Epi 182: This Means War!!! (New promo link - pg 7) - Page 20

Originally posted by: Innocentlove96

Yeah that would be interesting to know since when.

Only two scenarios have high possibility. Either before entering VR mansion or after coming as Vihaan.

I too feel the same. Considering Kabir had shown evidences before he take the jump; He might have known he used her. But then love and all is the past which right now Vansh doesn't consider as he has seen her love for him.

Oh man Vansh is a selfish person for sure.....and he is obsessed with Riddhima....and now madly in love...he wouldn't even let her out of his sight. Kabir has to gear up his games.

I mean when Kabir hold the frame only he couldn't able to digest the fact that Kabir has her picture, now want her is too much. Which is why wanted an open challenge because that will actually make Vansh on toes with Ridhima - you see the possessive husband.

Of course Kabir is the kind of person who always play from behind, hiding in his bushes and playing his cards....he isn't one of those to play upfront like Vansh.

I too feel the same but open challenge has another maza. Whichever it is I'm fine with it. Now a vague thought his obsession should be such that Ridhima shouldn't get hurt. And if anyone hurt Ridhima he will hurt them. In that case, if ever Ishani try to cross her limits we have Kabir to set the limits.

But yes he will try to get close to Riddhu, will try to gain her sympathy becz we know manipulation is his biggest weapon and emotions is Riddhu's biggest weakness.

He can only use her parent truth as bait dear. Nothing more than that. Maybe he might come up with some other thing but Ridhima won't trust. So left with parents truth for now.

What will be the base for manipulation that would be interesting to watch....will it be his own father's death or will he bring light to Ishani's crime or again like earlier put Vansh's life on stake.

Let's see how he will manage to pull it because right now as Vansh said he added emotions to the hatred. Until now it just enmity with Vansh but now emotions included and that made him to obsessed with Ridhima. He needs that selfless love back which Vansh is having. Kinda experienced that love already he wants for sure now.

Originally posted by: Nephy

Agrees...but we better keep our hopes low...😒

And till than enjoy vansh as long as we are getting him back in his element...

Indeed, see back to back we saw Vansh winning so next might be Kabir

Most of the times Kabir wins and while Vansh loses

I don't know why they do it

so in this win-win game I neutral

Originally posted by: pyaar2012

aisa ho sakta hai ki kabir usey majboor kare zindagi ki bdale rista todne pe ... mein vansh ko nhi marunga tum usey chor mere pas wapas aa jao aur riddhima us parent wali baat ki jut ko reason banake rista tod de !!

Hmm... I agree

he can manipulate her with emotions of Vansh's life and then for sure she will leave and for the sake of Vansh, she might go to Kabir.

Also to keep with her he will use her parent's truth against her.

But then I don't want Ridhima to do anything until VR come back home but in his absence don't know what Kabir is going to plan

Originally posted by: Nephy

Yeah I think going by initial episodes he knew that she was a spy still he used it for keeping her close and when she left he married her...he was clearly very happy to marry her it was not looking like plan it was looking like you want something and you get that thing it was pure obsession but with time passing by and riddhima taking bullet and behaving more like wife also involved love with that obsession and than either he thought she left spying or she was not spy at all...and with this he knew she had a past she was in relationship by that ring chain in her neck and he never let her speak about that romantic past not spy past becoz he maybe knew that he could not take it so let it go but than whole ragini thing happened and than he came to know that Riddhima is indeed spy and more importantly he thought she used his feeling against him as all Karwachauth watch was also there and maybe that day itself he came to know about kabir being the mind behind her and not before that but for him it will only be limited to spy and master relation thats it....

But when he came as vihaan he was checking the water and riddhima's intentions with his dialogues and acting as her partner but than makers scrapped it so will not say more and with this we came back to the cliff fall vansh who fallen down with her betrayal so revenge returned but his questions there messed it up maybe due to his overwhelming emotional state and than kabir burst the bomb of him being her first love and thats her reason of her marrying him for kabir making already emotionally disturbed vansh more volatile going totally irrational...and when riddhima left or even after introducing Ahana as his wife I think he toned down much as he according to him taken his revenge of playing with his feelings and looking at riddima stance of fighting for them and when she left telling he didnot deserve it also banged his mind but than his ego came into place and not revenge and when siya officially confirmed that riddhima actually never played with his feelings he may understood whole of the thing...

I have written actually very long essay...but thats how I planned to think😃😃

Look I have written this regarding his today's line of knowing about ridzi and kabir truth if it make sense...😅😅

Yup, make sense. Since the beginning, he might know Kabir is behind all this. But since the evidence has been shown he might have known Kabir is with Ridhima and later at the time of Vihaan he might have understood he used Ridhima.

But then I agree as makers screwup it up they brought this revenge track and then how she fought for him -makes sense

But if ever possible - I know again I'm keeping hopes but want to see Ridhima and Vansh have this conversation when and how they both fell in love or the process you see - a mature conversation good to be better to discuss on this

Having said that, no idea if makers could bring such ideas to the plate or not

Originally posted by: scintillaxx

chang and vaccine wala part..it just cracked me up🤣

#banchangbanchina🤣

hahahaha

Yup, we seriously misunderstood makers. They want Mafia to enter post after Vaccine comes because Mafia ke deals saath free mein Covid be aatha na isliye

Originally posted by: scintillaxx

isn't it too short😂

yess..they screwed in middle in such a way that I don't know is there any possible reason to fill the loop hole....

I actually love Vihaan but due to few channel and audience reasons, they screwed it up soon. But yes really wanted him to continue long

Many things might have been set right due to Vihaan

Maybe once Vansh should enact as Vihaan again. With the beard and all

Originally posted by: scintillaxx

I have a thing to share...in the pregnancy report Ishani was 23 so acc to it she was not even born in 1996...how did she do the accident withot being even born I really wanna know🤣

hahahha

sometimes don't question ITV logics

go with the flow

Originally posted by: Nephy

Yeah its very short like Rrahul's videos...

Actually Abhyudaya was asking when exactly vansh came to know about kabir and riddhima so I tried to put light on whole lot of past episodes and make little bit sense out of it....😆

@b-I know still tried to look into a way that we can watch serial with some explaination...

I agree with your explanation. It made some sense too :)

Originally posted by: abby143

Yes I agree they can use him so much as Vansh's right hand and sensible family member...

See the only member who doesn't have any growth in the character is Angre. Agree, with Ishani something is happening but apart from that nothing is happening.

Still being so clueless

I want to know what is Angre background story with Vansh - where they met and how he promised him that he will say never No for whatever he asks

Originally posted by: Wynn

Thanks for update Abhyudaya ; always nice breakdown...soo games after games after games;yes it feels like Vansh wants Kabir to overhear his conversation with Ishani about Rhidimma's parents being killed. Perhaps he is deliberately setting Kabir up again?

Thank you, I too felt the same thing. Like Vansh let Ishani speak because Kabir hears the conversation and might end the hatred. But I think that has led to completely something else - his obsession with Ridhima. Vansh might not think about this.

Chang appeared in 1st epi...now we are epi.187 and he makes a re-entry? What fool puts 1/2 his life earnings in one pot? Is he going to use the other half as surety and why have this conversation where anyone esp Kabir can hear?...this diamond deal is another set up for Kabir..

I don't think it's a set up for Vansh, but I feel Kabir might do something for this deal to get flopped. The BTS scene in IG is circulating where Vansh has hurt again. Maybe this can be related to it.

I am surprised at pace of track..I thought it would take time for Kabir to go see Anu to get a different version being revealed and putting 2 & 2 together...but it seems overnight we are going from revelation to revelation.

Yup, I thought the same. If not plan something else but I think makers wanted this track of obsession to start and for which Kabir to know the truth is important. So they might have done this. I feel the whole serial is rushing than one single episode.

So for me now I want to see how Kabir tries to reveal the truth to Rhiddima

Yes he may try and get Rhiddima back to him but that will never happen.

However even though he will try & convince Rhiddima that Vansh lied she will never believe Kabir, her belief in that she wronged Vansh by thinking he killed her parents is too strong...she will never believe a word now.

Now, she won't believe anything against Vansh though Kabir says anything. If he puts Ishani at the gun point also it cannot be possible until unless he connected with the locket. But then again, she won't totally believe as she has seen what happened. She would be in dilemma for sure.

As to evidence what evidence? That has been destroyed. Kabir might mention Ishani but even then that will not sway Rhiddima so its going to have to be a really really big game Kabir plays.

Sooooooo perhaps this Uma reentry can be a ploy by Kabir...bringing in a fake Uma to cause trouble between RiAnsh just like Vansh bought in Ahana

Or Uma may be the real deal who suddenly reappears from dead but I doubt it..either Kabir brings in fake Uma, Vansh brings back real Uma or booth Uma decides to appear.

There is one thing that Kabir can use to sway Rhiddima...that is the locket...if he can link the locket to Rhiddima and somehow to VR family through Uma then he is on to a winner

Perhaps this is where the evidence is that Rhiddima will come across with or without Kabir.

Whole Uma thing I think they scrapped up or they might get later considering the TRP. But then again if negative chances are high people might not accept it. If she is fake Uma, then the audience can consider it's a good game but then real Uma as negative - not acceptable for many.

I want Rhiddima to know the truth, she deserves it; I get why Vansh wanted to protect Ishani as a teenager and even now as an adult..Rhiddima if she knew the truth at the start would have I feel understood it was an accident and not demanded Ishani go to jail as an adult..if it was portrayed as a genuine accident I really feel her character is such she would have understood why Vansh protected Ishani as a teenager.

But now silence by omission is putting the fuel onto the pyre to be lit. For me now even if her parents were business rivals themselves or just ordinary people, she needs to know the truth...plus let's face it, it's a thriller show so when leads utter such lines as..."she will never know secret of locket" or "the secret of her parents being killed will never come out" ; "she will never leave" you know the opposite will happen

Plus one more thing KaVa, Rhiddima is not a toy to be tossed amongst the two of you, the day she finds out she is being used by both once more in their personal war she should slap them both .

Indeed Ridhima is not a toy but here Kabir didn't challenge openly about Ridhima. He is obsessed now. The day war begins between them, then Ridhima can step her foot and say stop and decide to choose. But then Why would Kabir listen to her? He might kidnap her or go to any extent to keep her with him.