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Posted: 4 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: jankiraghav


Virat was a big disappointment but I am not sure if we can conclude that his characterisation has gone down... I mean, we had too much of a goody image of him -- self-sacrificing, never in the wrong, insaaf pasand, too good to be true man for Sai. He can't be. He has to be human. He has to have his transgressions -- may be even unjustified. He is a product of a toxic family and it is natural in some ways for him to have a patriarchal mindset like today. I did not see it as a character break but a character revelation because I was finding him too good to be true in that uniform. Honestly, the (any) uniform really makes the ugliest men look smart and upright but only when you get to know them closely, you know what they are. I think, he is at a stage where he is being pushed to make choices he never thought he'd have to make and before making those choices, he has to make those judgements. And, he is failing at some of it. Those decisions that he knows he has to take, he has taken with all conviction -- which is why, when I made that post the day he threw that "meri family to jeeto" challenge and compared it to Sai's "love for challenges" for people like Vitthal and Jagtap, I asked these questions -- does he have the nerve to choose her over his family in the first place, before asking her to put in these efforts to win over his douchebag Baba and vile Kaku? Today, he gave the answer. Right now, it is "NO". He doesn't. And that's perhaps because there is so much self-created mess that is "unresolved" between them (only within their relationship)-- insecurity, the mistrust within the "trust", self-esteem, the self-created 'distance' and more than anything else, the knowledge that they have decided not to get "bound" as normal husband and wife. So, while it was his own offering to her - he himself is not able to handle his overwhelming feeling in this loveless marriage. He suddenly wants her and he does not want any questions to be raised at his choice of his wife -- he is torn. He is in a hurry to have her accepted in the house, to not hear complaints about her "behaviour". But unfortunately, just like his thoughtless offer of the loveless marriage, his U-turn is also abrupt and thoughtless -- not from the point of view of writing but from Virat's behaviour. His "jaldbaazi" ke faisle come back to bite him and that is his flaw- he just wants an immediate solution/end to a confrontation -- when he has the conviction, he will do as he pleases and when he doesn't have it, he will surrender and leave everyone baffled.


I want to confess that when I first watched the episode this morning, I had a fleeting feeling that he was just playing to the gang and he knew they were lying and he would come up with something to outsmart them--- only until he chose Option2 from Ninad's ultimatum. That really took away any kind of justification I could have thought of his annoyance about the whole Alta nonsense -- i could even have conceded that he got upset at the idea that Kaku was manhandled (without knowing who manhandled whom) but not the fact that he was almost not affected at the thought of asking her to leave the house with a simple "Wo akele kaise rahegi"... arrey, toh jaao na. For a guy, who misused his position to check out a guy in her college, this is unpardonable just like the comparison of this obnoxious situation to the sexual abuse she has faced.


His transgression will still not take away from the fact that he does care for Sai but the "unresolved" is coming in the way of establishing that absolute no-entry territory in their marriage, which allows anyone and everyone to enter in between their space and widen the gap at times -- he needs to ask why any third person has so much influence over him in matters related to Sai ever since he's begun to get attracted to her. It stems from the insecurity of not being intimate -- and I don't mean "consummation". I mean the "conjugal" relationship. There is a difference. Conjugal does not mean “sexual relations” it means intimacy that gives one a sense of permanence and serious commitment to one another. But again, it is his doing that he told her she cannot have the "umeed" i.e. "conjugal rights" on him in this marriage. Now, he is the one, who is feeling insecure about it and it has turned him almost bipolar where he wants to reign her in at one moment and is stupefied in the other. He has to go through self-introspection before wanting to have the 'wife' he wants Sai to be. She will slap her cheek again and bring herself out of thoughts of desiring him, no matter how hurtful but he seems to be the one who will find it difficult to let go of the attachment he is feeling.

He needs to "love" her, not just desire her. If he cannot, then he better stop threatening other guys around her, who can give her all that respect and peace that she deserves.

Am I allowed to gush at this reply? Please excuse me but đŸ‘đŸ€—. Sorry 😃.

When I read the main plot of Kusum Dola, I dismissed it as a trp-grossing on & off love story. I assumed that the hindi version was making it into a more logical version. But reading your reply, I wonder if KD was never supposed to be about a 'likeable' ML, but rather about a dark-grey ML and the complications his serious flaws cause in his marriage. I guess the problem is in the perspective - we want a 'likeable ML'. Your analysis of Virat in this reply certainly brings forth very logically, the mental state of a deeply flawed individual caught in the mess of his own making. If that is the intention, I hope they maintain the characterization and character growth that way (for the sake of consistency). I am reminded of one my friends's husband. He was such a such a strange mix - highly educated but MCP to the core (had obnoxious views on rape😡). Believed in good values, and by all accounts, an honest man in his dealings with the outside world. He had manipulative mom and sister, yet cared for his family (especially his sister) to the point of self-sacrifice and self-denial. He was supportive of my friend's job, also got the feeling that there was care towards her as well...would be thoughtful towards her in some cases but controlling in other cases. I hope I'm not jumping to a convoluted conclusion about the show đŸ€Ș


@bold I wished so too....😆

Edited by jane_austen - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: Chahat_A_Doshi

5 yrs tak Sai family ko.pata legi

Main Sai Ko pata loonga

Sai MBBS main bhi MBBS (Munnabhai wala Miya Biwi Baccha Samet)

Life set.


IAS aur IPS Ka basic Foundation course same hota hai. He must have learnt the planning commission tactics from there. And many more five year commissions. 😆

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Posted: 4 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: ..Peppermint..

The thing is, even if Virat flips tomorrow and supports Sai, it will either be because he was transfixed by her beauty or because she applied alta - both of which are not signs of a healthy relationship.

That i agree. Which is why I have an issue even with his jealousy to begin with .. what is the basis? First articulate and then get jealous!


I ff most - but him asking to force Sai when he is responsible for women's protection and going back to square one with his mother after the emotional apology is not going down well with me.


I think I'll pledge not to watch the sbs segments now, i'm still riled up over the yesterday oneđŸ€Ł

That is one pledge you must solemnly make 😆

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Posted: 4 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: ThruMyEyez-Nita

Happy 100th episode?!?! What a disappointment it was!


When I first started watching this show, about the time when Virat and Sai got married, I thought it would be interesting to see how Virat, Sai and Pakhi's character will grow with their own inner turmoils and feelings as well as the reconciliation between traditional, orthodox values and family structures with a girl brought up by a single father who fears nothing. And it did start off that way but then it went downhill and how.


The neverending family drama is stretched out so far that watching it makes my head hurt - there is nothing new that is brought to the table, it is the same old, same old and with every episode it only gets worse. When Bhavani ends, Omi starts, when Omi ends, Ninad starts, when Ninad ends, Shonali starts, when Shonali ends, Karishma starts, when Karishma ends, Pakhi starts (did I miss anyone...). And today when Pakhi ended, Virat started as well. Everything that has happened with Sai to date has been a classic case of domestic abuse - and it only seems to get worse.

The family scenes are too many and too stretched and monotonous almost. So I am glad that they finally gave the ultimatum today. At least that is the progress. Enough of it. Please allow that girl to leave in peace to live in peace. Otherwise they were against the idea of having a Chavan khandaan ki bahu live in the hostel. Now Virat knows they are okay with it and Sai is waiting for it and he doesn't want it! At least it will break this constant volley of abuses.


Virat today was awful to watch, like you said Janki - was it his exasperation to end the discussion that brought out this side in him. Maybe - but it was hard to connect with him, especially after his retort about "where will Sai go?" when his family gave him an ultimatum and his reaction to his mom, and last but not least saying that they should have forced Sai to wear the alta or have Karishma forcefully bring Sai down - not done ACP Virat Chavan, not done! After all of that, his softening moment with Sai, did not do it for me. Will wait to see how tomorrow plays out.

He just doesn't want any confrontation that can be avoided -- what's the big deal about Alta? Just wear it, make them happy. It's avoidable. Like the verbal match she got into before Amey came and he wasn't prepared for it. Of course his zabardasti word and choosing option 2 was unpardonable. I hope the continuation of the scene has some opportunity for this damage control...


The only redeeming grace of today was Sai, be it her little moment of "Am I falling in love with Virat?" or her playfully but also in all seriousness asking "What charges have your family filed against me today?".



The writers need to take a hard look at where their show stands and how it will proceed but if they continue on the current negative trajectory, it will completely lose the charm that is already slowly fading away.


Janki, I'm officially donating a closet full of heels to replenish your bag of chappals that were unleashed today....and as always, thank you for a beautiful post.

Accepting donation with lot of aabhar! đŸ€Ł

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Posted: 4 years ago
#55

Originally posted by: prs_725


This!!! If it's such a small thing Virat, why should she be forced anyways!? Why is she not allowed to ever say No w peace? Why should a woman saying No ever be a problem!? Everyone wants to control the free bird and put her in their own cages for their own ego and personal satisfaction..that is not Sai though. She will fly away and so far that they will have no choice but to want to be also that same free bird.

But isn't his jealousy also stemming from this sense of loss of control... He wants to be the centre of her being for some reason.. so anyone else is getting close and her moment of feeling happy with someone else can bring out the unseen side of him.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: jane_austen

Chappals are not sufficient for Virat. Supari killers neededđŸ€Ł.

Which decent person will ask - why someone (let alone his wife) was not forced to apply alta? As maddening as this new form of Virat is, I don't even see the point of it in the story. If they still show Sai romancing him, then they are taking it into the familiar toxic romances like Kabir Singh etc. where toxic love = true love.


Who is Kabir Singh? I assume some Toxic man. I don't think this is the new form of Virat. It's the unseen human side of him that was hiding under his self sacrificing image. At some point in life everyone has a reason to become selfish and decide that they don't want to sacrifice. Sai is that for him but at the moment the feeling is not a healthy one. It seems to come more from his sense of possession/entitlement than love.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: prs_725

Exactly!! Instead of Ashwini telling sai that she’s ruining her relationship, someone needs to tell Virat too. Instead of telling Virat, when sai samajdhar ho jayegi.. they all need to become samajdhar .. you can’t cloak someone’s behavior on their understanding level .. it’s a matter of perspective too which he needs to use on himself and his household

Yes, make your vaada a Sai wala vaada â˜ș


Ashwini, for all the goodness and love she has for Sai or any children in the house, is a typical 'mera raja beta' mother. Her advice to Sai is not ill-intended however. It comes from her ignorance that it is her Godu son who has asked her to remember that his heart belongs to his bade Bhai ki wife.

Of course, I do feel Ashwini will give him the sounding of his life when he does throw her out as we know the story. I hope she would not disappoint then at least.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#58

Originally posted by: FortunaMajor

Virat has hit the penultimate level of toxic masculinity with the upcoming throwing Sai out post Devyani track probably going to be the ultimate one.

It is so sad to watch all the potential that Virat as a character and Sairat as couple have go to waste.

The makers must really dislike the fandom😆or maybe they don't want Virat disowning Sai post Devyani track to be a sudden flip but a gradual build up towards his fall.


I think that is more like it. They are showing his unseen side. That's how I want to see it until I reach my breaking point đŸ€Ł

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: linakusharberry

Beautiful analysis janki

Today iam highly pissed off with virat yeah insaan ko bipolar disorder hai kya kal toh he was crying and apologizing his mom for doing wrong with her aur aaj dekho phirse he is back to gussa karring session well is he not the one who asked sai don't expect anything from deal wala marriage then why do you expect her to follow all the rules and regulations of his home why will she have to do all this pooja paat rituals for u in this deal wala marriage , aaj I didn't find him different from this chakram sena today ok it's clear today that devi tai track mein she will be thrown out ,when he will realise the truth he will regret it , sai yeah lunatic Asylum seh bhaag javo yah hostel shift karo


Agree. His expectations are growing like a bamboo tree. I heard a bamboo tree can shoot into your face out of the blue 😂😂😂

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Posted: 4 years ago
#60

Originally posted by: scarlett22

Hello Hello...


After a tough day yesterday, 😆, we are back.

My days with this show are numbered, I got this realisation today😛


As someone kindly suggested, I watched only the last 5 minutes. I was not impressed with Virat's smitten look because he was able to snap out of it and continue his harangue.


Clearly, ML and FL can't fall in love so easily in ITV.

But we do normally get a lot of couple scenes which impart a light hearted feel. We used to get them before but suddenly it has decreased.


I don't really know what to say anymore without bringing in other elements

Thank you so much Janki for your postđŸ€—


Awww đŸ€—let's wait for a couple of days Otherwise Saath me swaaha Kar denge 😆

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