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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: inlieu

I'm wondering if he mentioned it to her more as a way to gauge if she would consider him her husband forever or if she would just cut ties with him after the 30-day challenge. He was very insecure back then and didn't know what to expect. Now, with Pallavi confirming she won't go anywhere, he doesn't feel that way so she's not his top prio anymore, Keerti is. He shifted focus to the immediate challenge at hand, biwi ke saath to baaqi sab hota rahega - that's how he sees it.


I want to see him think more proactively about the marriage. I don't want things to get super serious, but going with the flow as he currently does is fine up to a certain point.

Yes absolutely. The first time he talked about Vat Savitri was to test the waters..gauge her reaction and assess where sees him in her life..

Shifting of focus, from one target achieved (Pallavi and Amma) to the next( Keerthi) is exactly how his brain functions.. lol and if something major doesn't happen between now and the time Keerthi reconciles with him, he is very likely to be like,". Great! Life's sorted..all pieces back in place" now I can go back to my usual ways- work, whiskey, Farhad and an occasional family get together" once Keerthi reconciles with him...😆

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: inlieu

I'm wondering if he mentioned it to her more as a way to gauge if she would consider him her husband forever or if she would just cut ties with him after the 30-day challenge. He was very insecure back then and didn't know what to expect. Now, with Pallavi confirming she won't go anywhere, he doesn't feel that way so she's not his top prio anymore at the moment, Keerti is. He shifted focus to the immediate challenge at hand, biwi ke saath to baaqi sab hota rahega - that's how he sees it.


I want to see him think more proactively about the marriage. I don't want things to get super serious, but going with the flow as he currently does is fine only up to a certain point.

It's two things in my head- one, I definitely think he was less about the pooja itself and more about gauging her acceptance of the marriage when he brought it up. Two, looking back at what Jaya told him today, it was Sharda and Jaya who decided that this is something Pallavi will do and it'll be a big deal. He has no reason to believe Pallavi is doing this from the heart, and might be why he's checking in on her feelings.

(Pehle khud ki feelings to sort kar, ghochu. Phir usse poochna. Still hoping it's Pallavi's dream)

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Yes absolutely. The first time he talked about Vat Savitri was to test the waters..gauge her reaction and assess where sees him in her life..

Shifting of focus, from one target achieved (Pallavi and Amma) to the next( Keerthi) is exactly how his brain functions.. lol and if something major doesn't happen between now and the time Keerthi reconciles with him, he is very likely to be like,". Great! Life's sorted..all pieces back in place" now I can go back to my usual ways- work, whiskey, Farhad and an occasional family get together" once Keerthi reconciles with him...😆

LOLL, this would be hilarious 🤣🤣

Imagine him calendaring Sunday brunches with the three women, and doing his own thing rest of the week.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: inlieu

I don't think they are bad or immoral but I am wondering if Pallavi has taken Nikhil off her list because she was disappointed in him for getting involved in smuggling.

That's what Im saying they are not. I was responding the person you quoted and adding to your reply .I don't think Pallavi will be disappointed in Nikhil for that reason..she believes in what she told Amma " insaan ke tareeke nahi iraade dekho" and Nikhil's intention was to help his family. If anything she would empathise with him, because eventhough drugs is serious shit, she once had resorted to unfair means of forging shop accounts for somewhat same reason- family..

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

That's what Im saying they are not. I was responding the person you quoted and adding to your reply .I don't think Pallavi will be disappointed in Nikhil for that reason..she believes in what she told Amma " insaan ke tareeke nahi iraade dekho" and Nikhil's intention was to help his family. If anything she would empathise with him, because eventhough drugs is serious shit, she once had resorted to unfair means of forging shop accounts for somewhat same reason- family..

Nikhil wasn't smuggling drugs though, diamonds, so it's a bit more white collar than drugs. I don't think she's pissed at him either...right after, when she was down with chicken pox and Nikhil was buying groceries and doing jaasusi, they had this one phone conversation, and they were sounding completely normal.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: aye-masakalii

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Alsooo, lol, right at the beginning, so I missed writing this out anywhere. But the timing at the beginning of the episode? With Sunny all like, ek mauka mile to aisa haal karunga Pallavi ka, etc etc. And the bell rings, and lo and behold, it's Pallavi, in that mode with that smile. I cracked up so hard, yeh le, mauka walked up right to you, committed to instigating you further.

I think if Raghav bhai wasn't there standing right beside her, he would've continued with his badtameezi and attitude. Like " kya hua? Anaa pada na mere paas jhak marke? Apne pati ki baat suna karo" now that they have openly declared war, I can totally see Sunny trying to intimidate and corner her when she is alone.. he will definitely try to instigate Raghav against her...

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: aye-masakalii

Nikhil wasn't smuggling drugs though, diamonds, so it's a bit more white collar than drugs. I don't think she's pissed at him either...right after, when she was down with chicken pox and Nikhil was buying groceries and doing jaasusi, they had this one phone conversation, and they were sounding completely normal.

Ya sorry that's Ved affect..😆 I meant drugs ..Nikhil is a sweetheart and I miss him

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Goldenhearts

Might I go on my own little rant on this pls :)

You wrote exactly my thoughts! Unless Raghav has a plan already, he has really not been acting as smart as he goes around claiming to be. I have been really disappointed with Raghav in the last 2 episodes, especially with the way he treated Pallavi. I mean she is literally the woman who did what he thought was impossible: reunited him with his amma!! 😤 Isn’t this the same reason he quoted when he went to ask for her help?(before drying her hair and getting lost in it😆) so shouldn’t he be listening to all the concerns Pallavi has raised about Sunny and may be actually considering that she might be right?

Personally, I think all the concerns Pallu has raised so far are completely just. How can Raghav let his only sister get married to someone he knows absolutely nothing about! Like sure that would get him his sister back but at what cost. And it’s not like she’s absolutely against the marriage, her argument is that they should get to know Sunny more before pushing Keerti into a life of misery (which I think is completely rational)


I have also seen so many people saying Pallu should not judge Sunny so hard especially when her husband has done worst things to her. But here’s the thing, Pallu only decided to give Raghav a chance after she had seen his vulnerable side and all his attempts to mend what he had broken... she had already seen that Raghav respects women and people not as rich as him through previous interactions with him. Although they had all the challenge thing going on and him being rude and almost killing her, he never really misbehaved with her. Not to mention all the times he appreciated her courage against a man like him.


Whereas with Sunny, it’s a different story altogether. He had been nothing but rude and disrespectful to Pallavi since day one. While Raghav had also been rude, he never ever said that Pallavi or any woman was inferior to him. Sunny on the other hand, literally said that women are inferior and need to be shown their place
. Also, doesn’t Sunny know who Pallavi is? Isn’t it Sunny’s responsibility to make sure he sets a good impression on Keerti’s family so that they accept him without any drama? (I get that drama is essential in ITV but just assuming we’re talking about normal people) Why is he enticing everyone against Pallavi? What has she ever done to him other than ask very normal questions as the bride’s family should do?

So yeah, I guess my not so little rant is done 😁 and I really hope Raghav gets his smartness back soon and he better start realising Pallavi’s worth before it’s too late🤷🏻‍♀️
(if you’re still reading this, thanks for bearing with me :))

haha, add on mate. Today is ranting day for most of us. @bold, completely agree with you.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

The only reason I can think of for the lack of depth in emotions from his side, is the fact that he has not known or understood Pallavi the way she has.. Pallavi knows about his past, the trauma he had to go through growing up, first losing his nana and lil brother and then being subject to constant hatred and condemnation by what was left of his family.. she connected to his pain because she is a naturally empathetic person..plus the fact that he showed genuine regret and efforts to rectify his mistakes..Raghav on the other hand has no clue of her past and he is not even feeling the urge to dig into her past like she did.. His priorities have been to apologise and set things right for her for the way he wronged her.. now that's out out of the way, he is grateful that she forgave him, accepted him, trusted him when no one did..and he know he needs her, hence the panic when Amma suggested to let her go.. but beyond that he hasn't progressed..he is emotionally stunted. He needs a heavy jolt to realize her value and he definitely needs to know her past.. The next track on Mandhar is gearing towards that hopefully..

While I don't think people should dwell on or live in the past, it's important to understand it in order to build a better future.

Raghav is generally a good judge of character and thought he had figured Pallavi out, so the first jolt came when he discovered she was a widow and that there was this whole other side to her that he was unaware of. He only knows bits and pieces about Mandaar and her upbringing as an orphan. He had heard about her being an orphan during the abortion fiasco but never bothered to investigate - hawa mein filter kar diya and all that. He knows that there's a pending discussion about her past, and will get to it once this Keerti-Sunny fiasco is over. The problem is, I feel bits of her past will be exposed to him in a way that catches him off guard, before he's had time to hear her or Ayi's version of it or even the full story, and this will leave him ill-equipped not just to understand and support her, but also defend himself in the mess that's going to ensue with accusations of murder.

I know there are differing opinions on Raghav's stance regarding this marriage, but the lack of depth is in part because of him not thinking of the broader implications of this relationship. It is also because they still have a long way to go on properly communicating with each other as a couple, not just about current events but also about a shared vision as a couple on how they want to build their future. That has just not happened but is essential for their marriage. They have gone from solving one problem to the next, always on the move, not having a moment to pause. These 30-day challenges don't help either because it makes them focus on tactical short-term moves, not long-term strategic ones.

Raghav has never been in family settings over the past decade, not just his own but in general. Hence Jaya's surprise and comment about seeing him at Mansi's wedding festivities. He doesn't have females working in his core team, he is surrounded by bachelors whose emotions he isn't always sensitive to either. He loves and cares for Farhad, confides in him more than he does in anyone else, but doesn't always treat him very well. It's only because Farhad is so mature and understanding that their dynamic works. Raghav has yet to understand how to deal with these dynamics. If you look at it, he is now in a position where he has to learn that relationships need work on a continuous basis, blood relation or otherwise. He is now in the role of a son, brother, and husband, dealing with women who are different from one another yet similar in many ways. Their wants and needs are different, as are their expectations from him. A one-size-fits-all approach won't work here and he cannot timebox his interactions or focus with each of them. He needs to able to do things in parallel. That should help him grow and I know he will.

I think the next phase indeed will focus on Pallavi and us getting a better understanding of what makes her the way she is today. Along the way, Raghav will start to see her vulnerabilities and wounds up close. I mean, after everything he did to her, barring the maar dalo mujhe Raghav moment, she has been standing strong and dealing with one blow after the other. He saw her get up and fight every single time. Even when he tried to fight with the Deshmukhs for her rights, she stopped him and fought for his dignity instead. When she went all quiet on him after the wedding, he couldn't stand it, he couldn't handle that atmosphere either. I am guessing she was quiet on the way back from Sunny's which is why he noticed and commented on her change in mood.

People like Pallavi are seen as strong and resilient, who know how to help themselves, and because such people rarely ask for help, others think they are managing things just fine no matter what storm must be raging inside them. I am one of those people too, so I can identify with this not-so-good trait. Raghav is equally good at reading silences as he is at interpreting people's words. He needs to get into the habit of doing so with Pallavi as well.

Edited by inlieu - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

I think if Raghav bhai wasn't there standing right beside her, he would've continued with his badtameezi and attitude. Like " kya hua? Anaa pada na mere paas jhak marke? Apne pati ki baat suna karo" now that they have openly declared war, I can totally see Sunny trying to intimidate and corner her when she is alone.. he will definitely try to instigate Raghav against her...

Haan, Raghav Bhai ke saamne thoda sa good boy banna padega.

@bold- Yeah, I wanna see this. It would be interesting. I'm curious, how will he do this? How will Raghav respond? If I were him, I'd go for how Pallavi's comments are making him wary of a shaadi where he'd be stuck with such a snide bhabhi. I feel like that might get to Raghav, because of the risk to Kirti's desires.

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