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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: goldiesif


Yup, the way he handled and edits done raise eyebrows. That's boosting already boosted image and dusting already dusted image.


I just watched the epi and I agree with your point although I don’t like Sanam....but Kamal was biased in handling it.

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: goldiesif

Nice to see Suresh and Sanam settling differences and being respectful to each other. They handled situation better than host. Sanam grudge towards Suresh being projected as planned act by host raises question. It required Sanam to intervene and explain for KH to agree on her point. Poor portrayal.

On the same incident questioning HM for pounding on Suresh as if they didn't understand what happened looked poor portrayal of situation.


Was not able to stand by worried aajeed discussion with Sanam. He is clearly not understanding the game.


Sanam agreed that it could come from grudge.she hold the past incident in mind and act on it. She confessed thats what she did.

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Posted: 5 years ago

Thatha didnt hit sanam knowing it was sanam. Thatha shouldnt have hit ramya/nisha/sanam if it is against rules of this devil task. even more should know better and refrain where it can physically harm others.

But Sanam and archana and everyone else acted as if Thatha did it out of grudge against sanam.(including bala).


that is not the case. Thatha does dislike sanam. But as even we can see he didnt know who he was hitting.


Thatha had to apologise for this, he has done this.even bb need to analyze if it crosses their limits.


But what Sanam did was grudge. She agreed. btw this grudge is only natural considering how thatha was with her before. it is very natural.


Kamal did diss domestic violence and clearly covered his ground on that.


Sanam gamewise has played very well for past 2 days. (a chameleon so is bala but this is bb house it is fun to see them play this well).

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: llptch


Terrible handling by Kamal. The Sanam/Vel interaction happened after the Suresh argument. I recall Sanam still being upset as she just had her outburst. Don’t know why Vel did andhar balti and said it was before. Suresh’s face started scrutinising what Kamal’s reveal meant. He might now start triggering people against Sanam thinking it was a planned act by her. Also if Sanam had apologised (and even Suresh agreed she did), why did Kamal have to poke this again and make her apologise in front of everyone? They could have just telecasted that bit during the weekday show.

After hitting a person, is it wrong to ask someone to say sorry? Why is Kamal saying others should have first investigated who did wrong and then spoken up against Suresh? Kamal is the wrong person to speak against domestic violence considering his own history...

I have to disagree with you as well as Ramesh-ji.

The incident which happened between Sanam and Velmurugan happened before the hitting incident. I don’t know if it came in episode or unseen but I remember it came before the main action. Sanam was telling Velmurugan she was upset with Suresh as he irritated her so much (Suresh and team did it for the task). She was talking avan evan etc . KH referred to that and said did u create this scene after that othigai.
I find no fault in it and applaud the right question.

KH didn’t say anything abt Archana asking Suresh to say sorry incident, he was against that the whole house was on fire without analyzing what really happened. Aatu mandhai mathiri everyone said Suresh is wrong and no one condemned Sanam for name calling an elder person without respect.
KH also condemned Suresh first even if it is for game pls don’t portray violent behavior of male towards female . I felt it is a strong statement for this incident and we had to see what happened in season 1 when Snehan played a much violent game against Suja. Compared to that this is just erumbu kadicha mathiri. Small incident fully blown up by Sanam and Archana.


edited to add - to be precise, Sanam talked about Suresh to Velmurugan ‘nee yaruda ennai pattai pesa ...’. It was day 17 10:10 am. If you see the unseen episode, this topic starts at the min 6:45 in the below link. Main fight happened much later.


https://www.tamildhool.net/vijay-tv/vijay-tv-show/bigg-boss-tamil-season-4/bigg-boss-tamil-unseen-day-17/

Edited by Honeyarjun - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Honeyarjun

I have to disagree with you as well as Ramesh-ji.

The incident which happened between Sanam and Velmurugan happened before the hitting incident. I don’t know if it came in episode or unseen but I remember it came before the main action. Sanam was telling Velmurugan she was upset with Suresh as he irritated her so much (Suresh and team did it for the task). She was talking avan evan etc . KH referred to that and said did u create this scene after that othigai.
I find no fault in it and applaud the right question.

KH didn’t say anything abt Archana asking Suresh to say sorry incident, he was against that the whole house was on fire without analyzing what really happened. Aatu mandhai mathiri everyone said Suresh is wrong and no one condemned Sanam for name calling an elder person without respect.
KH also condemned Suresh first even if it is for game pls don’t portray violent behavior of male towards female . I felt it is a strong statement for this incident and we had to see what happened in season 1 when Snehan played a much violent game against Suja. Compared to that this is just erumbu kadicha mathiri. Small incident fully blown up by Sanam and Archana.


But wasn't Suresh still wrong for constantly targeting Sanam? Everyone else agreed she flared up because he was targeting her throughout the week, and that's why they were okay with him apologising. They just told Suresh "say sorry to her", but didn't push more than that because at that moment Sanam was emotional. Archana made him apologise to her face because he said sorry without addressing her directly. The moment Sanam was hit she naturally thought he purposely did it. Even in the audio the hits to Nisha with that stick was heard, so it was not some regifoam object like people are saying online. He was also hitting Nisha on the head with his hands. Nisha is an aamaam saami punching bag so she didn't care, but obviously Ramya and Sanam were bothered by it.


If Kamal wanted to be fair he would have spoken about Suresh telling Sanam "Vaguduruven", "chee thoo", "athunda pakkathulaye pogi irukka maaten", "thakka piece". Anyone would naturally react when provoked, and maybe she reacted more than needed, but it was obviously known something would explode between the two if it continues. Kamal focused more on Sanam's behaviour, even continuing beyond her apologising (offscreen and on the Saturday show), so it seemed very one sided.

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Honeyarjun

edited to add - to be precise, Sanam talked about Suresh to Velmurugan ‘nee yaruda ennai pattai pesa ...’. It was day 17 10:10 am. If you see the unseen episode, this topic starts at the min 6:45 in the below link. Main fight happened much later.


https://www.tamildhool.net/vijay-tv/vijay-tv-show/bigg-boss-tamil-season-4/bigg-boss-tamil-unseen-day-17/


My reading on that conversation was she was specifically talking about Balaji targeting her and said a generic statement like "ennada aalalukku merattitu poreenga" about Suresh too doing that. I really doubt she was directly referencing to Suresh as "avan" here, and said she could easily say that but won't.

Indha unseen scenes magnifying glass vachi paarkura Kamal, enn maththa behaviour laam ignore panraar? In my opinion, elders respect depends on how respectful they behave. If I'm angry and feel unfairly provoked, I might momentarily react the same too, and then compose myself. The channel had a choice to telecast that or not if they were bothered by "decorum", and then also shown the apology to prove it was unacceptable behaviour.


ETA: In today's episode, Vel is narrating about something else totally unrelated to the scene referred to in the unseen. He is saying when Suresh was hitting others, Sanam told her "avarukkulaam vayasukku kooda mariyaatha kudukka maaten". None of those happened, because in the garden scene she says she is respecting his age and won't speak back, and we didn't see any scene in unseen or otherwise like what Vel said. Kamal didn't correct Vel, and made it seem like what he said only happened by telling "yes this is what I'm talking about, avanga erkanavey othigai paarthuttu plan panni vanthaanga".

Edited by llptch - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago

Just finished watching today’s episode. Yes , another boring weekend episode.

Balaji is immatured like what everyone is saying. He thinks he is intelligent and knows everything but he doesn’t even have 10% of the life experience, maturity, smartness(can even say cunning) of Suresh. He is going to think Thatha created a scene inside confession room with crying drama for votes and spoiled my name with audience. If he thinks like this, then there is going to be a big fight between Suresh and Balaji this coming week.

KH was indirectly helping Archana but she couldn’t handle that criticism. I thought she is matured but being inside BB house will change everyone I guess. Gaby trying to create a love drama but Balaji spoiled her fun plan by calling her thangachi but he is keeping his options open for Shivani. Please one of them should get evicted before that drama starts.

That saving and evict game clearly portrayed Aari’s stand. He neither has supporters nor haters both inside and outside. It is in his hands to change this neutral position to positive in the coming weeks.

Liked KH’s questioning to Sanam (already expressed my views in the previous post). Small things like Anitha tick podalai-na sandai poduvangala to Som, Shivani erukeengala etc. liked Shivani and Sam’s reasoning. They both have potential, start playing the game girls.

Bala would think I am saved first so audience like my arrogant , outspoken attitude. He will torture and test our patience more in the coming weeks. BB team will be happy by athi vettufying Bala 😆.

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Honeyarjun

I have to disagree with you as well as Ramesh-ji.

The incident which happened between Sanam and Velmurugan happened before the hitting incident. I don’t know if it came in episode or unseen but I remember it came before the main action. Sanam was telling Velmurugan she was upset with Suresh as he irritated her so much (Suresh and team did it for the task). She was talking avan evan etc . KH referred to that and said did u create this scene after that othigai.
I find no fault in it and applaud the right question.

KH didn’t say anything abt Archana asking Suresh to say sorry incident, he was against that the whole house was on fire without analyzing what really happened. Aatu mandhai mathiri everyone said Suresh is wrong and no one condemned Sanam for name calling an elder person without respect.
KH also condemned Suresh first even if it is for game pls don’t portray violent behavior of male towards female . I felt it is a strong statement for this incident and we had to see what happened in season 1 when Snehan played a much violent game against Suja. Compared to that this is just erumbu kadicha mathiri. Small incident fully blown up by Sanam and Archana.


edited to add - to be precise, Sanam talked about Suresh to Velmurugan ‘nee yaruda ennai pattai pesa ...’. It was day 17 10:10 am. If you see the unseen episode, this topic starts at the min 6:45 in the below link. Main fight happened much later.


https://www.tamildhool.net/vijay-tv/vijay-tv-show/bigg-boss-tamil-season-4/bigg-boss-tamil-unseen-day-17/


Well said ..

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: llptch


My reading on that conversation was she was specifically talking about Balaji targeting her and said a generic statement like "ennada aalalukku merattitu poreenga" about Suresh too doing that. I really doubt she was directly referencing to Suresh as "avan" here, and said she could easily say that but won't.

Indha unseen scenes magnifying glass vachi paarkura Kamal, enn maththa behaviour laam ignore panraar? In my opinion, elders respect depends on how respectful they behave. If I'm angry and feel unfairly provoked, I might momentarily react the same too, and then compose myself. The channel had a choice to telecast that or not if they were bothered by "decorum", and then also shown the apology to prove it was unacceptable behaviour.


ETA: In today's episode, Vel is narrating about something else totally unrelated to the scene referred to in the unseen. He is saying when Suresh was hitting others, Sanam told her "avarukkulaam vayasukku kooda mariyaatha kudukka maaten". None of those happened, because in the garden scene she says she is respecting his age and won't speak back, and we didn't see any scene in unseen or otherwise like what Vel said. Kamal didn't correct Vel, and made it seem like what he said only happened by telling "yes this is what I'm talking about, avanga erkanavey othigai paarthuttu plan panni vanthaanga".


@bold : I cannot agree to this. Whether others behave or not, every individual will behave based on their brought up. For some people how much angry they are, they cannot speak disrespectful to their elders like vada, poda.. how many of us would have called our appa vada , how much ever they would have scolded us ?

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: llptch


My reading on that conversation was she was specifically talking about Balaji targeting her and said a generic statement like "ennada aalalukku merattitu poreenga" about Suresh too doing that. I really doubt she was directly referencing to Suresh as "avan" here, and said she could easily say that but won't.

Indha unseen scenes magnifying glass vachi paarkura Kamal, enn maththa behaviour laam ignore panraar? In my opinion, elders respect depends on how respectful they behave. If I'm angry and feel unfairly provoked, I might momentarily react the same too, and then compose myself. The channel had a choice to telecast that or not if they were bothered by "decorum", and then also shown the apology to prove it was unacceptable behaviour.


ETA: In today's episode, Vel is narrating about something else totally unrelated to the scene referred to in the unseen. He is saying when Suresh was hitting others, Sanam told her "avarukkulaam vayasukku kooda mariyaatha kudukka maaten". None of those happened, because in the garden scene she says she is respecting his age and won't speak back, and we didn't see any scene in unseen or otherwise like what Vel said. Kamal didn't correct Vel, and made it seem like what he said only happened by telling "yes this is what I'm talking about, avanga erkanavey othigai paarthuttu plan panni vanthaanga".


Sanam spoke about Balaji first and then she mentioned Suresh and spoke about him without respect. Please see that video from 3:45 to 8.45.

I absolutely hate young people talking to elders without respect no matter what. Yes , Suresh is at fault for calling Sanam all those things u mentioned. Atleast he said those things on her face (either for the task or afterwards). She called him thimingalam and other things behind his back. Whatever happened, you can not call one elder person vada poda in real life or in national TV. I think it depends upon your personal nature, I am from Coimbatore where giving respect to elders is a big thing. I am also a parent so That’s why I am agitated to see that behaviour of Sanam.
Yes, Velmurugan spoke abt another incident or they talked more which wasn’t shown to us. They don’t show everything that happens inside the house to us. They cut short all 24 hr happenings to one hour and show only only important/spicy stuff. KH also doesnt see everything, sees only the parts which is shown to him by BB team. That’s why he didn’t correct Velmurugan.

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