistics like if Raghav had checked in with krishna or d house or if he has taken a car with him while searching or had amrutha and pallavi taken a cab while raghav was on foot. Or if Raghav had come back to his house to recharge his phone to call Farhad or to engage few PIs if not police. We cannot know for sure as writers would probably ignore this as they have some 20 episodes approx to close the story and various other story arcs.


By calling out such scenarios of wha the should have done or not, people are just calling out the writers because what R does depends on them. It's not him we're saying something. It's an indirect question to the creators and writer's through talking about his character.


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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Chahat_A_Doshi


Jawab dena padta na kyun humaari beti uske ghar ko uske pati ko chhodkar iss time nikli

kya jawab deta aur ki moonh se

Beti ka milna zyada zroori tha ya kya jawaab dunga woh zyada zaroori tha.

Idk what even R is now!

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Couch.Potato

Have you seen his reaction when Pallavi sobbed in the accident track? He was so cold , that reveal didn’t phase him much . He didn't apologise or comfort her at the end of track instead Pallavi thanked him . Even then it was all about his dilemma and emotions 👎🏼.

When Milind told Vijay, "Raghav achieved justice for your son," but we had just watched Raghav obstructing justice, tampering with a witness, stealing evidence ... until Pallavi found out the truth in spite of Raghav, I knew that Raghav's failings weren't a feature of the story, they were a bug. Whatever Raghav did wrong, we could be told that he did the opposite. Characters that are hurt by Raghav almost never get dialogue to call him out, and when they do, the scene and the music tell us to feel for Raghav and cheer for his name-calling outbursts, just forgive and move on!


I wanted to see Raghav earning Jaya's forgiveness as he progresses from forgetting his promises (e.g. apologize to Manasi for ruining her wedding) to half-heartedly trying to keep his promises (fetching neem leaves but dumping them on Pallavi without making a paste) to caring and succeeding.


I wanted to watch Raghav gradually controlling his urge to get drunk, because he realizes that he's shutting out Pallavi who genuinely wants to comfort him.


I wanted Raghav to encourage Pallavi in her ambitions, and find ways to make amends to Vijay, Sharada, Manasi, Amruta, Nikhil etc. Now that the show has run out of time to make use of its supporting characters, the only way to get what I want is to write more chapters of my Delivery Boy story.


The problem with Raghav is that the creative team has zero interest in honest storytelling. They want Raghav to do outrageous things that hurt other characters, just to get people to watch, and then those characters are either given different and absurd reasons to hate Raghav ("Mandar is in jail because of him") so that their valid grievances are forgotten, or made to sing Raghav's praises.

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Posted: 4 years ago

The episode looks good today . Finally Amma slapped Esha 🥳. Can’t wait to watch the episode .

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: nikkiGarg

man I so want to come back to my forum because the days are numbered but reading comments here makes me rethink my decision… I may get more detached to Raghav Pallavi after this. let this end on a happy note for me..😔


Nikki🤗🤗

I am so happy to see you back here😃

Main kya hi bolun. I am sailing in the same boat. I keep watching precaps and nothing gets me back to watching the episodes. I watched today's precap and whilst I do like Raghav trying to win Pallavi back , the dialogues given to Sai are such mediocre that it doesnt match up to his acting.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: DaffodilsNew


Nikki🤗🤗

I am so happy to see you back here😃

Main kya hi bolun. I am sailing in the same boat. I keep watching precaps and nothing gets me back to watching the episodes. I watched today's precap and whilst I do like Raghav trying to win Pallavi back , the dialogues given to Sai are such mediocre that it doesnt match up to his acting.

🤗 true dear … I missed you all and our early morning chitchats… I am so sad that show is ending and I didn’t even get a chance to come back… I think they are gonna stretch this Esha track till the last day so no hopes there.. I haven’t watched episode post mandar track so not sure whether the whitewashing of Sunny started or not? considering Kirti is pregnant…

trust me when I say it.. we didn’t get a cute romantic evening for the lead couple but we got so many romantic sequences of SunKi…Kirti is bound to be pregnant…

what’s the use of keeping Raghav shirtless in almost every episode… the married couple had no fun at night.. whereas he was drunk once and lost his virginity (or self imposed celibacy) to his ex…

I don’t know what writers are trying to write… may be they are on the way to wrap up the show.. and that’s why writing has gone shoddy…

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: unicornwriter

My thoughts in colors.

My replies in pink. Sorry the original colors are getting over written when I am copying. So I had to put yours in blue. Thanks for reaching through such long post and taking time to reply.


Isn't having police in one's pocket illegal.


Not necessarily. It's more like a saying. Someone who does good work and people respect him is still said to have that set of people in his pocket. So sonce Raghav had actually been a helping hand to many, it's wierd to think that he has nobody in the police department to help him. Legal or illegal, he is still a personality in the city.


I meant technically using influence or good will for having the police search for a missing person before 24 hrs is illegal. Even if RR was to go illegal he might not much have that much influence any more seeing as to how sumit is not behind the bars yet.


If Pallavi is heart broken, isn't raghav too. His fear of pallavi abandoning him has just come true. Missing to check d house or with krishna does not make him inhuman or stupid.


Raghav's fear of P leaving came true because he chose to stay mum. And it was selfish of him. She's his partner and a thing as big as this was never supposed to be hidden from her. So if R is feeling abandoned right now, it's because of his own cause. And no i am not calling him stupid. I am just calling out things that he should have done if he qas smart enough as he says.


Raghav mistakes definitely caused pallavi to leave. Just because his deeds are the causation of his pain does not mean his pain would be lesser than Pallavi's. If he was smart enough he would not have been in this situation. But my reply was more to the points where you mentioned pallavi was not thinking straight due to grief.


Of course it would have been good if he had checked but I don't think he would ever think to weigh effort vs disappointment. Had it occurred to him he would have checked.


Of course he would have but to think that he didn't is wierd. As i said if someone close to you goes missing, the first place you check is their home and D house is still according to P and R both,her home. Or a place she has high chances of being at.

I don't think I am very objective when it comes d house. I'd rather wish both p and r not think d house as home and we be rid of the characters from our screen..


Anyways it just speculation now whether he had checked or had not checked in with d house & krishna. We can even interpret VDs call to Raghav as a return call to raghav checking in with d house earlier.


It is pretty clear that VD called R after he returned back home to Amma because if the call was made before then R wouldn't have gotten back to RR mansion. Rather we know he's gonna be at D house and even after rejection he's gonna sleep outside. So yes checking D house mattered.


By earlier, I meant raghav could have called VD while searching and he could have left a message asking to call him if pallavi comes there.


It reminds me of a scene during Mansi's sangeet where Pallavi sets out at night for a saree shop problem without a cell phone or petrol in her bike. She gets into an argument and to one - up raghav takes left from strangers. When the stranger pulls out a gun at pallavi and she is in danger we have Raghav waiting for them blocking their path. Although some people did question as to how he reached the spot where the thugs were abducting pallavi. But it was understood that he followed her thinking of her safety. Not every detail is shown, we have to assume and move on with few details. The smaller details and logistics like if Raghav had checked in with krishna or d house or if he has taken a car with him while searching or had amrutha and pallavi taken a cab while raghav was on foot. Or if Raghav had come back to his house to recharge his phone to call Farhad or to engage few PIs if not police. We cannot know for sure as writers would probably ignore this as they have some 20 episodes approx to close the story and various other story arcs.


By calling out such scenarios of wha the should have done or not, people are just calling out the writers because what R does depends on them. It's not him we're saying.


Just wanted to say some minute details might not be shown on the screen due to constraints like actors absence (krishna) or time constraints.

I understand criticizing R is criticising the writers after all it is their creation. But it is still interesting to dissect as to what part of the character graph was originally planned and executed and what part had been deviated to accommodate the TRP or some track. I usually say it is the writers who are messing up when I don't see any evidence of such behaviour in earlier episodes because it does not seem fit in the character the writers originally drew.

TLDR:

The point in the long post here, Imo RR was not callous about a woman's safety. He never was, even when pallavi was his enemy. Why would he do that now? Regardless of what he did or did not do with esha, he did not ditch pallavi to her own pain and come home.

I had not replied to the posts where raghav was called a cheater, I understand it is upto interpretation now and different people can feel differently. But this was about RR's basic traits which we have seen from the longest time.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Chahat_A_Doshi


Jawab dena padta na kyun humaari beti uske ghar ko uske pati ko chhodkar iss time nikli

kya jawab deta aur ki moonh se

It was interesting that pallavi did not share her troubles with mansi or d fam. Well it is good as they are the sort who would be happy with her misery.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: unicornwriter

Beti ka milna zyada zroori tha ya kya jawaab dunga woh zyada zaroori tha.

Idk what even R is now!

Ismein kya sochna read the following and answer mil jaayega

i'm sorry

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