Bigg Boss 14: Daily Discussion Thread - 14th Jan, 2021 - Page 81

Originally posted by: Nachiketj

Dekho Eizaz ne USS din untouchable bola that was also offensive and was beeped...hapshi beep nahi hua.

ajke episode mein hapsi wala part puraa cut kar diaa.. eijaz ka toh atleast beep kia, matlab audience ko yeah dikhaya he told something wrong, rubina ka toh woh complete scene hi cut kar dia taki mahan bahu buri na lage

Originally posted by: SimsNaiken

I have been tooting the consent horn and I’ll explain my stand again.

I did not deny that his touch was innocent in context. But the bottom line remains as always if and when you are told by ANYONE man or woman don’t touch me.

The immediate response of a 40+ yr old GROWN mature man cannot be IT WAS NOT A BIG DEAL. That’s the problematic thought I cannot defend nor get behind.

Ejaz has confessed he has an issue with touch he of all people should understand that consent matters. You cannot argue with someone that it was an innocent touch if they JUST told you do not touch me. NEVERmind how trivial that matter or the context.

In my world Consent overrules context.

I touched you cause I think we are friends a Pat on the back to say wayta’go you say hey don’t touch me I say Whoa dude sorry it wasn’t intended to discomfort you. Period. In my head I can be like that wasn’t even such a big deal but my feelings at that time don’t matter. It matters you said don’t touch me. Finish.

Context comes after consent.

I see people trying to justify the touch and making all kinds of comments.

It’s very important to understand consent while context is important.

I hope I made some sense to you? Or are we at an impasse?

Firstly, hey! Nice to see you around. I remember you and I were on the same page last season. Anti Shuklapur vaasi's. So, I'll base that as premise and assume henceforth that you're aware of just how much I condemn people invading private spaces.

Outside world, I agree with you without a doubt. Consent overrules context.

Within that mad house? Context is just as important as consent, especially so in this case.

You're speaking solely based on this one particular incident and I'm speaking on the basis of the understanding of the seasons so far. Everyone in that house has touched each other without consent or permission. Sometimes intentionally, sometimes unintentionally. All kinds of pushes and touches, all kinds of invading private spaces and all kinds of non consensual physical interactions.

Eijaaz has been screaming at the top of his lungs that he has an issue with touch. He still gets touched till date? Did him speaking out lout make any difference to the HM's behaviour whatsoever? Not so much. Does Rubina saying the same make any difference? Nope. Has she previously stated that she has an issue with touch? Not that I remember. Should this anyway be a basic right and understanding in people, absolutely. But has it worked on the show that way? Never. Will it ever? I doubt so.

What does that leaves us with? Context. It is through intention, context and then the said action all put together are we able to understand what x person might have done or was aiming to. Then again, there'll be differences here in comprehension. If someone scores zero on all three levels, intention, context and action, then for sure he should be fired off/told off.

In this particular case, Eijaaz neither intended nor has done any kind of violation of consent or physical space. The grown 35 year old woman in question has also put him through tons and tons instances of mocking, ridiculing and shaming for matters that absolutely are none of her concern whatsoever. Most recent? This episode when she took a dig at him about having made rounds to the medical room for his ongoing health/medical issues.

A fully grown and functional woman should also understand and know well that she has no right to dictate people on how much should they be consuming or what should they be consuming. Everyone is an adult over there, they can handle themselves unless she happens to be the rationing authority which she is not. Verbal responses wise, I'm sure we can quote each other innumerable examples of filth spewed by them all at each other.

I hope now I made some sense to you?

Originally posted by: Nachiketj

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Originally posted by: SimsNaiken

Rubina said don’t touch me. Literally her first line and then Ejaz continued to argue.

Until people learn boundaries cross the sec they don’t touch their body nothing can happen — I can’t repeat this again. Consent trumps context.

If you do that to a Canadian you’ll learn very quickly how important consent is. 🙄 there are no loop holes.

The last point I don’t know so I can’t really comment. I’ve seen Hapsi in Hindi means gluttony and HaBshi in Urdu means N word.

Cause they were talking about food Id assume she said Hapsi but then again this is in the realm of not knowing enough Hindi for me. So she may have said she may not have. No idea. And if she did and it means the N word then clearly she is wrong.

But y didn't BB beep that word if it was racist.

Jasmine said N word in some context tht was not telecasted.

Eizaz the other day used os*****ed word that was beeped

Tomo haraam will be beeped.

What I got hapshi meaning like Jayaji mentioned hogging for food...bhukkad...

Originally posted by: MithiBani

i mostly don’t come here now. I post on twitter these days. I come occasionally when I need to rant. 😆
Thanks. I will always remain a DDTer. :)

Twitter doesn’t have same fun as here. ESP when the blind fans can’t see anything but their idols as godlike 😹😹. As u well know. As u can see they are busy defending racist comments / child abuse and glorifying a hi5 as a non consentual touch :).

Originally posted by: Deviant_Pixel

They also have the same delusions about themselves sadly 😒. According to elite couple, they are very balanced in their nutrition and are not gluttons thats why they keep stuffing the fruit ka ration into their faces 24/7.

However other HMs are still in diaper training so they don't know what food to eat, Rubina wants to make food chart and infact she should feed them one by one by hand as they are toddlers.

Or Rubina thinks that she has paid for the ration and everyone else are bhukkads eating for free, they have never seen muesli in their life......just like she and her husband seem to never have seen fruit in theirs.

Haven’t you heard it’s Miss know it all Rubina Dilaik and her genius hubby with a higher IQ than half India Abhinav’s house. The rest are just their guests. Ruby ne khud toh kaha hai itni baar yeh mera ghar hai blah blah blah 😂🤣😂

Oh and Ruby cares so much about other housemates nutritions? Really? Oh no! I misjudged her badly 😭😭

She cares so much about her fellow contestants. Itni parwah aur fikar hai ussey sab ki so nice of her 😢

My eyes have finally opened. I finally see the light Rubina zindabad 🥳

Abhinav ka rahul k liye kehna k uski aadat hai aisay hasna logon ko copy karna taunt marna lekin rahul se zyada yee abhinav ki aadat hai puray game main taunt karna sarcastically hasna and logon ko copy k elawa kiya kya hai ohoo main to bhool hi gai bean bag pe paray paray bitching ki hai n fruits khaye hain.

Eijaz ki saath ur reaction was uncalled there was no need to get in between them and then showing ur power by saying dont come close to my wife u looked stupid.

It will be better if abhinav tells rubina to stop butting in others personal matters and learn to respect others.

Originally posted by: Jayjaya79

Thats got nothing to do with it, IMO.

No body in mumbai says words like bigot. A bigot is someone who is a racist.

Even that word habshi what was that🤣

Rubinas pearls are too difficult to handle for google baba tooo

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