Social Crackdown: Government versus Social Media Giants - Page 2

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Posted: 4 years ago
#11

I accept social media is no more a heaven of discussion and pov. But totally banning them is not a proper solution. In this way government is violating the freedom of speech just to look good infront of others. Due to social media we all are connected to each other but I think government doesn't realise that

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Posted: 4 years ago
#12

Honestly, The whole restriction is for Government PR image than the other reasons they claim. I admit spreading positivity in midst of Pandemic is Vital but if your Government official page is only filled with all the PR stuff then where do we get the real case scenario if not social media . Some of them maybe not true but most of them belong to normal people who are just fed up with lack of resources and care .


In Government official pages , There is no mention of the number of deaths or how many people were affected but it all about how many people got vaccinated and which district got less covid cases than previous week.


The information should consist both the good and bad , and when you see Government trying to highlight every single thing that boosts their image and fails to talk about the real issues or the steps they have undertaken to sort it out . It makes you wonder do they even know about this issues or just turning a blind eye to them .

624284 thumbnail
Posted: 4 years ago
#13

Government may levy a fine. Or it may stop the ability of these companies to do business in India. When Turkey last year asked social media companies to appoint a similar sort of compliance officer that India is also seeking, in case of non-compliance the Turkish government banned social media companies from serving advertisements in Turkey.

In the long term, however, there could be several other implications Indian internet users. In the long term, the rules may make services like Twitter and WhatsApp less private, giving users less anonymity and less safety from surveillance.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#14

Just saw Law & IT minister Ravi Shankar Prasad's interview on Aaj Tak by Shweta. He made very clear, criticism is allowed. WA normal use is allowed. Only in case of anti national, terrorist, unlawful activities being initiated, spread through SM will not be allowed. SM will have to give details of originator of the message. Which can not be refused by WA citing end to end encryption. If WA is ready to share data of users as per their new policy then detecting originator of inflammatory can not be difficult. Govt just wants a basic but very strong system for SM, who are earning money in India but refuse to comply with law of India. Appointing grievance officer is not that difficult them.

A law for SM, OTT, digital news, firms was brought on 25th Feb 2021, which was to be implemented within 3 months.

https://english.jagran.com/technology/social-media-guidelines-twitter-facebook-instagram-telegram-grievance-officer-nodal-officer-content-removal-10023827


Though IF is very small compared to other SM platforms, but we do have an active system since long time. Hence I can understand Govt's stand.

vijay thumbnail
Posted: 4 years ago
#15


This proves my point.


This shows the power of WhatsApp and how much fakery goes on social media. If learned people like you can fall for such hoax and fake messages on WhatsApp just imagine what happens with less qualified people.


Just imagine if someone circulates a fake video or message and that ignites communal tension, so there should be a way to find the originator of the message. Rest law will take its own course.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#16

Originally posted by: Biggboss15

So our government decided to monitor our WhatsApp chats so that they ensure no one is writing anything. And it's said government will check all the chats😲. Wow what a nice rule. It's an open violation of freedom to speech and our privacy👎🏼. Why would we like to get our chats monitored😡?? I accept there are some people who insult the government like anything but for those some people government is punishing everyone by taking away their privacy😕👎🏼?? No words for this🤢. I feel everyone should protest against it


Where did you read this? I do not think that’s true at all.


Regarding WhatsApp Issue:

I don’t think that’s the case here. As explained in my first post on this topic Govt just want to know who is originator of a particular message (which is already public). This will help police to catch the guy who started an hoax / fake video faster.


IMHO all this talk about encryption is hiding behind technicalities and confuse the people. The message is encrypted but not the sender and recipient number.


If it would have been really that way tell me how does WhatsApp know a particular message is “forwarded” and “forwarded many times” so of course they can share who started the said post.


And I am sure both WhatsApp and GOI will fight this out in courts. I have full confidence in our judiciary.


https://twitter.com/rsprasad/status/1397796228604170242?s=21

Edited by vijay - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#17

Very interesting discussions. 👏

It seems there are valuable points from both sides, i.e, from the point of the Indian Government's rules and from the Social Media's perspective.

The aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress, for the benefit of the end users, i.e, the people, means we!

We cannot change our past where we were silent viewers before these social media Apps' appearance. We can't change the fact that people act in a certain way after getting so much information through all these sources, worked as resources to elevate their daily needs. Not only that, but we can not change the inevitable, that is 'conflict of interests'! For one, it should be a commitment to safeguard the interests of the country, and for the other, to sustain in the ever-changing challenges faced in their business ventures. The only thing we can do is play on the one string we have, and that is our attitude towards the issue, express it with wisdom.

Please look at this news friends. Just now released.😊

https://indianexpress.com/article/technology/tech-news-technology/whatsapp-vs-indian-government-over-new-social-media-rules-7-points-to-note-7332708/

Koeli thumbnail
Posted: 4 years ago
#18

Funny, they should have foreseen the issue before it outbroke. Now, just because people are protesting about them, they suddenly planned to take action against it because they are unable to control it. So when they are unable to control it they are using their veto power to close it and monitor it. I feel they should focus more on the pandemic thing rather than this. they will be applauded well if they are able to handle the current situation. Why ban freedom of speech just because they are not able to control what is happening in the country? As Tanu said, these platform has their own set of norms and restrictions. They should have been kept that way.

RockingSunny thumbnail
Posted: 4 years ago
#19

So our government decided to monitor our WhatsApp chats so that they ensure no one is writing anything. And it's said government will check all the chats😲. Wow what a nice rule. It's an open violation of freedom to speech and our privacy👎🏼. Why would we like to get our chats monitored😡?? I accept there are some people who insult the government like anything but for those some people government is punishing everyone by taking away their privacy😕👎🏼?? No words for this🤢. I feel everyone should protest against it

Ps: It's a wrong information. Someone has sent fake message to everyone in the name of government

Edited by Biggboss15 - 4 years ago
RockingSunny thumbnail
Posted: 4 years ago
#20

Originally posted by: vijay


Where did you read this? I do not think that’s true at all.


Regarding WhatsApp Issue:

I don’t think that’s the case here. As explained in my first post on this topic Govt just want to know who is originator of a particular message (which is already public). This will help police to catch the guy who started an hoax / fake video faster.


IMHO all this talk about encryption is hiding behind technicalities and confuse the people. The message is encrypted but not the sender and recipient number.


If it would have been really that way tell me how does WhatsApp know a particular message is “forwarded” and “forwarded many times” so of course they can share who started the said post.


And I am sure both WhatsApp and GOI will fight this out in courts. I have full confidence in our judiciary.


https://twitter.com/rsprasad/status/1397796228604170242?s=21

https://indianexpress.com/article/technology/social/three-red-ticks-on-whatsapp-no-government-is-not-recording-your-messages-calls-7332379/

You are absolutely right it's a fake message

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