Suman's parameters of judgement - Page 2

Suman is classic example of the type of person one should never fall in love with.. Lol

Won't be surprised if writers take this suman's madness till the last end where they show shravan dying and somehow proving he genuinely respects her dad... Then suman shown happy on experiencing true love in life..looking at portraits of her father and shravan on her bedroom wall😆

Originally posted by: Kaira4ever

True on compassion.... the parameters are beyond normal here, and I do hear you. I can see that his very deep love for her would mean he would be sad for her. He is able to look past his own very hurt feelings, and feel that compassion and empathy for her feelings. Sure, granted and that’s a fair point.

But that doesn’t mean you Feel compelled to act... and even worse, encourage Vikram :)? I mean he barely knows the guy! Even if he wanted to do something nice, or consoling, hey use Veer! He’s your buddy ! All of x many days as well but greater than Vikram .... jhumri damru whatever. Playing Cupid makes no sense to me...

And ofc hamari Sumo ok tho serious Ilaj ki zaroorat hai....

In that moment, I guess Shravan didn't look at it as "encouraging Vikram"....all he wanted was some way of consoling Suman. Veer was a kid so I guess he wouldn't have really known how to console a crying Suman.

There was this element of deep helplessness in Shravan as he said, "main kar bhi kya sakta hoon"....and it was that helplessness that made him willing even to use Vikram as a proxy to somehow get through to Sumo. For whatever reason, Vikram has become a proxy between Shravan and Sumo even though he has no realization about it.....lol even Sumo essentially just uses him to keep Shravan away from her.

I don't want Shravan playing cupid either but I think today's scene didn't really go in that category....he mainly just wanted help with cheering Suman up, so it was ok.

Originally posted by: falah5

Suman is classic example of the type of person one should never fall in love with.. Lol

Won't be surprised if writers take this suman's madness till the last end where they show shravan dying and somehow proving he genuinely respects her dad... Then suman shown happy on experiencing true love in life..looking at portraits of her father and shravan on her bedroom wall😆

Oh snap🤣🤣.....well that will truly be a "hatke" realization if that's the level the writers want to take this to😆

Originally posted by: falah5

Suman is classic example of the type of person one should never fall in love with.. Lol

Won't be surprised if writers take this suman's madness till the last end where they show shravan dying and somehow proving he genuinely respects her dad... Then suman shown happy on experiencing true love in life..looking at portraits of her father and shravan on her bedroom wall😆

ROFL..... 😃
nahiiiiiiiin! Yeh nahin ho saktha. Or with some classic dialog like that....

Don’t forget Anjali and likely dada Ji ki portrait as well... so wall space nahin bachega.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Like many others, I'm also genuinely stumped by what the writers are attempting to show with Suman since the breakup and it's aftermath.

1) She keeps repeating that she never really knew Shravan, he gave her dhoka....but we are never given any basis for this other than the one FB of Daddu saying "corrupt Devraj made the faulty vests which caused Vijay's death".....in this FB, it is DEVRAJ who is being accused....so where does Shravan get attached to this point?

2) Today, we are shown that she only ponders giving Shravan the benefit of doubt for a second cuz TODAY she saw genuine pain in his eyes and felt he might sincerely feel grief over her father's death? WHERE did Shravan EVER show anything BUT grief for her father's death? He was literally WITH her the moment she got the news, he literally held her while she cried.... and he was right in front of her eyes at the funeral....she saw his tears for her with her own eyes and she still has DOUBT about him feeling pain for her father....what kind of amazing amnesia is this?😕

3) Everything aside, she is acting like this is some cheap competition between her father's win and Shravan's father's win....it is staggering to see such life and death stakes being viewed in such a childish fashion....the fact that the writers make her mouth such asinine lines with a straight face is another level of insult to the audience's intelligence.

To show a Suman who only condescends to "care" for someone if they meet her twisted criteria of respect and concern for her father is beyond ridiculous. No normal person would give such a person time of day. To then show characters like Kancha and the rest of the Tiwaris normalizing this delusion and continuing to push this alternate reality where Shravan supposedly never cared for Suman's father is another level of bullshit.

4) Another bit I found completely stupid today was Suman claiming she "let down her father" by losing the case.....lol again, this girl has no cognizance of ground reality and lives in her own head. Even the excuse of grief can't be stretched this far....she is dangerously delusional now in whatever parameters she has cooked up in her head about what it means to "live up to her father's dreams". None of what she is doing right now was ever stated by Vijay to be his "dream" for her....he never explicitly said ki leave Shravan, hate him, then pursue a baseless treason case for 7 years to make me proud....yet Suman persists in this delusion and the entire Tiwari clan acts like it's perfectly normal that they still want only Devraj to die for this even if the actual culprits have been indicted😕

One is forced then to conclude that this is just a cheap game for them, not about any real justice. There really is no rock bottom for how pathetic the mentality of the Tiwari family is. What a shame.

5) Ultimately, Suman comes across not just as a highly judgemental person but a highly delusional one as well....being delusional and judgemental at the same time is a dangerous combination. She is passing judgements based on her own delusions.....she doesn't want to face any truth or reality. How can one even begin to deal with such a person.

And it does beg the question....what kind of a love story is it when one person is so extremely self-centered and still insists on dictating every relationship based on her own perceptions? Suman is very much behaving as if Shravan doesn't deserve any regard unless he explicitly hero worships her dad just as blindly as she does. His own pain doesn't count unless it's the kind of pain that she can see. This sounds ridiculous and I can't believe this is what the writers are going with😕😆.

Totally agree with everything but eao this made me like wth when did vijay ever said that my life goal is to make devraj and family suffer or that is the only way to make me proud how does her losing the case correlate to her being a good officer or not ? Her father being proud of her or not. So she would rather punish and hang an innocent person to make her dad proud she'd think that's made vijay proud irony is how little she knew her own father whom she claims to be devta 🤣 just andha ness lol🤣 abhi bhi if she is baying for blood to go for the names explicitly mentioned how come devraj comes under line of fore yet again.

Sabse funny was daddu ka FB repeating the same lines again and suman crying a river over that even after hearing clearly that nothing was devraj's fault that "HE DIDN'T MADE the fault jackets for peanut profits. But deaf and blind hona toh koi isse seekhe😆🤣

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Oh snap🤣🤣.....well that will truly be a "hatke" realization if that's the level the writers want to take this to😆

Oh wait are you hinting at suman will only realize when shravan will ear the same vest from same batch and kuddo in battlefield🤣🤣 oh that will be something but then we are talking about sumo she will again file a case on shravan for being dhokebaaz and wearing the faulty jacket and would want to hang devraj again for it🤣

Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli

Totally agree with everything but eao this made me like wth when did vijay ever said that my life goal is to make devraj and family suffer or that is the only way to make me proud how does her losing the case correlate to her being a good officer or not ? Her father being proud of her or not. So she would rather punish and hang an innocent person to make her dad proud she'd think that's made vijay proud irony is how little she knew her own father whom she claims to be devta 🤣 just andha ness lol🤣 abhi bhi if she is baying for blood to go for the names explicitly mentioned how come devraj comes under line of fore yet again.

Sabse funny was daddu ka FB repeating the same lines again and suman crying a river over that even after hearing clearly that nothing was devraj's fault that "HE DIDN'T MADE the fault jackets for peanut profits. But deaf and blind hona toh koi isse seekhe😆🤣

Is ladki ka lack of comprehension level is beyond any reason. Vijay ke naam pe kya kya ajeeb kaand kar rahi hai khud hi imagine kar kar ke.

Making your father your hero is one thing....but what Suman is doing now is literally an insult to his name on every level. Apne so called "perfect" father ki memory mein she is blindly conducting a witch hunt of an innocent person. Devraj was not directly responsible for the vests or Vijay's death - courts ne bhi bol diya. But Queen Sumo ke liye Daddu ka one random comment is vachan and shaasan 😕.....Daddu ne Devraj ko corrupt bol diya matlab Vijay's memory will only be "honored" if Sumo Devi can prove Devraj a corrupt traitor? Yeh log kis duniya mein jeete hain......the level to which they have dragged a man who at the most committed the crime of ego and petty bribery.

So is it fair that someone who steals a car be given the same level of punishment as a mass murderer? Is that the code of "justice" being preached here? Law ki basic samajh hai bhi kisi ko ki nahin ki bas apne fantasy world mein hi rehna hai....that seems to be the fashion in the world aajkal.

Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli

Oh wait are you hinting at suman will only realize when shravan will ear the same vest from same batch and kuddo in battlefield🤣🤣 oh that will be something but then we are talking about sumo she will again file a case on shravan for being dhokebaaz and wearing the faulty jacket and would want to hang devraj again for it🤣

LOL yes🤣.....then Sumo will get "justice" for BOTH Shravan and Vijay by STILL targeting Devraj🤣.....and that will prove her "true lowe" for Shravan too🤔😆.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

LOL yes🤣.....then Sumo will get "justice" for BOTH Shravan and Vijay by STILL targeting Devraj🤣.....and that will prove her "true lowe" for Shravan too🤔😆.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

LOL yes🤣.....then Sumo will get "justice" for BOTH Shravan and Vijay by STILL targeting Devraj🤣.....and that will prove her "true lowe" for Shravan too🤔😆.

Yes then she will have more fodder to waste another 7 years harassing someone and ghaseeto them on court kachehri and have an accessory in name of vakil to flaunt 😆 and then she will again give bhashans on dhokebaaz shravan how he wore it and died waise bhi she was pissed one day on him.keeping his life on line as if she really cares agar koi iske aas paas jiye ya mare