KKB Episode Discussion Thread # 2 - Page 84

Originally posted by: janecastle

Rhea is beyond any redemption at this point. She is just another antagonist like Aliya, Tanu etc. So it would be really better if creatives won't show any forced sisters bonding. It would be really irritating to watch Prachi bond with someone who tried murder her, defame her and hurt her many times.

I can relate to that opinion. My only problem is i just can't digest Abhi and Pragya's child to be devil's incarnate. It's especially sad for Pragya in my opinion. She loved her sisters and had a great bond with them, they actually loved her back unlike Aliya with Abhi. Then she's lost one of her daughters already. To see her lose another one would be really sad in terms of tragedies this character has faced. Especially if she ends up dead or in jail. Which leaves the redemption arc to tie up the story.

Also personally, i've seen kids around me in real life who have had no limits whatsoever and they are dangerous not only to the people around them but themselves too. Nearly all of them have parent related issues and in some cases abuse related that their families tried solving by throwing money their way or neglecting them further. They've just never been shown limits to what they can do. They were never given a moral upbringing, actually taught the difference between right and wrong. It gets to me because i can see the potential for them to be better. It's really not their fault because children don't ask to be born and thrown into the kind of families or environments they are born in. They pay the price of other people's mistake and then through them so do other people. When parents don't stop their kids when they first make the mistake or ignore it or save them from the consequences of it without letting them absorb it's implications, it just tells them what they are doing is okay and that they can get away with it.

In my eyes the people actually responsible for Rhea being this way are her family i.e. the people who raised her.Kids follow what they see. It's been shown that more than Abhi, Aliya and Meera have had a hand in bringing up Rhea. Abhi loves his daughter but he wasn't exactly a present parent and even if he had been, he's a push over. The way Aliya turned out is a proof of that. Obviously Aliya influence would dominate. She's given Rhea everything she wanted, helped her get away with everything and worst yet, she considers Rhea to be a pawn. Only the kid doesn't even realize she's being used. She thinks this one person is actually sincere to her and understand her pain.

In terms of pshycoanalysis, if one was to do an actual study of Rhea's character, all things remaining the same, it can be concluded that her obsession with Ranbir, her anger, conscienceless actions all stem from her trying to replace the emptiness and pain from her parents (idea of being abandonded and so on). This is a psychological issue that can be treated.

I'm doing a poor job of explaining what i wanted too tbh. I know that everything she did falls under a crime and is something she should be jailed for. But legally it's the victim's prerogative if they want to file a criminal case against her which in this case is Prachi. That will never happen. Hence, the best conclusion then would be to redeem her only doing that will leave the writers without much to write because they aren't really as creative as they'd like to believe.

And yes Rhea is shaping up to be more and more like Aliya but there is a key difference there. A. She genuinely loves her dad and her mother. She wanted to be with them and i think had the writing gone differently, they could have shown her growth in character. B. Aliya is inherently evil. The only thing she cares about more than anything, genuinely so, is money and power. Nothing else matters in front of that. I don't see Rhea being able to deliberately harm Pragya now that she knows she's her mother or her father for that matter. Not in a way that would endanger them at least where as Aliya would do it. Aliya would definitely hurt Rhea and use her to get her means. Rhea wouldn't do that to Aliya if the case was reversed.

Rhea deep down just wants to be loved and put first and wanted. Aliya wants to control everything and everyone.

The difference between Rhea and Prachi's character is that the latter is grounded. She is mature enough to be in a relationship. In fact she needs the kind of fun and ease that a character like Ranbir brings to her life. That isn't the same for Rhea. She's grown up with a fractured mind. She doesn't need a romantic partner, what she needs is an actual family. That stability, security and love.

Some people i know did change even after coming from the worst kind of places upon meeting the right kind of people who could influence them for the better. It's amazing to see the strides they've made and all that they've achieved actually.

Power is just that power - how it's harnessed and directed is what makes all the difference.

But hey, i've probably put more thought into these characters (procrastination FTW) than the CV's have all year.

Originally posted by: Haal-e-Dil

Ok not sure where to ask this but what's going on in social media thread😆 it's like a competition between shona and ....

Don't mind though shona 😆

Jeene ke hai char din

O ho ho ho ho

Baki hai bekar din

O ho ho ho ho

Jaye jaye drama jaye

Ek bar jo jaye

Drama phir na aye🤪

Agreed @misfit007

Sorry not quoting your post. Thoda lamba ho jaata😆

Rhea's issues stem from the bad parenting she has been subjected too. In terms of analysis I would state that she suffers from borderline or histrionic personality disorder.

Loved Pragya Bulbul's bond yes❤️

But Prachi and Rhea can never share the bond as Rhea has moved past redemption.

Prachi did want to file a case but then writers did mess that part with Pragya forcing Prachi to give a statement in favour of Rhea.

But I also feel that the very few times Abhi tried to correct Rhea, she did not make an effort to actually question her motives. Finally it's an individual's response to the environment that guides his or her actions.

Btw am I using too much jargon here? I thought maybe you seem to have studied psychology and hence got overexcited😆

Originally posted by: SillySeasonHere

Jeene ke hai char din

O ho ho ho ho

Baki hai bekar din

O ho ho ho ho

Jaye jaye drama jaye

Ek bar jo jaye

Drama phir na aye🤪

Waah.. kya baat hai... kya baat hai...⭐️

As you rightly pointed out, that it's not the circumstances but the way people respond to circumstances that define us.

Rhea cannot use the excuse of childhood abandonment issue for too long. Especially considering she had pushed Ranbir towards Prachi in order to demean her and overcome her inferiority complex so as to say.

Originally posted by: arviabhigya

Agreed @misfit007

Sorry not quoting your post. Thoda lamba ho jaata😆

Rhea's issues stem from the bad parenting she has been subjected too. In terms of analysis I would state that she suffers from borderline or histrionic personality disorder.

Loved Pragya Bulbul's bond yes❤️

But Prachi and Rhea can never share the bond as Rhea has moved past redemption.

Prachi did want to file a case but then writers did mess that part with Pragya forcing Prachi to give a statement in favour of Rhea.

But I also feel that the very few times Abhi tried to correct Rhea, she did not make an effort to actually question her motives. Finally it's an individual's response to the environment that guides his or her actions.

Btw am I using too much jargon here? I thought maybe you seem to have studied psychology and hence got overexcited😆

I gotchu. I do understand psychology. Sadly i apply it everywhere even to senseless Tv characters that get butchered by CVs poor writing or drama for TRPs. I've questioned myself why over this far too many times. It's true she's beyond redemption at this point and unless she suddenly grows a conscience from somewhere, that opinion ain't changing.

Still sad to see such a complex character with potential for a really interesting story arc get butchered like this. The writers literally do this to every interesting character.

If it wasn't for the actor's, i would have stopped watching the show a long, long time ago. I keep coming back every few months or so because of them. I really want to see them in some great webseries i can actually analyze and has a story with an actual purpose.

Originally posted by: Haal-e-Dil

kaafi heated ho gya hai forum 😆 on one side i itch to reply then like chaddo bey too old for this bakchodi😆 you should reply though

Purana history mera hai kharab Dmg forum mein isibi ganda hota tha, WL tak baat puhuch jati. This is quite tame compared to it

Apna simple funda sayaana dusre ke phate mein tang nahi adana 😆

@Misfit, do you think that the new Rhea (Pooja) lends a greater scope of redemption to the character than the old actress who portrayed her?

Originally posted by: arviabhigya

As you rightly pointed out, that it's not the circumstances but the way people respond to circumstances that define us.

Rhea cannot use the excuse of childhood abandonment issue for too long. Especially considering she had pushed Ranbir towards Prachi in order to demean her and overcome her inferiority complex so as to say.

Definitely, the excuse only gets you so far. But i've always wondered how do people who have a zero moral compass, who've always been shown a skewed version of him, act differently? In that way, aren't they just set up to make poor choices in the first place. I mean what motivates them and how does one stick to it? One must need some really strong reason and motivation to realize they need to make a change, actually make the change and then stick to it. But that's a rare find.

In Rhea's case, she's already passed through major events without change so i mean, can't even comment on that. Once again thanks to the writers for taking every potential and throwing it down the drain. Not every character has to be painted in black and white - why can't they just leave them in the grey.

Originally posted by: misfit007

I can relate to that opinion. My only problem is i just can't digest Abhi and Pragya's child to be devil's incarnate. It's especially sad for Pragya in my opinion. She loved her sisters and had a great bond with them, they actually loved her back unlike Aliya with Abhi. Then she's lost one of her daughters already. To see her lose another one would be really sad in terms of tragedies this character has faced. Especially if she ends up dead or in jail. Which leaves the redemption arc to tie up the story.

Also personally, i've seen kids around me in real life who have had no limits whatsoever and they are dangerous not only to the people around them but themselves too. Nearly all of them have parent related issues and in some cases abuse related that their families tried solving by throwing money their way or neglecting them further. They've just never been shown limits to what they can do. They were never given a moral upbringing, actually taught the difference between right and wrong. It gets to me because i can see the potential for them to be better. It's really not their fault because children don't ask to be born and thrown into the kind of families or environments they are born in. They pay the price of other people's mistake and then through them so do other people. When parents don't stop their kids when they first make the mistake or ignore it or save them from the consequences of it without letting them absorb it's implications, it just tells them what they are doing is okay and that they can get away with it.

In my eyes the people actually responsible for Rhea being this way are her family i.e. the people who raised her.Kids follow what they see. It's been shown that more than Abhi, Aliya and Meera have had a hand in bringing up Rhea. Abhi loves his daughter but he wasn't exactly a present parent and even if he had been, he's a push over. The way Aliya turned out is a proof of that. Obviously Aliya influence would dominate. She's given Rhea everything she wanted, helped her get away with everything and worst yet, she considers Rhea to be a pawn. Only the kid doesn't even realize she's being used. She thinks this one person is actually sincere to her and understand her pain.

In terms of pshycoanalysis, if one was to do an actual study of Rhea's character, all things remaining the same, it can be concluded that her obsession with Ranbir, her anger, conscienceless actions all stem from her trying to replace the emptiness and pain from her parents (idea of being abandonded and so on). This is a psychological issue that can be treated.

I'm doing a poor job of explaining what i wanted too tbh. I know that everything she did falls under a crime and is something she should be jailed for. But legally it's the victim's prerogative if they want to file a criminal case against her which in this case is Prachi. That will never happen. Hence, the best conclusion then would be to redeem her only doing that will leave the writers without much to write because they aren't really as creative as they'd like to believe.

And yes Rhea is shaping up to be more and more like Aliya but there is a key difference there. A. She genuinely loves her dad and her mother. She wanted to be with them and i think had the writing gone differently, they could have shown her growth in character. B. Aliya is inherently evil. The only thing she cares about more than anything, genuinely so, is money and power. Nothing else matters in front of that. I don't see Rhea being able to deliberately harm Pragya now that she knows she's her mother or her father for that matter. Not in a way that would endanger them at least where as Aliya would do it. Aliya would definitely hurt Rhea and use her to get her means. Rhea wouldn't do that to Aliya if the case was reversed.

Rhea deep down just wants to be loved and put first and wanted. Aliya wants to control everything and everyone.

The difference between Rhea and Prachi's character is that the latter is grounded. She is mature enough to be in a relationship. In fact she needs the kind of fun and ease that a character like Ranbir brings to her life. That isn't the same for Rhea. She's grown up with a fractured mind. She doesn't need a romantic partner, what she needs is an actual family. That stability, security and love.

Some people i know did change even after coming from the worst kind of places upon meeting the right kind of people who could influence them for the better. It's amazing to see the strides they've made and all that they've achieved actually.

Power is just that power - how it's harnessed and directed is what makes all the difference.

But hey, i've probably put more thought into these characters (procrastination FTW) than the CV's have all year.

😲

Itni bheja tho ye writers ne nahi lagaya hoga is dil ki buri batata puri pe