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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Aishu13


First of all thank you Mini! I loved your post! The thing here though is that neither one of them are completely wrong, nor are they both equally correct.


Abir's band-aid comes at a cost of his self respect, and Mishti's surgery (Deepa's brilliant word) comes at a cost sometimes the blameless to be blamed. The thing is they need to balance their viewpoints and how Badimaa said it, listen to each other. Mishti has identified Kuhu as a potential threat, and is trying to warn Abir but he sees Meenakshi pull the strings and doesn't care. Because of Meenu's dominant personality one person has to mellow down, and Abir takes it by leaving the house while most of the family sides with Meenu even if he brings up a valid point. I think this is the root cause of his self depreciation, his voice is the only one ringing for them all but no one not even Nanu at times is willing to support him at the cost of Meenu. It is sad that he feels that his family is better off without him, and leaves. But when he tried to move out they stopped him, I think it is very mixed signals. See he has reached a point where no one wants to support him, remember the baba track when his father basically went and got his marriage fixed, not one person was happy for him. Nanu later on agrees, but at that time he himself is mad. He found his self worth in that household by helping others and not expecting much in return which has unfortunately caused him to do the same outside of his household. Many people realize this and help and accept him, but like Kunal said many others try and take advantage of that. Everyone is in praises of Kunal today, but I think this is the actual Kunal. If you think about it, in the beginning Abir keeps saying that Kunal was not like this, the one year with Meenu one-on-one had changed him. I thought he was making excuses at that time, but now I think Abir was right, Kunal wasn't so selfish. And as much as we hate Kuhu right now, she has shown him the mirror of his actions and has been scarred by his actions.


I can't believe I am defending Kuhu, but yes she has always been like this. She is spoiled, but she is also hurt. Just like Mishti, for some time in her life, she wasn't accepted by her own father. (P.S I didn't watch parent show so please correct me if I am wrong, I just saw some scenes.) When she is accepted by her family, in her mind, they are "stolen" by Mishti. None of it is true, but in her mind that is what she thinks. She has made up that all the problems were caused by Mishti and has never been checked by her family, rather they fanned it! And that has festered into an ugly mindset that is affecting her love life, as well as Mishti's. Because Kunal had fooled her once because of Mishti, she is afraid it may happen again, and is trying to get rid of her before that. But in this process she is not realizing that she is distancing herself from Kunal. Due to the distance, she is angry again, and blames Mishti, it is a pretty vicious cycle. It is crazy how insecure all these characters are, I think it is what makes them all real, and makes us so frustrated or attached to them.

@bold - Aishu can u elaborate??

Basically what ur saying is by not listening to any of his opinions Abir thought that he was not needed there... since his opinions never matter?? When push comes to shove in their battle of wills, all family members will chose Meenu over him and he doesn't want to cause further unrest by staying at RV house and questioning Meenu's every move, but his nature wouldn't allow him to submit also. So, he runs away from the situation. He found his worth by helping others or making their voices heard.

Kunal was always like this, it goes with the Kunal who was potrayed in the beginning of the show. He goes along with his maa's and bhai's wishes, because the guy doesn't know what he wants basically. He was the ball in their tennis match😆 His world revolves around his mother and brother. For him to accept anyone into that circle is difficult. His treatment of Mishti is understandable. He wanted a wife who would be just like him......someone who goes along with what the family wants. When Mishti rejected him his ego was hurt and he made her into a conniving person in his mind based on Meenu's inputs. So, basically to save his bhai he became 'sabse bura'(in his words) and when he realised his bhai was suffering he became 'sabse accha'. Now, he has admitted he loves Kuhu, but the fact is we don't know whether he loves the real Kuhu or if he loves the version of Kuhu who makes his family happy by her Kuhuness. Now, its actually a test of his love when he realises the person he married is complicated, not simple in her motivations as him.

Coming to Kuhu, honestly her POV and backstory is not convincing, because it has never been shown properly.

Okay, her birth was not perfect, she was the illegitimate kid of the family. But the fact is, it was a long time ago. She was accepted into the family when she was 5 or 6, Varsha became her mother from then on. She struggled. But I dnt know how much scarred for life you will be for the struggle she faced when she was 5 ? Like was she taunted in school for being illegitimate? Or what exactly did she suffer for having a deep resentment against Mishti that she is willing to go to any extreme??

Okay, I understand anyone would feel bad to share their family and would feel insecure when another person gets more attention. But is that really a big reason for having a deep rooted hatred and resentment against another person, to the extent that you abuse them physically and mentally at every turn?? But, she was supportive too when the said person was suffering from heartbreak. Honestly, her character sketch is not convincing unless they are showing her as someone who has the maturity of a 10 year old. Unless someone has any pointers on the why's of her behaviour??

Coming to Mishti, her scars are easily visible because she got them when she was 13 or 14 when she was an almost grown up and could understand what was going around her and got hurt because of that. Like, her parents gave her up, she was uprooted from the family she grew up to another one where she was not fully accepted and her classmates used to taunt her saying she was a murderer's daughter. So, we can relate somewhat more to her state of mind. Not that everything she does is relatable.

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Mimzy

@bold - Aishu can u elaborate??

Basically what ur saying is by not listening to any of his opinions Abir thought that he was not needed there... since his opinions never matter?? When push comes to shove in their battle of wills, all family members will chose Meenu over him and he doesn't want to cause further unrest by staying at RV house and questioning Meenu's every move, but his nature wouldn't allow him to submit also. So, he runs away from the situation. He found his worth by helping others or making their voices heard.

Kunal was always like this, it goes with the Kunal who was potrayed in the beginning of the show. He goes along with his maa's and bhai's wishes, because the guy doesn't know what he wants basically. He was the ball in their tennis match😆 His world revolves around his mother and brother. For him to accept anyone into that circle is difficult. His treatment of Mishti is understandable. He wanted a wife who would be just like him......someone who goes along with what the family wants. When Mishti rejected him his ego was hurt and he made her into a connoving person in bis mind based on Meenu's inputs. So, basically to save his bhai he became 'sabse bura'(in his words) and when realised his bhai was suffering he became 'sabse accha'. Now, he jas admitted he loves Kuhu, but the fact is we don't know whether he loves the real Kuhu or if he loves the version of Kuhu who makes his family happy by her Kuhuness. Now, its actually a test of his love when he realises the person he married is complicated, not simple in their motivations as him.

Coming to Kuhu, honestly her POV and backstory is not convincing, because it has never been shown properly.

Okay, her birth was not perfect, she was the illegitimate kid of the family. But the fact is, it was a long time ago. She was accepted into the family when she was 5 or 6, Varsha became her mother from then on. She struggled. But I dnt know how much scarred for life you will be for the struggle she faced when she was 5 ? Like was she taunted in school for being illegitimate? Or what exactly did she suffer for having a deep resentment against Mishti that she is willing to go to any extreme??

Okay, I understand anyone would feel bad to share their family and would feel insecure when another person gets more attention. But is that really a big reason for having a deep rooted hatred and resentment against another person, to the extent that you abuse them physically and mentally at every turn?? But, she was supportive too when the said person was suffering from heartbreak. Honestly, her character sketch is not convincing unless they are showing her as someone who has the maturity of a 10 year old. Unless someone has any pointers on the why's of her behaviour??

Coming to Mishti, her scars are easily visible because she got them when she was 13 or 14 when she was an almost grown up and could understand what was going around her and got hurt because of that. Like, her parents gave her up, she was uprooted from the family she grew up to another one where she was not fully accepted and her classmates used to taunt her saying she was a murderer's daughter. So, we can relate somewhat more to her state of mind. Not that everything she does is relatable.


I think we all agree that mishku equation is messed up. It’s basically added resentments if so many years. Kuhu keeps remembering all the apparent neglect she had to suffer bcoz of mishti .. for example the doll incident. Does that mean she was the only one to adjust or sacrifice?? Is her version 100% correct.. or is her version that BM /BP neglected her a distorted version??

We always see things the same way we want to, unless. Someone we respect, love or someone qualified shows us the reality. And kuhu is far away from reality. That does not mean she is not suffering or her issues are not real. abinal fails to understand that.

I also don’t understand that how come even after kuhu cools down she doesn’t realize how far she goes with her words and actions when mishti is concerned?? A human being will feel remorse and will apologize when the heat of the moment cools down.. but I have never seen her apologizing. This is not humane.And Now this madness is spilling away to abir as well

Like how kuhu is not happy with anything mishti does

If she works in kunal company then she is trying to undermine kunal

If she takes the ownership of the company she ya taking away kunal’s hard work

If she gives back the company it is bcoz she is a freeloaderabd wants to eat angoor with her freeloader husband

So kuhu herself doesn’t know what she is upset about and what she wants

And when kunal married her as a revenge, it was mishti’s fault

When kunal acknowledges Parul, it is mishti’s fault

Can she ever show anger at the right person?? If kunal consulted mishti or abir it was wrong of kunal that he didn’t talk to kuhu but kuhu again blames mishti.

she needs counseling and all these people are not seeing the ticking time bomb that is kuhu .


so there is no way mishti or anyone can resolve issues with kuhu as she has a deep rooted mental problem where she sees herself as a victim and mishti as her tormented. She definitely needs professional help, a shrink basically

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: piyasingh

Mini thank god u highlighted my name otherwise i wld have missed it.. 😆 i usually read last 2 pages posts and thats it..but i saw diyu's reply to ur post so i followed this to read the whole matter..😃😆 uff kitna mehanat kerna padta hai muje😆

Han yaar when BM is here, why fear..😛

When one is angry other shd keep quiet.. haina.. that clearly mean my hubby has to keep quiet🤣🤣 Coz mera anger to naak per baitha rehta hai as i m short tempered to use time kaha milega bolne ka😆😆

Bold : agree and i agree with @diya also that "a woman's respect in house is defined by how her husband is treated". If her husband is ill treated then woman will always feel inferior and will not be given importance..uski bato ko sab "chal be chal" ker denge..Means they wld avoid her too..


I am sry piya maam for making u do mehnat for mesmiley17It must have been really tiring to track down the post.smiley44 Poor girl......😒

@bold - LOL......u conveniently heard what u wanted to hear. 😆Uska ek dusra hissa bhi hain. In simple words.....agar ek din tum apne hubby ka band bajaoge toh dusre din woh tumara band bajayenge......😆 Temper sabko aata hain......even I have or maybe not that much😛....par jab aata hain toh control nahin hota. We cancerians are considered to be the most probable to become psychopaths or serial killers..😛

True...even the viceversa is true insulting mishti means you are insulting Abir, which mera pyaara nanko pointed out😛

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Onyourface


Kya bataun mini Bada hi bakwas din tha 😆 dhang se kaam karne ko nahi mila , laptop kaam nahi kiya, dusre laptop pe wi fi nahi chala 😆 jaise raise jugaad kar ke kaam kiya hai aaj thanks for asking 😛


Ab sab theek hai bhai... aapne papers sign kar liye ? 😆😆 Itna jo bawal macha rahe the kal raat ko resort mein

Okay......kaam ki tension hain. Par aap toh kaam ki tension lete hi nahi ho....😆

Kaam ke tension lena toh mera kaam haina??

Kya bataun bhai......papers toh sign karliya....par yeh kuhune jeena haram karke rakha hain. Aap kaise ho bhai.....dard horaha hai kya, dande se maar jo mila hain aapko??😛

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Onyourface


Mini....... ❤️


Nanko ka role bada seriously le rahi ho tum ❤️❤️ Mein aur pali ek jaise hai in a way 😆😆 kya baat kya baat 🤗🤗🤗 hamara nanko toh bada samajhdaar ho gaya hai 😎😆


Shah was bang on as usual...upar se white shirt , haaye maza hi aa gaya aaj toh ❤️❤️❤️


Arey haan 🤣🤣 Where did they change the clothes lol 🤣 resort mein toh general restroom hota hai na 😆


Hahahahaha 🤣🤣🤣 Perfect decoding for nanko , in this serial the characters don't follow the advices that they give to others 😆😆


Oh yes , bm and BP ki marriage mein koi trouble nahi aayi , they know how to balance it all


🤗🤗🤗🤗

Nanko is samajhdhaar bas kisiko dikhaatha nahi hun😆


Shah is always amazing❤️Happy bday Shah❤️

Common restroom hoga....but they have to keep their spare clothes somewhere naaa......so it should have been in kuku's room only😆🤣🤣


Exactly !!!nobody follows their own advises......hypocrites hain sab ke sab. But realistic in a way, we also never seem to follow our own advises.😆dusron ko gyaan dena is easy ......par khud apne gyaan follow karna......not so much😆


Sahi hain.....BM-BP is a team. I love how BP looks at BM before taking a decision and she encourages him by nodding her head and closing her eyes.❤️

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: piyasingh

Oh god ushi i really thght u r telling mini abt ur day.. later i realised u r nanko😆

Huh???......confused much??🤣🤣

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: SheThought


Hello Shello Uru 😎

Kem chho?


Haha Mini IS taking Nanko role very seriously. Bhai-Bhabhi are in his good books, hope ye kripa bani rahe 😆

Nanko thinks Nanko was the superstar ⭐️ Wah, kya baat hai Mini 😆


Uru, that car and face washing scene yaar... I saw it so many times, and want to watch it again!!! Shah and his expressions.... main fida fida fida! I love such scenes more than romance tbh! The pain and angst that Shaheera portrayed has my heart ❤️

Uff and the white shirt


Actually they stopped our show at a high point! This mandatory break right now perfectly depicts this is how long Abir and Mishti feel they are apart for and pinning for each other!

@bold - I mean why shouldn't I consider myself as a superstar??😎

Didn't u see how I made Abir realise he is wrong and should go back to Mishti?? 😆He ran like his ass was on fire.....🤣You should be thanking me mish bhabhi......warna abi tak ro rahe hote abir ka naam lekar

And I gave it to Kuhu also......ab dekho kaise chup chaap baiti hain iss forum main.....😆


@pink - I read it as carwashing initially 😉....my eyes are becoming crossed.....😆Hmmmm......kya kya imagine liya thaa......Abir without shirt washing the car.........Happy bday Shah❤️

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Onyourface

Happy Birthday Shaheer

aka Ahaaaaaa !!




Teri har adaa hai itni khoobsurat

Ho jaaye dekh ke hum sab ko hairat




Kya khuda ke pass hai itni fursat

Ke pyaari banayi usne teri har harkat


Image


Ho khushoyon mein teri aur barkat

Rang laaye zindagi ki har ibadat




Ab kya bataye kyun hai tujhse mohabbat

Tareef karma teri, ban gayi hai meri aadat





- Abir ki Uru aka FANTRO 😎



🤗🤗🤗🤗

Awwwwwww.......❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

Happy bday Shaheer.......😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Appu1981


I think we all agree that mishku equation is messed up. It’s basically added resentments if so many years. Kuhu keeps remembering all the apparent neglect she had to suffer bcoz of mishti .. for example the doll incident. Does that mean she was the only one to adjust or sacrifice?? Is her version 100% correct.. or is her version that BM /BP neglected her a distorted version??

We always see things the same way we want to, unless. Someone we respect, love or someone qualified shows us the reality. And kuhu is far away from reality. That does not mean she is not suffering or her issues are not real. abinal fails to understand that.

I also don’t understand that how come even after kuhu cools down she doesn’t realize how far she goes with her words and actions when mishti is concerned?? A human being will feel remorse and will apologize when the heat of the moment cools down.. but I have never seen her apologizing. This is not humane.And Now this madness is spilling away to abir as well

Like how kuhu is not happy with anything mishti does

If she works in kunal company then she is trying to undermine kunal

If she takes the ownership of the company she ya taking away kunal’s hard work

If she gives back the company it is bcoz she is a freeloaderabd wants to eat angoor with her freeloader husband

So kuhu herself doesn’t know what she is upset about and what she wants

And when kunal married her as a revenge, it was mishti’s fault

When kunal acknowledges Parul, it is mishti’s fault

Can she ever show anger at the right person?? If kunal consulted mishti or abir it was wrong of kunal that he didn’t talk to kuhu but kuhu again blames mishti.

she needs counseling and all these people are not seeing the ticking time bomb that is kuhu .


so there is no way mishti or anyone can resolve issues with kuhu as she has a deep rooted mental problem where she sees herself as a victim and mishti as her tormented. She definitely needs professional help, a shrink basically

I googled the term psychopath and Kuhu fits the bill.

It was like a checklist of Kuhu traits

Honestly, other than this there is no way she is justified for her extreme actions. Because, she basically doesn't know what she wants.

For her Mishti's actions are confusing. For me Kuhu's actions are confusing. She is basically unhappy with everything....kuch bhi kare.......🤔

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Mimzy

@bold - I mean why shouldn't I consider myself as a superstar??😎

Didn't u see how I made Abir realise he is wrong and should go back to Mishti?? 😆He ran like his ass was on fire.....🤣You should be thanking me mish bhabhi......warna abi tak ro rahe hote abir ka naam lekar

And I gave it to Kuhu also......ab dekho kaise chup chaap baiti hain iss forum main.....😆


@pink - I read it as carwashing initially 😉....my eyes are becoming crossed.....😆Hmmmm......kya kya imagine liya thaa......Abir without shirt washing the car.........Happy bday Shah❤️


Of course you are our Super⭐️!!!

Yeah, You knocked some sense into that impulsive banjara, otherwise bhatak gaya tha 🤔

Khud ko akal nahin hai kya that Mishti loves him?!

Good job Nanko 👍🏼

Bolna matt, Moni bhadak jayegi phir. Aaj jaldi so gayi lagti hai 😆


@pink

Uff, Miniiiiiii! Kya kar rahi hai? 😡 Now you have put that image in my head... washing car, wringing his drenched T ☺️😆 You wanted to write shirtless Shaheer, didn't you?... phir Abir kar diya, pakad liya 😆😆


Yes, Happy Birthday Super Shah!

I wished him on his AT ❤️

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