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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Antara123

Hiii Sana!! So happy to see new people here. I want this Forum to thrive like before. But *sigh*.

My replies in Bold. XD


I could never really hate Asad either (because he is beautiful in the inside and outside equally) -but I really really want to love him and champion him and want him to get the love of his life and happy ever after with Zoya but at the moment he seems blinded by Damini and her plans (hence the Tanveer parallel for me). Asad's character growth in QH1 thanks to Zoya with her strongly voiced opinions and challenging Asads rigid thinking about following traditions unconditionally - that was beautiful to watch - the mini skirt scene - Wow!


I remember Karan saying in an interview after the teaser I think that a lot of girls love Asad a lot and how he hopes they wont be disappointed - and all the fan feedback I have read on SM no ones talking about his potential betrayal of Zoya, so I was like am I over thinking this or missing something? So thank you! He also mentioned that the show like the original will start conversations? Nationalism v Patriotism or maybe what actually defines being a true Indian? Zoya is shown to have grown up in London, and considers herself a global citizen and clearly has a different take on Ind-Pak relations to both her dad and Asads, based on the dinner conversation, if written and executed well that could be refreshingly brilliant! Zoya - is unique because she is an opinionated and articulate heroine and hope that remains in QH2 too. Asad for all his stubbornness/akduness is a hero that accepts when he is wrong and always takes responsibility for his actions(and that's why I do love him so!) and so I know he will do the right thing in the end - Seriously if they kill Asads character trying to make a thriller I will be so gutted!


I generally don't watch indian tv, watched a couple of gul shows a few years back and so know exactly what you mean about her losing the plot after a point. I think I'm just anxious about managing my expectations for QH2.S2 and beyond ( I think we will get at least 3 seasons) - as you said as spy thriller I don't think the creatives can live up to the expectations, but with a love story i think they can - so I really hope they concentrate on what they're good at. Gul is good at building up the romance part - its the other stuff where it generally unravels badly for her.


At the start of lockdown last year i started watching QH1 and have been watching KSG ever since, so I haven't waited as long as you guys for this and didn't watch the Zoyaan track in real time so I don't think I hated it as much as you guys either. By the way I have only watched KSG episodes of QH1 - I tried but I just couldn't watch further, does Asad ever return Zoyas earring in that?

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Sana2020


I could never really hate Asad either (because he is beautiful in the inside and outside equally) -but I really really want to love him and champion him and want him to get the love of his life and happy ever after with Zoya but at the moment he seems blinded by Damini and her plans (hence the Tanveer parallel for me). Asad's character growth in QH1 thanks to Zoya with her strongly voiced opinions and challenging Asads rigid thinking about following traditions unconditionally - that was beautiful to watch - the mini skirt scene - Wow!


I remember Karan saying in an interview after the teaser I think that a lot of girls love Asad a lot and how he hopes they wont be disappointed - and all the fan feedback I have read on SM no ones talking about his potential betrayal of Zoya, so I was like am I over thinking this or missing something? So thank you! He also mentioned that the show like the original will start conversations? Nationalism v Patriotism or maybe what actually defines being a true Indian? Zoya is shown to have grown up in London, and considers herself a global citizen and clearly has a different take on Ind-Pak relations to both her dad and Asads, based on the dinner conversation, if written and executed well that could be refreshingly brilliant! Zoya - is unique because she is an opinionated and articulate heroine and hope that remains in QH2 too. Asad for all his stubbornness/akduness is a hero that accepts when he is wrong and always takes responsibility for his actions(and that's why I do love him so!) and so I know he will do the right thing in the end - Seriously if they kill Asads character trying to make a thriller I will be so gutted!


I generally don't watch indian tv, watched a couple of gul shows a few years back and so know exactly what you mean about her losing the plot after a point. I think I'm just anxious about managing my expectations for QH2.S2 and beyond ( I think we will get at least 3 seasons) - as you said as spy thriller I don't think the creatives can live up to the expectations, but with a love story i think they can - so I really hope they concentrate on what they're good at. Gul is good at building up the romance part - its the other stuff where it generally unravels badly for her.


At the start of lockdown last year i started watching QH1 and have been watching KSG ever since, so I haven't waited as long as you guys for this and didn't watch the Zoyaan track in real time so I don't think I hated it as much as you guys either. By the way I have only watched KSG episodes of QH1 - I tried but I just couldn't watch further, does Asad ever return Zoyas earring in that?

See, the whole betrayal thing is what we are all discussing. But as such the whole fandom is floored by Asad's romance just like Zoya is. 😂That's why no one's spoken about it. Coz no one thinks of it as a betrayal yet. There are high chances of it not being a betrayal. It seems like it. It doesn't seem like it. The makers have taken enough precaution to ensure we don't think he's a fraud but we also know what he's doing. I think no one ever associates Asad the character with dishonesty or betrayal. That's just not him. Asad isn't for games and shit. So, even if they didn't plan this earlier, looking at the reaction to the show and the romance, pretty sure the writers would find a workaround. I think we can handle Zoya betraying Asad at the moment. But not the other way round. 😂😂

Gul's romance with comic element is damn good (used to be until she started doing all supernatural stuff), but I have had enough heartbreak after that. 😂 The issue I always had with QH 1, were all the unnecessary shit we saw. Which is there here also but it's limited. Every frame has AsYa. The others are all fillers like they are supposed to be. There we used to get 10 minutes of KV and 10 minutes of Siddiquis. Very annoying it was.


Yeah I remember the mini skirt thing very well. There was a lot of controversy here. 😂 Which I didn't know about until last year when I came and read all those past pages. But see. Here Asad isn't shown to be traditional. That's one aspect that's different. So Zoya changing Asad's thinking seems out of question. Coz he's fine the way he is. He isn't judging her on her jeans or the fact that she ran away from the wedding.

It looks like Zoya has dragged herself into a lot of mess along with Asad.


Oh that's cool. You got super lucky that way. Yeah if you binge watch it, ZoYaan doesn't last ,

2-3 days. But I remember how disappointed I was in December 2013 when KSG left. Nothing beats that. Not even when I came to know he left KZK. 😂 That was part relief. Idk I don't think he ever returned it. At least not until the 300 episodes I saw.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: WaqtZaya

I was thinking, Asad ke ghar tak agent tha even before he went on the mission. Though this should be known to only Damini.

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And who killed Haider? Asad? Because attack was to be fake no killing included. 🧐

And if Zoya is this innocent like used by everyone for thei Mulk, mera really dil toot jayega.

I think someone else did. Not Asad. Yeah same here. They'll fix that I think. They know how the audience's feel. They won't play around so much that we'll stop watching. 😂😂😂😂
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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Antara123

Oh they were shot separately? I didn't realise. Good I didn't. It means they did a decent job. 😂😂😂 Oh yeah no. Even I feel she knows how to use. Plus in the beginning she said your head will swim. Could be that she's something more than what she shows. Or not. Both are possible. And yeah that was funny. 😂😂😂🎉🎉

just had a funny thought what if she turns out to be an Indian agent 🤣
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Posted: 4 years ago
in short Belgradepur or something else is required like S1 Mangalpur 😆


Ugh I was trying my best not to use Mangalpur 🤣 Because this forum only named me Mangalpur Activation Virus as I was obsessed with it 🤣 I blame Antara for this I did my best not to mention it 🤣

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Antara123

As per this perspective that justifies how she totally fell for Asad, her being an agent or double crossing Asad makes no sense. Also, when the fire alarm came, they way she was sleeping without being alert. That sort of rules out her being any sort of defence person 😂😂😂😂 But yeah. They could bring some personal vendetta. See, Shireen and Zoya's Dad were related last time. If they bring a personal connection this time, in S2 maybe there are chances.. but idk.


How though? But yea they can always show some connection or the other. But what was surprising was how come Asad's house already had an agent? Only Damini and Asad should have known this. Anyway maybe Asad realises everyone is either using him or he is being double crossed. Let's see Karan said family drama so yea. Ugh though again Rashid stuff. Ugh.


Yeah I understand why you are a tad bit disappointed. I think you were expecting her to betray Asad somehow. Or both of them to feel betrayed by each other whereas right now it's only Asad doing that. 😂😂😂 But remember I told you then itself? I wanted her to be innocent. I think next season will be Zoya's perspective. If you have tried Dil Hi Toh Hai OTT, they have come up with 3-4 seasons now. And in one season, the hero totally owned it. In another, he was totally passive coz that how the story was. So on OTT, they have lots of flexibility to explore. Coz they don't give a shit about TRPs. They don't have to change tracks. One thing I love about OTT.


That was very evident that it would be Zoya dominated the next season. I don't want Zoya to be super innocent. Because that will make everyone else bad. I want something in Zoya's character. Just being used by everyone for their own motives is a super sad thing for the FL to be. 2021 it is. Moreover Karan has put keeda in me ki a character should have layers. What to do. Asad is having layers inside his clothes as well as his personality why can't Zoya too have 🤣


But now that you pointed out, Zoya's just been a puppet throughout. That's a little sad. If I didn't love Asad so much, I'd have totally hated him 😂😂😂. Also I have an analysis for Asad I'll write in a while. Idk if anyone will agree. But I do.



Sure I am ready to read. Exactly my point. If Zoya is super innocent as a lamb it makes Asad the worst. But but but Karan loves to be a Black Grey character he wouldn't mind Asad being one hahaha. Yet still, the story is about two eternal lovers. They have to be at par with each other. If Asad has layers Zoya too should, she must. If Zoya is super innocent Asad too should be. That's how it works. Or else it's manipulation.


Actually, Asad being in love with her or attracted to her or just betraying her for his country - I am totally 50-50 about this. I know you want him as the patriot who's ready to betray as well. 😂😂 But I'll tell you why I am 50-50:

1. I think right in the beginning, Asad was attracted to her - when she was changing and when she fell on him etc. She is a beautiful and an attractive woman. So I think that bit is a little genuine. Yeah he's got a lot of self control so yeha. But I guess he was. -- he is attracted towards her. There's no denial about it. Especially when he says OH SHIT. 🤣

2. The saving and putting up with her was totally for the mission. He must have known she's the author. But him reading the book and coming up with that romantic fluff to piss her off was a plan in wooing her. No comparison, but in Don 2, Don sort of grows on Roma so in the end, when she has to choose and kill him. She isn't able to. Coz she always loved him, and he could break through the hate barrier. And. Don loved her too. Don completely loved her but wasn't a romantic. He'd Betray her but he loved her. ---- VERY GOOD EXAMPLE. THE only way Asad could win Zoya's unconditional trust was to make her fall for him just the way she liked so reading what she wrote gave him the upper edge. He hears her saying about the proposal so he leaves the dead body (hahaha like hahahahha) only to put a proposal for her. But somewhere he is also smitten. He is attracted. That's why he is happy with the Ring will bring the Bride thing and says I have a lot to tell you, which I will this ring part is totally true please remember. So he is smitten. He wants her. He is happy with the idea of marrying her.

3. Point being, Asad had already started to grow on Zoya then. When he said, what if I am already looking at her? It was a bluff. Even Zoya knew it. But somewhere she started to feel something. --- that was the last straw which he pulled for her. Last nail in coffin there was no looking back for her. Especially after the lock thing. 😆

4. And, it didn't make sense to me, when they fell in the bathroom and he pulled her to him when she wanted to get up. I was like - this isn't Asad? Then I realised it's a part of the whole thing. But right after she left, he also shuts his eyes. Well, we don't know if that's his guilt or his annoyance at having to be romantic for a mission, or him trying to control his genuine fondness for her. Because Zoya is lovable. XD Could be anything. --- that's why the saying Please remember the ring part is truth rest I will tell you when time is correct. He is angry at himself for falling over her, but he knows he has. So much soap he puts on her haha, marking her as his 🤗 lion has claimed his hunt with soap foam 🤣


5. And, when the Dad does and he calls Damini, and she says take the code and leave. He remembers that Zoya said she'd wait for him. And he hesitates. For a second. To acknowledge. So I guess this gives a slight indication that he's genuinely interested in her. Not to the extent of leaving the mission, but like Raazi - you can love someone deeply and be able to betray them for a greater cause - for your country. It requires a hell of a lot objectivity. But if someone has it, it's Asad. --- ugh the thing that is bothering me Eternal Love 😑all promoting - they don't unite yet there's eternal love 😑


6. Also, he doesn't say a word to clear himself when they ask him about the death. Coz he can't say the truth and he doesn't wanna lie. Then, later, when she cries in his arms, even then he restrains himself. He hesitates to tell her any random lie when she asks what her Dad told. Asad tries his best to NOT lie until he has no choice - like the nikaah shit. -- but the fact that in his mind there's marriage already that means he is smitten and is okay with the fact of marrying her. 🤣


7. The last episode. When they are leaving, he's told her multiple times, he's got some things to tell her but he'd do it later. And he seemed genuine then. So maybe, just maybe, he doesn't mind marrying her, and he feels the mission and Zoya are like personal and professional life which need not be inter linked. 😂😂😂 Like, he feels she'll give the codes and they can still be together. Again, all this is a BIG maybe. ---- exactly yes. Because he has seen she only cares about lives - her telling him about the animals being killed, her not judging him or others for being from this country or that, rather he knows if he tells her the truth, she will understand that they were saving innocent lives from being killed and we can think of a future together.


But yeah, I am still not willing to believe Asad out and out betrayed Zoya. But let's see what's in store for us.

itna baaaaadaaa comment kitne dino baad haiyeeee


Both of them either will require shades or both of them will be bechare. That's all 🤣

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: jacinta_91


Sorry for adding one more thing asads jealousy when zoyas dad said zoya and haidar are going to marry.his face showed displeasure and for one moment he couldn't shoot.i felt a jealous asad there

very angry he was do much that he couldn't concentrate. Like he had aimed and always shot but this time he was unable to. He was super angry and out of rage he congratulated Zoya.

Hmm isko pyaar ho gaya. Zoya Chahiye usko 🤣

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Antara123

I read everything you wrote. 😂😂 I get it too. But I am just not satisfied with these things. Coz for me, I only watch web shows now. And I have watched a lot of non-romantic thrillers and spy shit and patriotic stuff and all. When it comes to romance, I discount everything coz I enjoy the romance. 😂😂😂😂 But they mix other stuff up bring their bizarre reasoning everywhere. Which is why I was skeptical about this agent spy stuff. But I enjoyed it thoroughly Ankie. Like totally. Not just the series. But the anticipation, the BTS, pictures, teaser, trailer, discussion here. Meeting all of you here, watching it in half a day, then discussing with people here. OH. And watching all KSG and Surbhi interviews. Btw bro, can you post the links of the interviews? So many interviews have come now. KSG, Surbhi, both of them together.


Also, Ankie I LOVED the background, like the non-music one also. It's subtle and nice and so beautiful.

.I was very sceptical about QH2. And I still wish that it could have happened after some time as Karan and some members did get infected with covid :(

Also the baggage of S1.

But keeping everything aside, it was something that was more than the expectations, it was something so enjoyable that it will be enjoyed everytime we watch it. And it is so true to its legacy that it has overpowered QH1.

U know I hated Mitwa and I still do. For me title track and theme music matters a lot & QH2 had ne at their OST. So much that I am tweeting Abhigyan Jha to release it everyday and that man replies every day 🤣 so sweet but yes want it. The song is so addictive. The show is so addictive dil nahi karta ki chorun usko. Ah this is a delight! So happy ☺️



Yes yes why not.

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Posted: 4 years ago

Because Antara asked.

Karan Singh Grover & Surbhi Jyoti IVs for Qh2.0

https://youtu.be/E6bgPYAoLGU

https://youtu.be/VE6rv4tCWzI

https://youtu.be/s1vhCVP3Fb0

https://youtu.be/RsnBeLnhky0



🤣 laugh riots. 🤣

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Posted: 4 years ago

Originally posted by: Antara123

Totally. Maybe then he'll realise he's in love with her. Because that's when Asad realises it too. Then I want ALL the angst when he's trying to push her away and all.

how do you want it to be?

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