II WHEN LIFE GIVES YOU LEMONS II - Page 2

Originally posted by: luvdesitelly

Great Analysis. Most of the problem created by Raghav himself. I agree it must be so embarassing and humiliating for Keerti and Amma to keep hearing horrible things about Raghav. No wonder they avoid him and don't want to associate with him. His angry, egostic nature keep creating problems for him.

He treats keerti like his property. She is adult individual and she has every right to help her friend...she doesn't need to ask Raghav's permission to do photo shoot. Once again he dump it all on Pallavi. Also,

Glad today Amma told Raghav on his face what does she think of Pallavi.

Today what he did with Pallu regarding challenge was so wrong on so many levels. Like little bully kid who didn't go what he want so he picked a wrong path and starts harassing people.

He needs to mature up before its too late. Woh Saari ka dukaan hi usko thik kar sakti hai. Kabhi kabhi lagta hai kuan kisko thik karega...Ghamandi Rao or veda mulgi.🤣🤣

Just imagine, having to hear the whole town talk like that about your son or brother.. Anna andar se achha hai ka ghanta achar dale? If you cannot show it in your conduct or your actions, what good is that acchai? wo gana hai na ''ek din mit jayenge mati ke mol, jag me reh jayenge pyare tere bol'' Is it so problematic to talk nicely to your staff? Farhad and Harish are same age, fine but Rama? he helps everyone but that tough exterior he puts on and fowl mouth ruins everything..not everyone will be understanding like Farhad or Harish or Rama.. not everyone will know or care about your Robinhood avatar.. This is what Amma and Keerthi would want right? For him to show the world the pure khalis sona his heart his.. not some rogue gali ka gunda bullying people..kab samjhega ye?

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Ofcourse he is redeemable. He is the hero of our story.. And character flaws are important otherwise what's the point or fun of a journey if we start with perfect and flawless characters? But my point is that most of Raghav's problems are self created because of lack of maturity so if anyone he only has himself to blame. If one one hand he is in the best of his behaviour infront of amma and Keerthi, and on the other hand beats an old man to pulp in the middle of a market, then that's not gonna work. If that old man was actually eve teasing or misbehaving with Keerthi, the right thing to do was to get him arrested and not be the the vigilante police and jury himself. If he can be the boy his amma can feel proud of, like all mothers want, she will be more than happy to move into his house and be with him for the remaining of her life. But Raghav, is so immature that he is unable to see his own shortcomings..

Honestly I don't think Pallavi needs to learn much from him..business tactics yes sure.. but he is the last one who should give any family related relationship advice to anyone.. but he definitely needs Pallavi to show him the right path that will lead him to his biggest happiness in life-reconciliation with his family

I agree abt Raghav being messy and being the cause of issues. Raghav is immature too

I don't quite agree that Pallavi doesn't need to learn life . She direly needs a think called self esteem n self respect. She needs to learn to stand up against her own family if its abt her character n her self respect. Even if its family. its intolerable to take accusations on one's character. Even the mahaan FLs blast out to their family if its abt their character. But here she let sulo slander her even after she knew sulo was behind the defamation. I don't think of it as good. She is practically a doormat there. If she can listen to her accusations then she should also listen to Raghav's . If she was stern with Sulo from the start. Sulo wouldn't mess with her n now leading all this.
Pallavi will surely make him learn how to do things at a right time. Raghav is helpful but he doesn't know how to n when to help . That's the flaw he has

Originally posted by: christobelle

I agree abt Raghav being messy and being the cause of issues. Raghav is immature too

I don't quite agree that Pallavi doesn't need to learn life . She direly needs a think called self esteem n self respect. She needs to learn to stand up against her own family if its abt her character n her self respect. Even if its family. its intolerable to take accusations on one's character. Even the mahaan FLs blast out to their family if its abt their character. But here she let sulo slander her even after she knew sulo was behind the defamation. I don't think of it as good. She is practically a doormat there. If she can listen to her accusations then she should also listen to Raghav's . If she was stern with Sulo from the start. Sulo wouldn't mess with her n now leading all this.
Pallavi will surely make him learn how to do things at a right time. Raghav is helpful but he doesn't know how to n when to help . That's the flaw he has

Yeah I dont think she is a doormat in that house at all frankly. Doormat would have been her sitting doing jhadoo katka in that house and listening to galis day in and day out and still being there. On the contrary, Pallavi is practically the sole bread earner of her family, their caretaker, takes all business decisions in her family, how to operate and how to expand so on and so forth.. she is not gopi bahu. Secondly, what standing up are we talking about? when sulu spread rumors about her abortion? she stood her ground, not flee, or throw insults at them something Raghav would probably have done, got proof of her not being pregnant.. the other time, when Rahul's mother and Sulo ganged up on her, she gave Sulo her piece of mind very effectively and made Rahul's mother see the error of her ways too. The only time she doesnt reply back is when baba accuses her and I think there the reason is that she herself feels guilty of defying his orders of not going near that troublemaker Raghav.. how can we forget that she openly defied her father in laws wish to stay away from Raghav.. Which doormat will be able to that?

Actually, I wish Raghav had some self respect and stop barging in places where everyone is openly stating that his presence or help is not needed.. including his sister.

Pallavi needs Raghav for love and love alone...she needs him for the passion, undying love of a man that is missing from her life, the happiness that she was looking for in her marriage with Mandhar... also someone who can be the wind underneath her wings so she can pursue her dreams and aspirations..

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Yeah I dont think she is a doormat in that house at all frankly. Doormat would have been her sitting doing jhadoo katka in that house and listening to galis day in and day out and still being there. On the contrary, Pallavi is practically the sole bread earner of her family, their caretaker, takes all business decisions in her family, how to operate and how to expand so on and so forth.. she is not gopi bahu. Secondly, what standing up are we talking about? when sulu spread rumors about her abortion? she stood her ground, not flee, or throw insults at them something Raghav would probably have done, got proof of her not being pregnant.. the other time, when Rahul's mother and Sulo ganged up on her, she gave Sulo her piece of mind very effectively and made Rahul's mother see the error of her ways too. The only time she doesnt reply back is when baba accuses her and I think there the reason is that she herself feels guilty of defying his orders of not going near that troublemaker Raghav.. how can we forget that she openly defied her father in laws wish to stay away from Raghav.. Which doormat will be able to that?

Actually, I wish Raghav had some self respect and stop barging in places where everyone is openly stating that his presence or help is not needed.. including his sister.

Pallavi needs Raghav for love and love alone...she needs him for the passion, undying love of a man that is missing from her life, the happiness that she was looking for in her marriage with Mandhar... also someone who can be the wind underneath her wings so she can pursue her dreams and aspirations..

Pallavi too enters Raghav mansion everytime like that so I don't think anything of it. But i agree he should have left when his sister told him that she didn't need his help.

I also agree that Raghav would give that passionate and romantic love which she misses in her life. Can't wait for the marriage to happen

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Just imagine, having to hear the whole town talk like that about your son or brother.. Anna andar se achha hai ka ghanta achar dale? If you cannot show it in your conduct or your actions, what good is that acchai? wo gana hai na ''ek din mit jayenge mati ke mol, jag me reh jayenge pyare tere bol'' Is it so problematic to talk nicely to your staff? Farhad and Harish are same age, fine but Rama? he helps everyone but that tough exterior he puts on and fowl mouth ruins everything..not everyone will be understanding like Farhad or Harish or Rama.. not everyone will know or care about your Robinhood avatar.. This is what Amma and Keerthi would want right? For him to show the world the pure khalis sona his heart his.. not some rogue gali ka gunda bullying people..kab samjhega ye?

His arrogance and ego are two major problems for Raghav. He thinks because he has money and power he can treat people like shit whenever he wants. Many times he even insulted Farhad and Harish. That is why it worked him up when he tried to show the same attitude to Pallavi and she didn't back down.

Jab tak acchai dikhayega nahi tab tak logo ko kaise pata chalega uske achhe behavior ke baare main? His own mother caught him on the road, fighting like a gunda. It's not easy for family to listen outsiders trash talk about your family members. Personally I can relate to this scenario.

Originally posted by: christobelle

Not to forget that she was even ready to take up the blame of abortion for her family. I didn't like her behavior that time. For a girl, her character n self respect is important. I agree she is a Bread earner. I m talking abt her being doormat in the sense that she takes everything nonsense from Sulo. She still hasn't confronted Sulo for her misgivings. I don't think it is a issue to be neglected. If she was stern enough, Sulo wouldn't go around messing her. I wanted a confrontation of Pallavi with Sulo.

Pallavi too enters Raghav mansion everytime like that so I don't think anything of it. But i agree he should have left when his sister told him that she didn't need his help.

I also agree that Raghav would give that passionate and romantic love which she misses in her life. Can't wait for the marriage to happen

Fair enough.. she needs to be more vocal about her disagreements on issues or when people like Sulochana try to character assassinate her. But that is not something Raghav can or needs to teach her. This is something she has to figure out on her own that when people like Sulochana or those ladies who were barking outside her shop, or when Krishna's mother tries to hurt her by pointing out that she is a widow and hence shouldnt be wearing colors, then she should not let such people run over her but speak her mind because by keeping quiet she is encouraging wrong behaviour and prejudice in our society. Its not just about her but all those women who are suffering like her at the hands of our society's prejudices. But Raghav's role in her life, as destiny would have it, is not to teach her all that.. he will show her what it is to be loved by a man.. something she has not experienced before..

P.S - Pallavi entering Raghav's house is not the same as him barging in to create a scene or ruckus in her house or shop. Most of the times, he calls her over for interior designer meeting or helping with lion or challenge related stuff... The only time she went on her own was I think when she had to work on her saree for that competition and point is she is not forcefully entering his house against his wishes but Raghab does that all the time, sometimes her home, sometimes her shop when people are literally asking him to go..he will just not listen.

Originally posted by: ImHemangi

🤣🤣 any time best solution

And his lemonade has all the ingredients in the world that he made it bitter. Such an attention seeking idiot. 🤣

Originally posted by: K_keechu

And his lemonade has all the ingredients in the world that he made it bitter. Such an attention seeking idiot. 🤣

Idiot na bolo yaar.. thoda screw dheela hai.😆 Pallavi tight kardegi. But yes, he desperately needs someone and by someone I mean Pallavi to show him the error of his ways.. make him realise that temper, ego and impulsiveness are the reasons he has everything in life that money can buy, but not the things that can make him truly happy- his family..

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Fair enough.. she needs to be more vocal about her disagreements on issues or when people like Sulochana try to character assassinate her. But that is not something Raghav can or needs to teach her. This is something she has to figure out on her own that when people like Sulochana or those ladies who were barking outside her shop, or when Krishna's mother tries to hurt her by pointing out that she is a widow and hence shouldnt be wearing colors, then she should not let such people run over her but speak her mind because by keeping quiet she is encouraging wrong behaviour and prejudice in our society. Its not just about her but all those women who are suffering like her at the hands of our society's prejudices. But Raghav's role in her life, as destiny would have it, is not to teach her all that.. he will show her what it is to be loved by a man.. something she has not experienced before..

P.S - Pallavi entering Raghav's house is not the same as him barging in to create a scene or ruckus in her house or shop. Most of the times, he calls her over for interior designer meeting or helping with lion or challenge related stuff... The only time she went on her own was I think when she had to work on her saree for that competition and point is she is not forcefully entering his house against his wishes but Raghab does that all the time, sometimes her home, sometimes her shop when people are literally asking him to go..he will just not listen.

Raghav seems shameless in this sense 😆 I truly hope Pallavi realizes that she shouldn't take their words n give it back

The way u speak of the love n romance, it seems so poetic to me. That his destiny to love her n teach her what love is . I m so dying to see that in the show!!

I'm yet to watch this episode but I feel that you are so apt to the points made here.

The only way to tame this bull is love and love only. He needs that. And I think the way amma and keerthi treating him is wrong. That's not how you tame your spoiled rich brat of a son. May he amma has tried for that before but I think she always blamed him for whatever happened in their family that she forgot that how the lack of affection in his life damaged his personality. I do agree that he is the creator of his problems but I do feel that his Amma plays an important role in that as well. If she accepted him forgiving his mistakes then her son wouldn't have turned into such bully.