Word sexual harassment and Extra Marital Affair - Page 9

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

ANd I still chose to say she does not intend it.. but she is doing it.

SHe can have her reasons for wanting to be around him, but when he has denied and time and again defined the limits of their relationship in the last few days, the boundaries that have to be followed,he certainly does not like her presence, so even when the action is not intended and the person feels uncomfortable one has to stop doing that..

I get a hand shake from a colleague, who has no intention to be explicit and sexual and I feel comfortable.. I tell him.. he has to stop.. Even he never intended it,he has to stop..if he continues to do it, without intending it, he is harassing me....

Reminded be of something similar. I had a colleague whose handshake used to make me uncomfortable because I knew the intentions. I once said I don't it anymore so it had to stop. What if Virat had not stopped Pakhi from touching him ? How far would she go ? Hand holding, caressing forehead ? Changing his shirt? Why because she cares about him ? Wouldn't that sound weird ? 😕

Originally posted by: KBBofRCIBC

For me EMA doesn’t constitute just physical relationship it can be emotional one as well.

Here Ashwini and Ninand don’t share a emotional relationship at all. And he shares that with his sister-in-law. We can all say he respects kaku or she is the matriarch of the house.

But bottom line is ninand doesn’t respect Ashwini at all. That’s what Ashwini is angry about. She is just relegated to a cook and giving birth to Virat. Ninad doesn’t lean on her for emotional support.

In one of the episode we could see they sleep in separate beds.

Since it’s an older generation and also a joint family constitution we can say in-laws harass Ashwini.

And we are not able to call it blatantly EMA.

@ bold I agree with this, that's the reason why I feel Didi is seeing for EMA might not be physical but definitely emotional...

@bold italic.... While coming to ninad he even doesn't share that emotional bond with Kaku which is supposed to share with wife... The relationship he have on Kaku is blind trust and respect and their bad deeds bind them together..

This is what I think..

Originally posted by: Nja91

In a future KD track , mohit does a lot for Sai's birthday and Karishma is pissed that he forgot hers n there was no taam jhaam for her bday but so much for Sai. Mohit feels apologetic but also shuts her up saying that unlike Sai who does a lot for the people in the house, karishma doesn't. So when she does nothing for people, she cant expect anything in return. Lol.

That's wrong right, giving respect to bhabhi is not bad but ignoring wife is bad, Karishma might opens her mouth inappropriately but she do lot of work and takes all the taunts onbehalf of mohith and live him... So it's wrong on Mohit part... That's not what for we are scolding ninad..these chavan boys na😵

Originally posted by: archanan14

Sorry to butt in again and keep posting long posts, but this is a topic very close to my heart (like I said, I am literally right creating training material on it with a printed copy of the Act on my lap as I type!). Sexual harassment is definitely a subjective topic AND experience, and the government handbook on prevention of sexual harassment at the workplace also says this. I work in HR and I have known of a case where a male colleague leaned over a female colleague who asked for help with a presentation - and she filed a sexual harassment complaint, which was allowed as per law, because it was her subjective experience that she felt her boundaries were crossed, regardless of his intent.

The reason I am talking about this is because, as a person working in this field, I genuinely think it's important for people (especially women) to understand that the law is not related to just physical contact or sex alone. Maybe the term "sexual harassment" is misleading. However, anything which makes a person uncomfortable or crosses a borderline is considered to be sexual harassment, the way it is defined in the country.

If the maid working in a house is uncomfortable with the way a man dresses around her, and / or is looking at her, she can make a sexual harassment complaint. It doesn't matter what the intent of the man was.

I am actually very very surprised that the actress was justifying to be honest. Everyone who works in a professional environment is expected to go through training on prevention of sexual harassment, which should cover these topics - again, as per law.

On a lighter note, I am trying to become an independent consultant in this area, and the lack of awareness on this gives me a lot of hope for my business in the future 😉

Bravo 👏 We actually think sexual harassment has to be big to be considered as sexual harassment else it's just harassment which is not. Even a simple way of looking someone can be considered sexual harassment if you feel the look was intented that way. So when someone jerks your hand, it clearly means the person doesn't want to be touched. If he doesn't want to be touched then the other person needs to stop or else it's sexual harassment.

Originally posted by: MuguetDScorpion

Reminded be of something similar. I had a colleague whose handshake used to make me uncomfortable because I knew the intentions. I once said I don't it anymore so it had to stop. What if Virat had not stopped Pakhi from touching him ? How far would she go ? Hand holding, caressing forehead ? Changing his shirt? Why because she cares about him ? Wouldn't that sound weird ? 😕

ITV hai they can't show more .but going by her behaviour ..she can cross limits.. and that's what is bothering..

Originally posted by: Saichintalli

I know in ITV we should not go by logic phir bhi.... Generally anyone will prefer either male family member or wife or worst case mother if male adult is operated because there will be lot of things to be taken care like sponge bath, bed pans or helping in dressing etc and same goes with female adult admitted, either husband or female family members takes care.. but why this chavan family is weird they didn't even though about this...and left vahini😲

Exactly, no sense at all? Thank god Ashwini scolded them like one should. Don't think.it was in KD.

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

ITV hai they can't show more .but going by her behaviour ..she can cross limits.. and that's what is bothering..

Yeah that's definitely something that is bothering.

Originally posted by: Saichintalli

This is completely out of the serial thing just for general knowledge as we are talking about most important topic and you are into this field, don't you think some people are taking advantage of these laws... Sometimes people might have done unknowingly for once, so without giving them warning or asking them to stop or Expressing discomfort.... isn't it right to file case right away? I feel some might not realize what they might be doing like small things like commenting on nail polish, if you say no, they also it continues they it's time to take action right???

Absolutely, at the workplace. This is also why in companies we are expected to set up an internal complaints committee who is expected to impartially review the complaints that come to them. There is an extremely well-defined process to be followed for each case - complaint comes in writing with details of the incident, the complaint copy is shared with the person accused who is given 7 days to respond, and then the investigation is taken up, if required. The government handbook issued about this actually recommends that the first step should be resolve the issue informally. Sometimes it is a matter of reprimand or warning, with an apology from the employee. The person who filed the complaint might also be given some awareness of how they can set boundaries without getting to this stage.

All companies are also expected to do training on prevention of sexual harassment. This should include the fact that things like commenting on dressing style or makeup, crossing boundaries of personal space, and other small events can also be treated like sexual harassment, so it is better to avoid such things in the absence of consent and it is better to also set boundaries if you are not comfortable. The training should also emphasise that sexual harassment is subjective, and that what matters is impact, not intent.

Originally posted by: MuguetDScorpion

Bravo 👏 We actually think sexual harassment has to be big to be considered as sexual harassment else it's just harassment which is not. Even a simple way of looking someone can be considered sexual harassment if you feel the look was intented that way. So when someone jerks your hand, it clearly means the person doesn't want to be touched. If he doesn't want to be touched then the other person needs to stop or else it's sexual harassment.

Yes - this is a huge misconception. It is so important to build this awareness among people, especially women. That's why I was so very upset with the posts on social media by the actors. It doesn't have to be big for it to be called "sexual harassment".

Originally posted by: KBBofRCIBC

For me EMA doesn’t constitute just physical relationship it can be emotional one as well.

Here Ashwini and Ninand don’t share a emotional relationship at all. And he shares that with his sister-in-law. We can all say he respects kaku or she is the matriarch of the house.

But bottom line is ninand doesn’t respect Ashwini at all. That’s what Ashwini is angry about. She is just relegated to a cook and giving birth to Virat. Ninad doesn’t lean on her for emotional support.

In one of the episode we could see they sleep in separate beds.

Since it’s an older generation and also a joint family constitution we can say in-laws harass Ashwini.

And we are not able to call it blatantly EMA.

I disagree. Yes, emotional connection is also EMA but the lack of emotional connection with Ashwini, doesn't mean he has that with Bhavani.

If he had the emotional connection with Bhavani with no respect for her as a Bhabhi or by forgetting who she is in relation to him, it would have been an EMA. He also is not emotionally attached or dependant on Bhavani. She is a dictator to whom he nods head or agrees to, not a person whom he leans on when he is upset.

Yes, he doesn't respect Ashwini but that doesn't mean that the respect he gives Bhavani is a respect one gives to a spouse.