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Posted: 4 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: tptwi


Because that is who Sai is. At least to me. She says things that she does not mean, often times in order to convince herself. Hasn't she always used strong words even when inside she has felt quite the opposite? But today, even more than this, I felt as if her words were less about her not going home with Virat and more about her expressing her pain. Despite the fact that she has basically already forgiven Virat at this point, she is still deeply hurt. It's not easy to forget what he said and what he did. So, there is also a conflict going on here between how she wants to move on by returning with him, but the lingering hurt she is experiencing....this could have been another reason for her words vs. actions/expressions. I agree with you that her words didn't show dilemma, but to me, that wasn't needed to bring across the state she was in.

Yes i know what you mean. But thats why i was hoping we would continue to see the vulnerable Sai in this track for a change. Where she does not bother to put up her strong facade like she normally does. Especially coz thete was no pp/Trimurti around. Only her Virat Sir. She wasnt hiding her vulnerability in the past few episodes.... So i wish her words , body language, expressions everything had been in sync about reflecting her dilemma.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nja91

Highlight of the episode is Ashwini bajaoing pp and virat! Uff. Ashwini shredded pp to bits today..she was like -galti seh bhi dont come near Virat. I'm still alive- his mother is still alive. how shameless are you that I have to say the same thing over n over. Stop trying to eye Sai's place in Virats life n this house because she has earned it. She clearly told virat too, to focus on his wife and his life. It was awesome! I love watching pp beizzati n truth mirror being shown to her. Ashwini was amazing! I love watching Ashwini drop truth bombs.

Sai literally looks like she has lost all hope, all faith, the shine in her eyes is gone. Her expressions display so well the emptiness she feels. Ayesha is mind-blowing.

So we see Virat ask Sai to come home after completing discharge formalities n there is another conversation between Sairat. Sai looks completely uninterested about her discharge. Once again she says I have no home. That feeling of being a burden is so painful... Ayesha has nailed the expressions. Virat apologizes but Sai rejects it. Shes far too hurt. But i wish they had not shown her "certainity" about not wanting to go back with virat n then flip. I wish they had continued to show her deliberate between her head n heart. Because she looks really sure of herself n then suddenly they will show her backtrack. I know this is how they did it in KD. Where she tells Pulkit she's getting her stuff but eventually after one convo in the bedroom, she decides to stay. But really in KD it becomes obvious that Sai did it all deliberately n had changed her mind in hospital itself. To give another chance to their relationship. She has forgiven him because she sees his guilt. She doesn't express it but in her eyes you see she has melted. She just puts up a facade. I wish unlike KD they make it less dramatic and more real. . I was really hoping to see Sai's struggle n not this pendulum behavior that was typical of Virat. And now Sai is a pendulum too🙄

But it wasnt a bad eppisode.

I just wish they would add some more elements of their own.

But i look forward to their interaction in the bedroom in upcoming. I hope its done nicely. Atleast ek hug toh milna chahiye. I hope its a nice long scene....


The precap is bk doing aarti. This woman is beyond understanding. I dont understand what makers are doing. Why do they show these characters as outright evil n then give us these whitewash scenes. I wonder what bk is doing this drama for. She clearly didn't care if Sai died toh why aarti drama now 🙄

Actually this is the problem with the show..no consistency of characters dialogues and action with previous situation.. They could have show her concerned from the hospital after sai's accident they could have show her little guilty and concerned and hence after sai's come back she doing arti for sai would have fitted well..but no they make her say some unnecessary villainous mean dialogues in hospital for sai and then suddenly she is doing arti for sai didn't look connected and real at all..the director should understand how to develop a character without going back squar..kabhi to good and kabhi to mean take away essence of characters and looks odd..

and about episode yes i loved today's episode so much that made a different post about it..pakhi was as usual on her victim mood expression but rather than that each and every actor played their character very well today even though pulkit was annoying for some unnecassary dialogues but i liked his acting too today..

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Posted: 4 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: Nja91

Yes i know what you mean. But thats why i was hoping we would continue to see the vulnerable Sai in this track for a change. Where she does not bother to put up her strong facade like she normally does. Especially coz thete was no pp/Trimurti around. Only her Virat Sir. She wasnt hiding her vulnerability in the past few episodes.... So i wish her words , body language, expressions everything had been in sync about reflecting her dilemma.

I guess to me, Sai was purposefully trying to shield her vulnerability from Virat, because she knew that if she showed it, she would give into her emotions and probably just accept his apology right there and then. She already was unable to see Virat in this state, so if she had let herself give into those feelings, that would have been it. The pain and hurt are still there for her, and she wanted Virat to know it... and perhaps even more than that, she wanted herself to remember it, because at this point, her love for Virat is overpowering all else.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: ltelidevara

Unfortunately Sai could understand everything he said or left unsaid except the real husband and wife part. Her mind just won’t absorb that particular part.

I think the wedding vows which he took were too much for her to handle and anything she hears from his mouth makes her relate to those vows. Here I think she heard what exactly he said and meant but doesn't want to think or believe that it can be true. It's like she wants it to be true but then she remembers his vows and is left confused again 🤦.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rdigest

Love your POV 💗💗

Wish Aai had also called him out how is it ok for him to talk to p alone in the room when its not for Sai. I know Virat is repenting and I am almost melted 🥺 but still wanted Aai to say this.

Aai was good, she showed Pakhi her place.. Gandhgi in Virat’s life. I know she did not say Virat it was wrong to talk to Pakhi alone in the room in so many words.. but she pretty much asked him to stay away from her.
Virat knows it’s wrong and in fact he had mentioned it to Paapi as well, saying it was wrong for her to be in his room in absence of Sai and Samrat.
Still, he should be more forceful in shutting her off.

Vanku baba please give didi some self awareness instead of new costumes next time🤣


I agree with you Sai is already melted for Virat and his repentance but is unable to forget how he questioned her about AJ. Poor baby she somewhere know Virat loves her but is in denial 🥺 , the way she kept thinking about Virat when pulkit was talking had me believe she loves him too but can't forget what he told her during the wedding and is now confused.

Agree... she is confused and in denial

Pulkit completely agree with you , he was a little annoying today, completely contradicting himself. He says Sai will be the freedom , space and peace in his house and he is clearly taking away her freedom before she even went to his home. I did not like that he was not letting Sai speak and Sai was not liking the way pulkit was speaking to Virat.

Agreed! Pulkit speaking about Sai’s freedom and dreams.. from a man who couldn’t even standup for his wife’s dreams and freedom, did not make sense. Sai is an adult, perfectly capable of taking her own decisions.


His dialogue in CN being a place of mental torture and Sai will not be able to get any peace over there and she needs to be treated like a princess - Dialogue was perfect, the character delivering the dialogue was not!


It was overwhelming to see Virat get all emotional the moment pulkit gave sais hands to Virat. He just couldn't believe that it's finally real but not yet real🥺.

🖤🖤

These 2 are really Jalebi couple and talk in circles. They need to open a sweet shop together. Virat talks in circles , then Sai talks straight and vice versa and it goes on and on 😂🤦🤣🤣🤣

Jalebi couple, they keep running in circles and we are lost in this bhool bhulaiyaa🤣


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Posted: 4 years ago
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I quite liked today's episode.

Ashwini's dhulai was good - unlikely to have an impact on Pakhi but I hope Virat has understood his mother's advice. Or else another round of dhulai from Sai is due.

I loved Sai's dialogues regarding the kaand. She has understood that Virat was jealous/possessive and it was a momentary loss of trust. But it hurts her as a wife that he suspected her - even if for a moment. Also showed the embarrassment and insult she felt at Virat's behaviour towards her friend. And even asked him how Virat would feel if she had behaved as obnoxiously in front of his female colleagues.👏 I'm glad her pain is being highlighted and not trivialised like before.

I didn't mind Pulkit that much. I think he was just trying to be strict with Virat - so that he doesn't take Sai for granted again. He also showed Virat the mirror - about the harassment Sai faces at CN. He heard Sai telling Virat that she did not want to to return to CN under any circumstances. He was also trying to pep up Sai to find her feet - to think about herself first. How many times have we adviced the same thing to people we care? I feel this balance is needed in Sai's life.

Sai has already melted - Virat's regret was genuine and so was his sincerity - and Sai could read him. She was literally finding an excuse to get back to CN although she was trying hard to fight the urge.

I would not analyse the certainty in Sai's words too much. She was just being an angry wife. She has forgiven him - but the pain is still fresh and she is still mad at him.

As for Virat, I really wish Ashwini or Sunny talks to Virat about his anger problems. He needs help and support. Issues will crop up now and then - he needs to learn to express himself in a healthy way. He either bottles it up or let's it go explosively. That is why he keeps repeating his mistakes. I feel his decision to suppress his emotions for Sai is not realistic. Taking responsibility for one's actions doesn't mean self-denial. He knows only two ways to express his emotions - either suppresses his needs like he has been doing in CN all his life or blasting off at Sai. He doesn't understand the in-between. Now he is so guilt ridden by what he did that he has decided to go back to only other way he knows of handling his emotions - his old way of suppressing them. It may lead to more confusions in the future.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: nethraa_99

I quite liked today's episode.

Ashwini's dhulai was good - unlikely to have an impact on Pakhi but I hope Virat has understood his mother's advice. Or else another round of dhulai from Sai is due.

I loved Sai's dialogues regarding the kaand. She has understood that Virat was jealous/possessive and it was a momentary loss of trust. But it hurts her as a wife that he suspected her - even if for a moment. Also showed the embarrassment and insult she felt at Virat's behaviour towards her friend. And even asked him how Virat would feel if she had behaved as obnoxiously in front of his female colleagues.👏 I'm glad her pain is being highlighted and not trivialised like before.

I didn't mind Pulkit that much. I think he was just trying to be strict with Virat - so that he doesn't take Sai for granted again. He also showed Virat the mirror - about the harassment Sai faces at CN. He heard Sai telling Virat that she did not want to to return to CN under any circumstances. He was also trying to pep up Sai to find her feet - to think about herself first. How many times have we adviced the same thing to people we care? I feel this balance is needed in Sai's life.

Sai has already melted - Virat's regret was genuine and so was his sincerity - and Sai could read him. She was literally finding an excuse to get back to CN although she was trying hard to fight the urge.

I would not analyse the certainty in Sai's words too much. She was just being an angry wife. She has forgiven him - but the pain is still fresh and she is still mad at him.

As for Virat, I really wish Ashwini or Sunny talks to Virat about his anger problems. He needs help and support. Issues will crop up now and then - he needs to learn to express himself in a healthy way. He either bottles it up or let's it go explosively. That is why he keeps repeating his mistakes. I feel his decision to suppress his emotions for Sai is not realistic. Taking responsibility for one's actions doesn't mean self-denial. He knows only two ways to express his emotions - either suppresses his needs like he has been doing in CN all his life or blasting off at Sai. He doesn't understand the in-between. Now he is so guilt ridden by what he did that he has decided to go back to only other way he knows of handling his emotions - his old way of suppressing them. It may lead to more confusions in the future.


@first bold: As much as I want to believe this is what he was doing, it just did not come across to me this way. Maybe it is the actor, who generally does not resonate with me. I agree that he was trying to pep up Sai and help her get back on her feet. What bothered me was not what he was saying to Sai, but rather the way in which he was questioning Virat and then speaking in the place of Sai. In my opinion, he has no right to ask Virat what he is doing in the hospital or why he filled out the paperwork. Isn't the answer to these questions obvious? Yes, Sai and Virat have had a massive fight, and Virat's actions were unacceptable. But, he is her husband at the end of the day. Pulkit himself has seen how much Virat has been suffering since the accident happened. I think his attitude towards Virat is going overboard now. And his entire monologue about Sai's emotions and needs and what she needs to focus on... how well does he even know her? Maybe this is what bothered me too... he was giving a speech about Sai in a way that made it seem like he understands exactly how she feels, but we have not seen their relationship develop to the extent for this to seem believable. Instead of advising her that she should come home with him for the peace of her mind, he was forcing her. He wasn't even hearing her out.... Sai is an adult after all, and while Pulkit can support her decisions, he cannot coerce her into anything. In contrast, while Virat tried to convince Sai, he fully made it known that he would accept her autonomy and whatever she decided....


@second bold: I completely agree with this. I understand why he decided not to confess, because he feels as though he has betrayed Sai's trust and failed in his role as her husband. So, before confessing, he needs to redeem himself and SHOW her how much he cares for her in order for her to be able to believe it. On top of that, in that moment when he decided to keep it inside of him, his first and foremost concern was that Sai comes home with him, and he did not want to say anything that might risk him losing her. But, little does he know, him confessing (or rather making ending the vaada clearly) is really all she wants. Virat does not think logically, but rather in the heat of his emotions, especially when it comes to Sai...

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Posted: 4 years ago
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As for Virat, I really wish Ashwini or Sunny talks to Virat about his anger problems. He needs help and support. Issues will crop up now and then - he needs to learn to express himself in a healthy way. He either bottles it up or let's it go explosively. That is why he keeps repeating his mistakes.

I wanted Sunny to address this yesterday itself.. let’s see if this comes up in upcoming episodes. Unless he understands his core issues and resolves them, their marriage will be a uphill battle.

Ashwini must speak to Sai and make her understand why Virat does what he does.


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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Amor_fati

Vanku baba please give didi some self awareness instead of new costumes next ti

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🤣🤣 This is hilarious. Maybe that's why they give sai maternity clothes and all the budget goes to making someone look good since they cannot act

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: tptwi

Thanks for the update, Neerja!

Aai was on fire today. She definitely stole the show. I don't have much to add to what you have said, except I absolutely loved how Pakhi kept looking at Virat, but Virat was just giving her the side eye 🤣

I actually thought that Sai's hesitation in today's episode about going home with Pulkit was quite evident. Her eyes looked lifeless, but it was also clear that she was melting at the very thought of Virat. During the flashbacks scene, it seemed to me as if she truly did understand that Virat acted the way he did out of possessiveness and the right he feels he has over her. She looked like she was trying to convince herself to tell Pulkit that she will be going with him.

The next morning, When Virat asked her to come home, her expression immediately changed from one of emptiness to one of pain. Because, she wants nothing more than to go home, but she cannot forget the way in which he acted so easily. She literally had to look away from him, because she could not keep staring at him crying... I think this is because she knew that she was melting.

There were some saying that Virat was self-victimizing and refusing to accept his mistake two episodes ago, but today, he made it even more clear that he knows what he has done is unacceptable. He clearly tells her that he won't force her to forgive him, and he will be waiting whenever she does. All he can do is apologize, because he does not want to argue... he is aware of his huge blunder.

The dialogue where Sai says that if she had acted this way with Virat's female colleagues, he would have been hurt was a really meaningful addition to me. It again shows that Sai is unintentionally accepting this relationship as real, because once again, she has understood the place from which Virat's actions came.

Today, Pulkit REALLY got on my nerves. I understood where he was coming from and found his dialogues to be quite powerful in these past few episodes. But today, he was pushing it. Why would he ask Virat why he came to the hospital? He knows what state Virat has been in, and he is Sai's husband. What is the logic behind this question? And then again, he asked Virat why he fulfilled Sai's responsibilities. Seriously? It was just too irritating to me. But, perhaps what bothered me the most was that he would not let Sai speak. He kept speaking about her emotions, her dreams, and her needs. But, who is he to speak about all of this? He needed to let Sai speak for herself. And, the entire time that Pulkit was talking, even Sai herself looked hesitant. When Pulkit said that Sai needs to have peace and live somewhere she isn't mentally tortured, Sai looked so incredibly uneasy. Because, no matter how much she has had to endure in CN, she knows that there is no happiness for her without Virat. It was a breath of relief when Virat told Pulkit that he wants to hear all of this from Sai. And, this difference really stood out to me today. While Virat was trying everything in his power to bring Sai home, he left the ultimate decision up to her. But, Pulkit was forcing himself and his thoughts onto Sai. I would have understood if he was trying to convince her like Virat, but instead he came across as making the decision for her. What gives him this right? And it seemed kind of hypocritical after he said that she needs to have freedom, etc. etc.

Again, after Virat asks Sai for one last time... she takes forever to answer. Just like she takes forever to choose Pulkit's hand. These two moments especially really showed me her hesitancy. It is like she knows she is going to end up back with Virat, but she is trying to hard to hold her ground.

I thought it was pretty clear that getting her things was just an excuse for her to go back to CN. She knows that Virat can easily deliver her things, and yet she still is determined to go herself. Her dialogue about Virat not deciding what is important to her and what is not reminded me of the post-college fest fight when she tells Virat that he can't decide where she will live or what she will do. In both of these instances, through her own jalebis, she was trying to say that she wants to stay with him without being able to say it directly. She does not even let Pulkit drop her off to CN, because she is desperate to be with her ACP. When she says that there are people at CN waiting for her, whom she still has relations with... to me, Virat was obviously included in this and perhaps this entire statement was directed at him.

The way Virat stared at Sai's hands while holding them was so beautiful. He couldn't believe that she had finally made it through and that she was alive... that she was with him. He wanted to soak her up. But, at the same time, you could see the pain in his eyes seeing the bandages and how much he had hurt her. Sai could literally not look at him crying, so she looked down instead. She knows that if she looks at him for too long, she won't be able to control herself anymore.


In terms of the precap, I completely agree with you. KaKu literally showed 0 remorse and was questioning Sai's character while she was fighting for her life. And, now she is doing her Arthi?? It just seemed really really fake to me, but I will wait before commenting more until the episode airs.

Nice analysis.

.yes pulkit is really getting on nerves, two days ago he said that no one has rights to take your decision sai, and now he is forcing her to take a decision like having a right on her.

.While kaku is generally showing off for two reasons, one being for the sake of society and other being to be in good books of virat.

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