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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: joliefemme


Bold, I wanna know these 🤣


Yes emotional distancing will do him a number. I'm so waiting for him to get a good dose. God pls keep P strong and not succumb too soon. I really want to see angst now. It's been a whole month I've enjoyed the show and my patience is wearing thin.


Yes please meko bhi bataao Liyah🤣


I will take anything at this point Ren: angst, separation, pain, tears, blood, grief, heartbreak, trauma, distancing, push and pull, confrontations, fights. Sicku has turned me into a sadist, I'll take my leads suffering in any form or manner and have my heart broken in the process too, as long as this track is wrapped up in a nice, sensible and logical (LOL) manner with a meaningful progress in RaghVi's relationship dynamic.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: rubys07


Yes please meko bhi bataao Liyah🤣


I will take anything at this point Ren: angst, separation, pain, tears, blood, grief, heartbreak, trauma, distancing, push and pull, confrontations, fights. Sicku has turned me into a sadist, I'll take my leads suffering in any form or manner and have my heart broken in the process too, as long as this track is wrapped up in a nice, sensible and logical (LOL) manner with a meaningful progress in RaghVi's relationship dynamic.


Plus 100 Ru. I want R to suffer and win back her love and trust and both of them together get rid of the extras in their lives. In the process, they should realise that they both matter most for eo and rest everyone is temporary.


Next week I'm keeping my hopes. Ek mahine se yeh track ka wait ho raha hain bring me the angst now, like RIGHT NOW.

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Posted: 4 years ago

To make something solid and tough, weak structures need to break. Only then foundations of something new can be laid.


This is where I see Pallavi and Raghav's relationship at this point in time. They found each other with great effort caught in the mesh of life, they have lost each other somewhere. Now if they want to find the same love, they need to first let go all the past burdens, burn the old miseries and then rise back from the ashes. This is essential for them.


Raghav is not able to accept himself and own up his mistakes, how will be accept Pallavi and her love.

"You are not worth"

"You are inadequate and regrettable"

"You are undeserving"

"You will stay wretched all your life"


These are the words he was subjected to for 10 precious years of his life by none other than his own mother. It's etched into his subconscious and such scars doesn't vanish so soon.


Besides, he has been alone... so he was accustomed to sorting his issues himself, I have seen such people and know that it really really takes time for them to open up and start sharing. Not because they don't want to. But because, they are not accustomed to it and they don't know how to do it. It takes time to break these walls. Raghvi relationship has still not matured to that stage because they have had no time. Especially after love confession it has been about expectations rather than just letting go and being themselves with each other.

So today when he feels helpless and broken, I am not surprised. He tries to hold onto things so tight that instead of repairing them, he breaks them further. The wounds that he has suffered are even the old ones which honestly never healed. And now he has inflicted fresh ones on his already broken self. He feels once again, he has made a blunder and now its like he's giving up. Waiting for someone to pick up the next stone and hurl at him and outcast him all over again. So far he only fears that Pallavi will leave him, but the severity of the impact hasn't hit him yet. Maybe he's yet not able to let his subconscious wrap his head around the possibility of her actually leaving because somewhere, her promises that she's not going anywhere also lurks. Everytime, she comes back. So he's not thinking what will happen post her departure and how he needs to be desperate to prevent her from leaving.

After the revelation, when she actually leaves, thats when he'll jolt out of his guilt and rush to get her back. It's like how for 10 long years, he kept begging Amma to take him back. He kept repenting. He kept hating himself. This time too, he's going to land into the same ditch where he'll take anything that she offers to hold her back. (Please writers... for once kuch acha likh do)

Currently he's in a vortex of self-pity and self-loathing. This is soon gonna turn into a windstorm leading to the path of self-destruction because if she's not around, there's no anchor to hold the beast inside him.


P.S. Will write about Pallavi in sometime

Edited by euphoric - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: euphoric

To make something solid and tough, weak structures need to break. Only then foundations of something new can be laid.


This is where I see Pallavi and Raghav's relationship at this point in time. They found each other with great effort caught in the mesh of life, they have lost each other somewhere. Now if they want to find the same love, they need to first let go all the past burdens, burn the old miseries and then rise back from the ashes. This is essential for them.


Raghav is not able to accept himself and own up his mistakes, how will be accept Pallavi and her love.

"You are not worth"

"You are inadequate and regrettable"

"You are undeserving"

"You will stay wretched all your life"


These are the words he was subjected to for 10 precious years of his life by none other than his own mother. It's etched into his subconscious and such scars doesn't vanish so soon.


Besides, he has been alone... so he was accustomed to sorting his issues himself, I have seen such people and know that it really really takes time for them to open up and start sharing. Not because they don't want to. But because, they are not accustomed to it and they don't know how to do it. It takes time to break these walls. Raghvi relationship has still not matured to that stage because they have had no time. Especially after love confession it has been about expectations rather than just letting go and being themselves with each other.

So today when he feels helpless and broken, I am not surprised. He tries to hold onto things so tight that instead of repairing them, he breaks them further. The wounds that he has suffered are even the old ones which honestly never healed. And now he has inflicted fresh ones on his already broken self. He feels once again, he has made a blunder and now its like he's giving up. Waiting for someone to pick up the next stone and hurl at him and outcast him all over again. So far he only fears that Pallavi will leave him, but the severity of the impact hasn't hit him yet. Maybe he's yet not able to let his subconscious wrap his head around the possibility of her actually leaving because somewhere, her promises that she's not going anywhere also lurks. Everytime, she's come back. So he's not thinking what will happen post her departure and how he needs to be desperate to prevent her from leaving.

After the revelation, when she actually leaves, thats when he'll jolt out of his guilt and rush to get her back. It's like how for 10 long years, he kept begging Amma to take him back. He kept repenting. He kept hating himself. This time too, he's going to land into the same ditch where he'll take anything that she offers to hold her back. (Please writers... for once kuch acha likh do)

Currently in a vortex of self-pity and self-loathing. This is soon gonna turn into a windstorm leading to the path of self-destruction because if she's not around, there's no anchor to hold the beast inside him.


P.S. Will write about Pallavi in sometime


This is precisely why I will never cancel Raghav. He repents so so much and just TRIES.


I was telling Liyah yesterday that people have stopped trying. When I see him make an effort I can't think of not giving him a chance. He deserves a chance to make things right, to become a better version of himself, to learn from his mistakes, to be happy.


He's led such a lonely and difficult life. He has made mistakes but his suffering has always been so much more in comparison. Despite receiving forgiveness, the man carries the weight of his guilt and will carry it to his grave.


Even if it takes him a decade to make amends I don't see him stop trying. He will try till she will forgive him.


Waiting for your take on Pals.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: joliefemme


I'm about to leave this beautiful place and get back to the rut. Will reach home in the evening.


Hope the episodes atleast make it worth my return. Angst le aao I'm waiting waiting waiting.


Shivi will do so good. Also hoping R does a lot of naak ragadna to win her back. I'm waiting to see P lash out at R like really really badly and give him a dose of his medicine by doing emotional distancing. Like Fria, I don't trust them as well. Let's see what tadka we are served.


This week is going to.be a dragfest undoubtedly.


Kuch aur dikhayen ya nhi dikhaye pr meri dilli khawhish hai ki raghav se pahle sunny deserve a tight slap from his wife kirti😆

Pata nhi kyo pr mera bada mann hai usse bahut shayk hai na biwi k haathon apti ki pitai krane ka...makers atleast ye ek wish to poori kr dein pr mujhe maloom hai sikku ka sunny prem aisa nhi hone dega😭

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: euphoric

To make something solid and tough, weak structures need to break. Only then foundations of something new can be laid.


This is where I see Pallavi and Raghav's relationship at this point in time. They found each other with great effort caught in the mesh of life, they have lost each other somewhere. Now if they want to find the same love, they need to first let go all the past burdens, burn the old miseries and then rise back from the ashes. This is essential for them.


Raghav is not able to accept himself and own up his mistakes, how will be accept Pallavi and her love.

"You are not worth"

"You are inadequate and regrettable"

"You are undeserving"

"You will stay wretched all your life"


These are the words he was subjected to for 10 precious years of his life by none other than his own mother. It's etched into his subconscious and such scars doesn't vanish so soon.


Besides, he has been alone... so he was accustomed to sorting his issues himself, I have seen such people and know that it really really takes time for them to open up and start sharing. Not because they don't want to. But because, they are not accustomed to it and they don't know how to do it. It takes time to break these walls. Raghvi relationship has still not matured to that stage because they have had no time. Especially after love confession it has been about expectations rather than just letting go and being themselves with each other.

So today when he feels helpless and broken, I am not surprised. He tries to hold onto things so tight that instead of repairing them, he breaks them further. The wounds that he has suffered are even the old ones which honestly never healed. And now he has inflicted fresh ones on his already broken self. He feels once again, he has made a blunder and now its like he's giving up. Waiting for someone to pick up the next stone and hurl at him and outcast him all over again. So far he only fears that Pallavi will leave him, but the severity of the impact hasn't hit him yet. Maybe he's yet not able to let his subconscious wrap his head around the possibility of her actually leaving because somewhere, her promises that she's not going anywhere also lurks. Everytime, she comes back. So he's not thinking what will happen post her departure and how he needs to be desperate to prevent her from leaving.

After the revelation, when she actually leaves, thats when he'll jolt out of his guilt and rush to get her back. It's like how for 10 long years, he kept begging Amma to take him back. He kept repenting. He kept hating himself. This time too, he's going to land into the same ditch where he'll take anything that she offers to hold her back. (Please writers... for once kuch acha likh do)

Currently he's in a vortex of self-pity and self-loathing. This is soon gonna turn into a windstorm leading to the path of self-destruction because if she's not around, there's no anchor to hold the beast inside him.


P.S. Will write about Pallavi in sometime


Soni, this is everything I've been saying for the last couple of months, and this is why I've never been able to give up on him. He is frustrating at times, and makes me want to scream at him but I can never give up on the Raghav or the Pallavi I've come to love in all these episodes.

@b: This. I see people often judging his actions or words and questioning why he can't just do something, without understanding that it's not that easy. I personally relate to a lot of his insecurities and I know it's not that easy. Raghav's trauma is so much bigger. It's the default mode for people like him, who are used to being pushed and shoved aside and hurt by the world, and who are used to fighting their own battles with all those raw wounds that no one tends to. He still can't let go of his armor because it's become his second skin, and he's still not come to terms with the fact that there are people in his life now (especially his "zindagi", his Pallavi) who would shield him against all the pain and the hurt he's been fighting all alone. I mentioned this earlier too: it's like his self-fulfilling prophecy, like he's stuck in his own hell loop where the moment he thinks he's messed it up, he gives up on even the idea of hoping for forgiveness and finding a way to fix things, because he's doomed now anyway. But yes @red, this needs to happen because no matter how slow it is, there must be some progress in him as an individual if he wants to move forward. He thinks he doesn't deserve Pallavi's love, that he can't really love her the way she deserves to be loved, and that's partly because he is not able to love himself, because he's always seeing himself as a lesser human being who lucked out and ended up with Pallavi. He was ready to even be chastised by Amma in the earlier episodes, if that meant he got to talk to her. We might see something similar here IF the writers are meherbaan.

Would love to read your views on Pallavi too❤️

Edited by rubys07 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: euphoric

To make something solid and tough, weak structures need to break. Only then foundations of something new can be laid.


This is where I see Pallavi and Raghav's relationship at this point in time. They found each other with great effort caught in the mesh of life, they have lost each other somewhere. Now if they want to find the same love, they need to first let go all the past burdens, burn the old miseries and then rise back from the ashes. This is essential for them.


Raghav is not able to accept himself and own up his mistakes, how will be accept Pallavi and her love.

"You are not worth"

"You are inadequate and regrettable"

"You are undeserving"

"You will stay wretched all your life"


These are the words he was subjected to for 10 precious years of his life by none other than his own mother. It's etched into his subconscious and such scars doesn't vanish so soon.


Besides, he has been alone... so he was accustomed to sorting his issues himself, I have seen such people and know that it really really takes time for them to open up and start sharing. Not because they don't want to. But because, they are not accustomed to it and they don't know how to do it. It takes time to break these walls. Raghvi relationship has still not matured to that stage because they have had no time. Especially after love confession it has been about expectations rather than just letting go and being themselves with each other.

So today when he feels helpless and broken, I am not surprised. He tries to hold onto things so tight that instead of repairing them, he breaks them further. The wounds that he has suffered are even the old ones which honestly never healed. And now he has inflicted fresh ones on his already broken self. He feels once again, he has made a blunder and now its like he's giving up. Waiting for someone to pick up the next stone and hurl at him and outcast him all over again. So far he only fears that Pallavi will leave him, but the severity of the impact hasn't hit him yet. Maybe he's yet not able to let his subconscious wrap his head around the possibility of her actually leaving because somewhere, her promises that she's not going anywhere also lurks. Everytime, she comes back. So he's not thinking what will happen post her departure and how he needs to be desperate to prevent her from leaving.

After the revelation, when she actually leaves, thats when he'll jolt out of his guilt and rush to get her back. It's like how for 10 long years, he kept begging Amma to take him back. He kept repenting. He kept hating himself. This time too, he's going to land into the same ditch where he'll take anything that she offers to hold her back. (Please writers... for once kuch acha likh do)

Currently he's in a vortex of self-pity and self-loathing. This is soon gonna turn into a windstorm leading to the path of self-destruction because if she's not around, there's no anchor to hold the beast inside him.


P.S. Will write about Pallavi in sometime

So beautifully written Sonia! 😃

You have brought out his heart here.

Today especially we got to see how low he thinks of himself. And how he is constantly comparing himself to Pallavi. This baggage of insecurities and this inferiority in front of Pallavi are making him do everything, right or wrong to match up to Pallavi, to prevent her from leaving, to make himself worthy, more like to make Pallavi feel that he is worthy, because he believes that the next moment, all will be taken away.
I remember when he gets the news of Keerthi’s pregnancy and he says, I’ve never received any happiness in my life without difficulty and that’s what he expects in every situation. The Hyd scene after coming to know of Keerthi’s truth, at the bar & in front of Farhad, why all good things in life bypass him. Why does he have to struggle for everything?

So now he’s accepted that. He can’t believe that Pallavi might easily understand him, so he kept hiding and creating a bigger mess that’s going to blow up in his real bad.

The post revelation scenario that you have mentioned is so striking. The actual effect of her leaving, he has not comprehended yet. Initially he thought she’ll leave, so he hid the truth, wanted to die rather than face her. Then he felt it was unfair to her, so he mustered up the courage to confess and that didn’t work out. When you don’t want to fo something and you find obstacles, you’ll tell your mind that it’s best not done and he finally decided to not tell but rather make everything better for her. He didn’t account for the guilt that’s eating him away, which in turn is affecting Pallavi through his actions. He’s still in the guilt with some confidence that she’ll never know the truth and he’s learning how to live with it. So he’s actually removed her leaving from his mind. But it’s going to happen! It’s going to destroy everything! As you said, it’s going to unleash the self destructive beast, now that his anchor is lost.

I have no doubt about his trying. I have no doubt that he’ll do everything till the point he feels that Pallavi deserves better. And even then, I don’t see Raghav not trying for Pallavi, not trying to make things right.

He might fall but he’ll rise again. The love is there, but now they have to come together shedding that baggage behind.

The jolting and the rushing, that’s what I’m excited about😃. Let’s hope that CVs don’t disappoint us

@boldColored Text That was so beautiful and perfect. I could just about imagine it and RR is capable of that aandhi and toofan that Pallavi calls him.

I am waiting to read your Pallavi’s story as well😃

Edited by laughingmonkey - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: euphoric

To make something solid and tough, weak structures need to break. Only then foundations of something new can be laid.


This is where I see Pallavi and Raghav's relationship at this point in time. They found each other with great effort caught in the mesh of life, they have lost each other somewhere. Now if they want to find the same love, they need to first let go all the past burdens, burn the old miseries and then rise back from the ashes. This is essential for them.


Raghav is not able to accept himself and own up his mistakes, how will be accept Pallavi and her love.

"You are not worth"

"You are inadequate and regrettable"

"You are undeserving"

"You will stay wretched all your life"


These are the words he was subjected to for 10 precious years of his life by none other than his own mother. It's etched into his subconscious and such scars doesn't vanish so soon.


Besides, he has been alone... so he was accustomed to sorting his issues himself, I have seen such people and know that it really really takes time for them to open up and start sharing. Not because they don't want to. But because, they are not accustomed to it and they don't know how to do it. It takes time to break these walls. Raghvi relationship has still not matured to that stage because they have had no time. Especially after love confession it has been about expectations rather than just letting go and being themselves with each other.

So today when he feels helpless and broken, I am not surprised. He tries to hold onto things so tight that instead of repairing them, he breaks them further. The wounds that he has suffered are even the old ones which honestly never healed. And now he has inflicted fresh ones on his already broken self. He feels once again, he has made a blunder and now its like he's giving up. Waiting for someone to pick up the next stone and hurl at him and outcast him all over again. So far he only fears that Pallavi will leave him, but the severity of the impact hasn't hit him yet. Maybe he's yet not able to let his subconscious wrap his head around the possibility of her actually leaving because somewhere, her promises that she's not going anywhere also lurks. Everytime, she comes back. So he's not thinking what will happen post her departure and how he needs to be desperate to prevent her from leaving.

After the revelation, when she actually leaves, thats when he'll jolt out of his guilt and rush to get her back. It's like how for 10 long years, he kept begging Amma to take him back. He kept repenting. He kept hating himself. This time too, he's going to land into the same ditch where he'll take anything that she offers to hold her back. (Please writers... for once kuch acha likh do)

Currently he's in a vortex of self-pity and self-loathing. This is soon gonna turn into a windstorm leading to the path of self-destruction because if she's not around, there's no anchor to hold the beast inside him.


P.S. Will write about Pallavi in sometime

As a reserved person myself, who struggles to let things out, I relate to Raghav. We don't know how to do it, or more so the question is can we do it. Can I bare my heart with this person and expect emapthy and compassion? Will the said person understand or at least try to understand my issues without making fun of them? These questions force him to keep things to himself. Plus Pallavi's trust (in her words, in my opinion, its expectation) that Esha doesn't affect Raghav, when in reality, it does, makes it harder for him to confide in her that Esha does affect him and what happened in Warangal. Having said that, Esha affects Raghav not because he has romantic feelings for her, its because he has memories (both good and bad), knowledge and sympathy about her.


Now what happens after revelation, he needs to sort things out with himself, his past, before he sorts it out with Pallavi. As much as he wants, he can't follow "I will do whatever you say" path with Pallavi, like he did with Amma-Keerti because its cause similar conflicts like it has now. Along with vicious cycle of breaking promises, hurt and guilt.

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Posted: 4 years ago

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If Pallavi leaves (on finding out that Raghav lied to her) before Esha's truth comes out to everyone then it's highly likely for her to come back as PRR the lioness to save her Raghav and her family (the Raos) from evil Esha. Do you think Esha will be here during the whole separation track? I think she'll be here for the whole thing until RaghVi resolve their differences and reunite, similar to the Mandar track.

Whether she comes back or not, I really want her to distance herself from Raghav for a while. It's possible to care for him and wanting to protect him and the Raos without forgiving him and letting go. At the eod, Pallavi is very different from us and she might choose to do the raat gayi baat gayi thing after a while, also because like you guys were saying, ITV hardly ever does justice to FL's side of the story.

I want Raghav's redemption man, IDC how they go about doing it but I really want one after all the things he's putting P through. Once that's out of the way, he'd have again rightfully earned the love he now thinks he doesn't deserve.

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Looks like the TRP increased and the talk is not because of the sh***y track but because of fans watching for the hardworking leads the Tazbus….

So hopefully writers don’t change the story again riding high on the increase in TRP and continue to dish out E+S crap.

What you have written totally makes sense Ruby. I want to see the PRR the girl who is on fire 🔥 And gives left right and center to EshSun.

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Posted: 4 years ago

It seems yesterday live was for promo shoot and truth will reveal during Diwali celebration


This way they will ruin diwali in show 😆

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