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Did not post it in the regional discussion thread as thought this should be discussed as a separate topic.

Let me first say that I like Shaurya better than Shankho, which may be attributed entirely to the performances. KV displays Shaurya's emotions with so much subtlety that it is difficult not to like him. That said, even in Bengal, Shankho has more fans than Mohor. At least that is the impression I got from social media.

Some basic similarities are bound to be there as both Shaurya and Shankho come from similar backgrounds and have similar characteristics. Both their mothers left them at a young age. But Shankho's father was physically and emotionally always present for him whereas Shaan was physically present but emotionally absent. Both of them are angry at their mothers but we find more justifications for Shaurya's anger because his father failed him too.

Shaurya's anger and behaviour primarily stems from being unloved by both his parents. He is indebted to his adoptive mother but suffocated by her micromanaging his life.

Shankho's elder uncle and aunt were also manipulative but they were not helicopter parents like Devi. Shankho too feels indebted to them but not to the extent Shaurya feels to Devi.

Now coming to their misogynistic nature. As I see it, that is the basic theme or message of the show. I think the idea was to depict how the patriarchial notions and traditions can break families, destroy a bright career, instills gender stereotypes in the minds of people right from the childhood. Though Shaurya and Shankho are extreme cases (may be for the purpose of dramatic effect), it happens in normal families too. Men believe women are to behave a certain way. If a woman does not fall within their mould of an ideal woman, they question such women's character.

Shaurya and Shankho both have adopted the image of an ideal woman based on their families' perceptions. Shaurya may be on the surface a milder version of Shankho but underneath they are almost the same.

If Shaurya speaks for the women of the family so does Shankho.

It is true Shankho pushed Mohor but later he was repentant too.

I wrote this whole essay just to put across the point that if Shaurya, as per the spoilers and sbs, questions Anokhi's character for meeting Ahir, it won't be totally against his character. I may be wrong but Shaurya might be a believer of the theory that too much independent thinking women are also easy. Perhaps he thinks a man and woman cannot be just good friends. Also we know Shaurya's emotions always get the better of him, especially w.r.t people he is deeply attached. If he could say things like "I don't care if you live or die" to his own mother who he loves, we should not be surprised if he calls Anokhi gold digger and characterless. It not only stems from jealousy, but also a sense of possessiveness he feels for Anokhi. Like she belongs to him, and cannot do things which go against his ideals.

Anokhi's fiercely independent nature is going to be a bone of contention between her and Shaurya. Mohor's entire premise is based on that. So it is bound to happen here too. Shaurya is not perfect and till now we could justify all of his flaws by blaming it on his parents. This one will be difficult to justify as upbringing alone should not shape someone's mindset, people change their perceptions as they meet with different people and learn more about the world, but it takes time. Shaurya will love Anokhi deeply, that process has already started but their relationship will last only when he learns to respect Anokhi not for her caring nature but also for her independent thinking.

You’re so well spoken! And I loved your analysis

Absolutely!

Infact tbh, i expected a lot more derogatory behavior from Shaurya because he is said to be a misogynist but they have seem to limit it to only certain aspects of it.

You are right about the role of upbringing in shaping a person. Upbringing is definitely important but it more like a supporting structure and not the actual structure. Once kids begin to walk and step outside the house they learn things from environment and they shape it themselves and later analyse it as per their upbringing.

Just like Anokhi knows Shaurya on a superficial level, Shaurya also like her superficially. The real crux of the show will be when he will question himself can he continue to love her knowing that she is exactly opposite of what he thought he wanted in his life?

I have no idea about OG version of the show... But I do want this show to stand by the premise of the show. Shaurya is kind of different from what was seen in promos. In promos, he was clearly disgusting! 🤢 and hence, I never cared to watch the show till I saw clips on Instagram explaining he is not as bad as promos. 😆

I did mention it elsewhere, Shaurya being attracted to Anokhi inspite of knowing how much they have argued and without anokhi doing anything that could possibly attract him - astha ma'am jaap, arguing about everything, annoying him, etc. I have to be honest never seen Anokhi being caring towards Shaurya or Shaurya depending on her - we have seen him guilty because of her and jealous but never seen him get any care from her. So far, in my imagination, I see that Shaurya sees Anokhi is strong headed woman who keeps getting in trouble and he turns out to be her saviour - kind of making him a stronger one. And he probably likes that kind of relation where he can protect his lady and lady can continue showering thank yous? Maybe? That's just a thought - no tomatoes please. Hence, when he is attracted to her and he likes it when she keeps thinking about his greatness but when anyone else comes in the picture taking away his thank yous, he is on fire and brings out his typical thoughts about society and woman in general.

Again, Shaurya will turn out to be saviour to Anokhi in exposing the truth that she is not the cheater. He definitely trusts her, he has seen that before for sure, but CVs have made Shaurya do all the work for Anokhi.. Till these two met, Anokhi was probably able to handle all difficult tasks on her own (not sure, or was Babli and Astha the ones to expose her would be husband's truth?)

I went through some OG version description posts today.. There are a few places I do want to see differences...

1. Because Shagun's curse was well described in the forum, I watched few episodes that helped me understand what exactly happened there. Shagun did not appear to be entirely stupid to opt for Cambridge PhD over being married to Shaurya. Hence, I do want to see how Shaurya will deal with Anokhi in similar situation where she HAS to leave and separate from him for sake of her career. I don't want Shagun to come back though to marry Shaurya. That kills the whole purpose of curse and Shagun's confidence nature.

2. I want Astha to be little reluctant of alliance between Anokhi and Shaurya given the kind of struggles she went through. Just because Shaurya is her son and she likes Anokhi should not mean that she would agree that Anokhi will be happy given the kind of family she would be part of - irrespective of how Shaurya immediate families are great. But Shaurya has to understand the torture her mother would have gone through in Saberwal house to be so scared.

3. I do want Anokhi to do something for Shaurya, like help him in someway where he could see her strengths. 🤪apart from her smartness while answering questions in classroom.

Hey,

So as I have said earlier a lot of times that the promos they initially showed were not misleading infact they were pretty much apt in showing the audience as to what they were getting into.

Till now, the way they have built Shaurya, people are able to sympathise with him and at the same time confine in him. Shaurya is promising, you feel secure when he says something but when it comes to his own self his emotions are generally all over the place.

Also, at the same time he is so well layered that even when he put across his orthodox opinions people tend to take his side (say 30%) since he has a lot clarity and conviction.

So I do expect him to insult Anokhi and go below the belt and like literally go all out on her in anger but at the same time I dont expect him to call her the name 'gold digger'.

Why? Okay so How do I explain this?!

So I see him acting as a covered chauvinist. Like he wont exactly say it but will mean it. He would be harsh but might still refrain himself from name calling her.

Why?

Because I dont think Shaurya is even a minute percent aware that his approach is wrong at times. He is like that and he finds nothing wrong with it. Why? Because he doesnt lack in direction and do things with a lot of clarity.

I have not watched a single scene of mohor so I can't say about shankha but with shaurya I do expect to see shades of him as ('safed chaddar odhe ek kaala badal')

At the same time, what is interesting is that Shaurya is good by heart and believes in justice. So because of his approach his methods can be wrong but since his heart is not, he have to come across as a mixture .

Maybe, I am drifting away from the topic and not making sense but I will continue saying this that I expect Shaurya TO DO WRONG BUT IN A MORE RIGHT WAY.

Jealousy is a strong emotion- and Shaurya is an insecure man in terms of relationships so he will act as to what he have been fed all his life but Anokhi is just that thread of courage which will force him to alter his beliefs.

Shaurya is nothing like shanko...i felt like shanko was very rude i saw one of the promo he pushed mohor and throw the flowers. Shaurya knows his limits and boundaries. Specially shaurya's has many layer in his character which is best.

Off topic, does anyone have a link to all the promos? I've only ever seen the one that's on Hotstar.

Great write up!

All of Shaurya's evolution depends on how they justify his actions. Most ITV leads come off as MCPs that are changed by their lady loves. Sometimes the FLs also change themselves for their sasural.

I'm okay with Shaurya's harshness as long as there is a slow change that happens. He can change his imbedded regressive mentality if he prioritizes Anokhi's happiness.

The difference between Shagun and Anokhi is that Shaurya didn't love Shagun to want to change for her. Anokhi will be a different story. When his innate nature keeps butting heads with Anokhi's, he will slowly evolve and change tactics.

We've already seen a much softer Shaurya. I hope that continues. It will be five steps forward, three steps back for ShaKhi :-) I'm ready for that roller coaster ride!

As usual great post.

Great point about how he can’t see a man and woman are just being good friends. And it is Shaurya’s regressive thinking that’s leading to his jealously, whether we want to believe it or not. He wants to be the dominant male in the equation. Shaurya is chivalrous but that doesn’t mean he appreciates a woman’s independent thinking especially if that woman is a prospective romantic partner for him. With Shagun, he would listen and then dismiss her remarks as a lecture. He uses the same words and tone with Anokhi as well. So while he listens and doesn’t generally interrupt (which is great, no doubt) it does look like he looks down on women speaking up too much and will dismiss as “yet another lecture”. Shaurya definitely gets the benefit of the doubt for many things he says due to his upbringing but at times I do wonder if it’s right to excuse everything based on that? Can everything he says or does be justified because he lacked parental love growing up? Eventually when can we say he is crossing the line?

I do think Shaurya is much milder than Sankho and I think that’s attributed to how a few tracks have been treated in SAAKK eg the ragging track. So he definitely scored some points with me based on his behavior in those tracks. Of course it worked well since he was a savior and knight in shining armour. So it went with the chivarlous nature of the character. But he did come across as a decent man underneath all the prejudice.

the last episode where he helps Anokhi with the goons - she surprised him bcuz she doesn’t want to go with him in the car bcuz of his soch - was a glimpse into their future. When she explained the diff between men and women and walking out on street at night and the typical mentality, he listened but has no reply. And then he went back to his possessive nature asking her where she’s going.

So I think Shaurya is less rude IMO than Sankho and comes across as more Professor like. Nothing to do with the romance angle. The same can be said for Anokhi and Mohor too. Anokhi is also milder when compared to Mohor but the essence of the character is still the same.

As a viewer, I’m getting tired of the damsel in distress moments but I think I see where the CVs are going with it. Shaurya seems to expects Anokhi to reciprocate all he’s done for her and appreciate it. He thinks this is what will make a woman fall for him. Being a protector. But that’s not Anokhi. And when that view of Shaurya is finally challenged (sort of started already in the last episode) it’s going to be the real start of the love story. Anokhi was more independent in Kapurtala bcuz it was her hometown and she did not have the same challenges she now has in Chandigarh. I think the independent girl will make a comeback now that’s she settled and it will be interesting to see how their story evolves

Originally posted by: AK_2010

Absolutely!

Infact tbh, i expected a lot more derogatory behavior from Shaurya because he is said to be a misogynist but they have seem to limit it to only certain aspects of it.

You are right about the role of upbringing in shaping a person. Upbringing is definitely important but it more like a supporting structure and not the actual structure. Once kids begin to walk and step outside the house they learn things from environment and they shape it themselves and later analyse it as per their upbringing.

Just like Anokhi knows Shaurya on a superficial level, Shaurya also like her superficially. The real crux of the show will be when he will question himself can he continue to love her knowing that she is exactly opposite of what he thought he wanted in his life?

@bold: I agree. Shaurya's love, if there is any, is still at the superficial level. He will have o question his long held beliefs when he decides to take their relationship to the next level.