Adi surrenders to his emotions some more - Page 18

Originally posted by: AreYaar

I think both things are partly true. His PDA with Malini was overcompensation as well as the truth as he believed it in the moment. Adi is such an expert at hiding from himself that it can be simultaneously true that he was suppressing his feelings for Imlie so much that he was able to deny their existence and feel completely comfortable that what he is expressing to Malini is his truth.

So we may never get a clear answer on how long he has suppressed these feelings for Imlie and when they moved into the conscious realm.....the bike scene was a big trigger point, yes....but it's not like he suddenly developed feelings for Imlie from that point only and there was nothing before......Imlie's loss broke through the solid mental/emotional barriers he had built inside himself to compartmentalize his "truth" as he was comfortable with it.

Adi was able to do so much PDA with Malini precisely because he thought his conscience was clear then.....and the reason it was clear was also because he was so successful in suppressing his true self. The reason he is struggling more now is that the door has been opened to the truth in his heart and mind and now his conscience isn't being able to hide from it anymore.

Yes, subconsciously he was developing a connection with Imlie, as it moved from forced to respect to trust to care and now love but consciously he was completely committed to Malini and hence that was his truth. I would say his moon jaap was an overcompensation for the guilt that he is hiding his marriage, PDA looked all natural to me. 😛But may be its because Aditya is such a good actor 😆

@bold: Word, he is struggling because of his conscience.

Originally posted by: pamk06

Yes, subconsciously he was developing a connection with Imlie, as it moved from forced to respect to trust to care and now love but consciously he was completely committed to Malini and hence that was his truth. I would say his moon jaap was an overcompensation for the guilt that he is hiding his marriage, PDA looked all natural to me. 😛But may be its because Aditya is such a good actor 😆

@bold: Word, he is struggling because of his conscience.

LOL main toh yeh waise hi kabse keh rahi hoon....Adi can easily become an actor...journalism ko maaro goli😆......kya convincing acting ki hai isne Moon ke saamne kitni baar😆.....ab wohi acting bhaari bhi padegi🤣

PDA looked natural cuz he felt natural to himself na....when your conscience feels clear, those emotions feel natural to you, no? 😊....obviously they had 7 years ka comfort level, history, dating as a basis too....so the PDA was an extension of that mixed in with his need to suppress the emotional pull he was feeling towards Imlie.

I felt like like both the Moon Jaap/PDA was a need to remind himself daily who he is committed to, what choice he's made in his life and to justify it to himself too as the right choice😆, not some "forced" one😆......bas once in a while, his real self peeked through like in the arguments over the class divide but those were again quickly suppressed cuz he always came back to Moon is my choice, she knows me best....it HAS to be😆.

Abhi toh woh self-reflection baaki hai Adi mein....ki when did he grow so close to Imlie? Why does he want Imlie when he was supposedly happy with Malini all along? 😆

Originally posted by: PPak

Ummm - that is always something i find hard to align with. I always got the sense that he married Malini - since he did not want to dump her after 7 years. If he was actually in some kind of love with her and now in 'real' love with Imlie....that hurts Adi's characterization much!

Remember - even on the day of the wedding - he says - what should be the best day of his life - did not feel like it. Did that look like a man in love who did not want to lose his love. He did not really care - he was late for the engagement - prioritized work over Mun. I think he had an idea in his head that he loved Mun and obstinately refused to see another side for fear of coming to a conclusion that he would need to dump her and be seen as a cheater. He may have told himself he was doing it for her - but not really.

I think PG was the trigger for some attachment with Imli and the bike scene when it eventually struck him what Imli could possibly mean to him. I never really saw love for Mun...maybe what he thought love was before he actually realized the difference when he could no longer control his emotions

He married Malini because he thought he was in love with her and had made a promise to her. May be it started as a "Saath" and then because they spend so many years with each other, its just became an obligation for him that he had to fulfill.

Whether he loved her, I doubt whether he even understood what love is especially as he is person who has suppressed his emotions for so long, I think over time, he had planned his life, that this is how he wants things to happen and this is the life that he wants to live and he just started walking towards his goal. There were no emotions involved, it was all practicality because he made work his passion and love and his top most priority. He chose Malini because she just filled up almost all the checkboxes of his ideal life partner plus she never objected to his need to priortize his work so what else does a man want. He gave it a name of love, because that is what he thought it was and overtime it just became a truth that he started believing in.

I think more that PD, it was Imlie, herself who called out to something in him even before the forced marriage. In the inital days, he was always getting pulled toward her energy and hence all those photos. The forced marriage brought her in his life and since then she just kept opening this box of emotions within him that he had suppressed for so long and well rest is history.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Dunno, but to me the commitment part is seeming like the harder one right now.....the central argument from his side for a long time has been that Imlie is not his wife, while she has always said he is her husband. This is what they keep talking about when they talk about HAQ everytime....he keeps saying he can't give her any haq....and the implication always has been that it's not just cuz he loves Moon but because he belongs to Moon as her husband too....she is the only wife he accepts. So this is why Imlie also keeps reminding him that she has accepted that he only considers Malini as his wife and will never consider Imlie as his wife or give her all the rights that come with her being his wife.

Whatever he's doing these days has more of a flavor of Adi flowing along with the emotions of love.....this need to be close to Imlie all the time, do things for her, dance with her.....he can do all of this without really giving her a commitment....sure he's going around calling her his wife in PD....but can he defiantly say this to Malini and his family yet? Even his alter-ego reminded him more about the fact that he likes Imlie ka SAATH, not that Imlie is his wife.....so I think that mental block is bigger still....probably even more cuz he's been living with Malini as her husband for a while now too.....how do you just suddenly switch away from that? 😆.....You feel the weight of it....having cohabited with someone as a spouse....which is what he did mainly with Malini, not Imlie.

Marzi v/s Choice is what this is really going to come down to I feel.....Adi CHOSE to make a commitment to Malini....for him, CHOICE has always been attached only to Malini. With Imlie, first it was FORCE, and now it's MARZI....Marzi is WILL....FREE WILL.....he wants to be with Imlie out of FREE WILL. But his choice is now a burden because he didn't make the right choice....so what do you do when you think a choice automatically denotes free will but then you realize you didn't know yourself all this while and are only now realizing what your will actually is......that's where I see Adi right now.

@bold: Word

Reading this, I feel both will be difficult because the same logic also applies to love right. How many times has he said that "I only love Moon and I cannot even think about loving somebody else". Almost in every argument with Imlie or every Moon jaap he has done with Malini. Now if he comes back and thinks that I never loved Moon and it was a "brahm", a lie, that I have lived and have also told Moon for the last 7years, I doubt it would be an easy thing to accept. So, whichever way, he looks, a change of feeling or an absence of feeling, it would be a betrayal of monumental proportions from his POV, more so than this marriage to Imlie. Will Aditya be able to handle that? Guilt mein doob jayega yeh banda. 😆

Hence, though I totally agree that though its come down to "Marzi vs Will", he first needs to understand why his choice is wrong. I think for his own sanity, he needs to realize that with or without Imlie, Malini is not a right partner for him. That there is a non-existent compatibility or understanding between them, that they both believe in completely different set of ideals and his feelings for Imlie has nothing to do with it.

Originally posted by: pamk06

@bold: Word

Reading this, I feel both will be difficult because the same logic also applies to love right. How many times has he said that "I only love Moon and I cannot even think about loving somebody else". Almost in every argument with Imlie or every Moon jaap he has done with Malini. Now if he comes back and thinks that I never loved Moon and it was a "brahm", a lie, that I have lived and have also told Moon for the last 7years, I doubt it would be an easy thing to accept. So, whichever way, he looks, a change of feeling or an absence of feeling, it would be a betrayal of monumental proportions from his POV, more so than this marriage to Imlie. Will Aditya be able to handle that? Guilt mein doob jayega yeh banda. 😆

Hence, though I totally agree that though its come down to "Marzi vs Will", he first needs to understand why his choice is wrong. I think for his own sanity, he needs to realize that with or without Imlie, Malini is not a right partner for him. That there is a non-existent compatibility or understanding between them, that they both believe in completely different set of ideals and his feelings for Imlie has nothing to do with it.

Only reason I'm making a distinction b/w the love and commitment problem is cuz the whole "I love Moon to the moon and back" stuff from Adi started more once he came from PD married to Imlie😆....while his stance on commitment to Malini has been the same since day one.....so to me, he inserted more of the love stuff as part of his need to play up what he feels for Malini😆.

I also feel this way cuz when Adi is not blindly doing his "love" jaap to Moon....which is mostly only in scenes when he's manaaoing her, giving her assurances.....in every other context, he mentions Malini as his choice and his wife before anything else....he doesn't go around saying "Hum sirf Malini se pyar karte hain" as much as he goes around saying, "Malini is my choice, my wife"......that ties in with why most of what he does towards Malini is out of obligation more than love.....that obligation stemming from the sense that he made a commitment to her that he has to keep.

Love is a free emotion, it can flow past boundaries and norms....uski apni marzi hai.....but commitment is a stance....a choice if you will😆.....so that is where the marzi v/s choice is again tying in as I'm seeing it.....he is flowing in marzi right now and doesn't want to face having to make a choice.

Dunno how much of this will pan out like this but that's where I see Adi right now....ofcourse he may just throw us all for a loop with whatever kaand he does next😆

I do agree that none of this will be easy for Adi to fully accept....the love or the commitment....so let's see which way they take it😆

@AY - word on the whole conundrum on choice versus forced bit you wrote about. It also depicts how diametrically opposite those two relationships have been for the man involved as well.

It is a thing of beauty to watch Aditya falling in love, if we keep the mess that he has created separate. He has no worry, no burden of responsibility except for the sense of duty that he voluntarily feels for Imlie’s family and a sense of freedom. His newfound liberty in being able to be what he actually is and bask in its glory is coming from being around Imlie. And as an extension of that he is doing everything, every single thing that Malini wanted for herself, for Imlie and her family. What a revelation, if only he would allow himself to dwell on it a little bit. And all of this stemming from a relationship that he was forced into.

Originally posted by: MuteButton

@AY - word on the whole conundrum on choice versus forced bit you wrote about. It also depicts how diametrically opposite those two relationships have been for the man involved as well.

It is a thing of beauty to watch Aditya falling in love, if we keep the mess that he has created separate. He has no worry, no burden of responsibility except for the sense of duty that he voluntarily feels for Imlie’s family and a sense of freedom. His newfound liberty in being able to be what he actually is and bask in its glory is coming from being around Imlie. And as an extension of that he is doing everything, every single thing that Malini wanted for herself, for Imlie and her family. What a revelation, if only he would allow himself to dwell on it a little bit. And all of this stemming from a relationship that he was forced into.

Word to you on the bits in bold as well, MB.

Yes, if we put aside the amazing mess that Adi is making here😆, it is indeed touching to see a man like him getting to open up and feel that sense of freedom in being himself without the burdens of the usual obligations he's built his life around.....He is soaring in these kind of emotions for the first time....doing things voluntarily, happily that he never felt like doing for Malini even when she coerced him to.

Imlie is the wind beneath his wings right now as he's flying almost heedlessly. Indeed it is a marvel that a forced relationship has helped set him free to be himself and follow his heart like this. Same way a forced relationship uncannily became the wind beneath Imlie's wings as well as it carried her to the city where she is meant to fulfill her dreams and potential with a partner who supports her.....that is what they bring to each other's lives but they are yet to fully realize it.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Only reason I'm making a distinction b/w the love and commitment problem is cuz the whole "I love Moon to the moon and back" stuff from Adi started more once he came from PD married to Imlie😆....while his stance on commitment to Malini has been the same since day one.....so to me, he inserted more of the love stuff as part of his need to play up what he feels for Malini😆.

I also feel this way cuz when Adi is not blindly doing his "love" jaap to Moon....which is mostly only in scenes when he's manaaoing her, giving her assurances.....in every other context, he mentions Malini as his choice and his wife before anything else....he doesn't go around saying "Hum sirf Malini se pyar karte hain" as much as he goes around saying, "Malini is my choice, my wife"......that ties in with why most of what he does towards Malini is out of obligation more than love.....that obligation stemming from the sense that he made a commitment to her that he has to keep.

Love is a free emotion, it can flow past boundaries and norms....uski apni marzi hai.....but commitment is a stance....a choice if you will😆.....so that is where the marzi v/s choice is again tying in as I'm seeing it.....he is flowing in marzi right now and doesn't want to face having to make a choice.

Dunno how much of this will pan out like this but that's where I see Adi right now....ofcourse he may just throw us all for a loop with whatever kaand he does next😆

I do agree that none of this will be easy for Adi to fully accept....the love or the commitment....so let's see which way they take it😆

Me thinks it going to go hand in hand but either ways but I just hope they do it correctly.

Waise Aditya has finally fallen in love, right? That expression when he was looking at Imlie's smiling face while playing dhol cannot be anything else or am I seeing things? Bechari Imlie emotional sickness hi karti reh gayi aur isme bhi isne baazi mar li 😆

Originally posted by: pamk06

Me thinks it going to go hand in hand but either ways but I just hope they do it correctly.

Waise Aditya has finally fallen in love, right? That expression when he was looking at Imlie's smiling face while playing dhol cannot be anything else or am I seeing things? Bechari Imlie emotional sickness hi karti reh gayi aur isme bhi isne baazi mar li 😆

LOL well his alter-ego did say he's more or less in love....and yes@ bold....the way he was looking at Imlie there, I don't think I've ever even seen him look at Moon like that😆.....this is why I said a couple of days back also ki bechaari Imlie emotion sickness ke symptoms hi ginti reh gayi aur Babusahib ne na koi hint samjha na kuch, directly plunged into love realization😆.

Even the way he was slowly backing away from Imlie after the dance was over....that lingering bit as if they were both reluctant to go away from each other😆.....Yeah this is a new Adi and he's head over heels for his Jhalli😆

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Word to you on the bits in bold as well, MB.

Yes, if we put aside the amazing mess that Adi is making here😆, it is indeed touching to see a man like him getting to open up and feel that sense of freedom in being himself without the burdens of the usual obligations he's built his life around.....He is soaring in these kind of emotions for the first time....doing things voluntarily, happily that he never felt like doing for Malini even when she coerced him to.

Imlie is the wind beneath his wings right now as he's flying almost heedlessly. Indeed it is a marvel that a forced relationship has helped set him free to be himself and follow his heart like this. Same way a forced relationship uncannily became the wind beneath Imlie's wings as well as it carried her to the city where she is meant to fulfill her dreams and potential with a partner who supports her.....that is what they bring to each other's lives but they are yet to fully realize it.

@bold - exactly and so glaringly obvious for us audience right? I think even Mithi has seen proof of it on this trip.

Imlie is watching the last couple days unfold with a sense of awe and gratefulness for now, tinged with obviously the why of it all. And the fear that it is all going to come to an end soon because this happiness is not meant for her. Acceptance for her too is going to be something to watch, especially how is Aditya even going to convince her that she is the one he actually wants.

But the world ceases to exist the moment Imlie and Aditya are in proximity. For both of them. The unabashed smiles from yesterday’s dance were so natural, like they have been doing this for years. PD definitely weaves magic. And this time around it has been a movie almost, a very aesthetically pleasing movie. Fight aur baarish reh gayi thi aur woh bhi mil jaayegi jald hi 😆