Babita's Patiala Babes Restaurant - E24 Segment - Page 2

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

That's exactly what I was thinking. If they didn't incorporate Hanita in some form or another, what story could they possibly have for Minnie? Just to give her emotional baggage, they ruined the precious bonds between a parent and child. Even if they wanted to keep Minnie as a focus, they could have shown so many different issues whilst still keeping Hanita around. Heck, it would have been far more interesting to see these problems with all three of them around and being given equal importance.

As it is, what's their goal right now? Minnie doesn't plan on staying back and I don't see her being too heavily invested in the restaurant since that was never her dream. GK and Naeem Bi are working there already so they can keep up with the day to day activities. If needed, they can hire someone else to cook or be a manager or whatever. Minnie's not really needed.

Arya doesn't want her around and is keen on making her leave. The main conflict is getting these two sisters to accept each other but then what?

For S1, Babita being emancipated was the main goal. That emancipation happening on multiple levels is what drove the show. Not being dependent on a man, becoming a working woman, being confident in her sexuality, etc. There were so many different tracks to be explored.

But what's there for Minnie after reconciling with Arya?

Well said Gur...

I don’t think this season will survive for long... Or if kk will create another La La land then that’s different case...

Originally posted by: Swetha-Sai

Very well said, Gur! 👏

@last line

Maybe they will start love story of Mini? 🤢

If they do, then that will be very hypocritical of them. What makes Minnie's love story more important than Babita's? To me, both of them should have been given equal importance. Both women, at different phases of their lives, learning to believe and then falling in love again would have been an extremely beautiful track to watch.

For Minnie, the constant doubt and insecurity of the man turning out to be like her father, but still wanting to take the risk because what if he ends up being like HS? Or her actually being in love but vehemently denying it and wanting to seek comfort in the friendship tag because it's safer.

For Babita, already being under one illusion of what love is, coming to find out the many other colors it holds. It's not just giving, or just about taking. It's a mutual relationship and it's best experienced by expressing those emotions openly and freely, without holding any fear or guilt. Her getting to explore herself, and her sexual desires without fear of being judged. It would have done wonders to boost her confidence.

Again, so much potential, gone to waste.

Originally posted by: Roopb

Well said Gur...

I don’t think this season will survive for long... Or if kk will create another La La land then that’s different case...

What are they going to sacrifice now? Main leads ko toh already khaa gaye, ab aur kaun bach gaya? Side characters? Arya?

They didn't build up a concept that can run for a very long time. Even right now, for how long can they show all these flashbacks? Moreover, what are they even doing to Minnie? Adding on more guilt and regret? What's the purpose of it other than adding onto her trauma? She has still decided to go off to Australia because she feels like she has no family. So I guess her grandparents mean nothing to her now. You know, the same ones whom she fought for and called Babita selfish. But I guess when it comes to Minnie sab chalta hai. 🤷🏽‍♀️

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

That's exactly what I was thinking. If they didn't incorporate Hanita in some form or another, what story could they possibly have for Minnie? Just to give her emotional baggage, they ruined the precious bonds between a parent and child. Even if they wanted to keep Minnie as a focus, they could have shown so many different issues whilst still keeping Hanita around. Heck, it would have been far more interesting to see these problems with all three of them around and being given equal importance.

As it is, what's their goal right now? Minnie doesn't plan on staying back and I don't see her being too heavily invested in the restaurant since that was never her dream. GK and Naeem Bi are working there already so they can keep up with the day to day activities. If needed, they can hire someone else to cook or be a manager or whatever. Minnie's not really needed.

Arya doesn't want her around and is keen on making her leave. The main conflict is getting these two sisters to accept each other but then what?

For S1, Babita being emancipated was the main goal. That emancipation happening on multiple levels is what drove the show. Not being dependent on a man, becoming a working woman, being confident in her sexuality, etc. There were so many different tracks to be explored.

But what's there for Minnie after reconciling with Arya?

Exactly! It was done solely to give immense emotional baggage to Mini in S2. They did end up ruining the connection Mini-Babes had, as well as Hanuman Uncle-Veer Balika's bond. Now, however much they tell us that Babita realized her mistakes, came out of victimhood and became a victor, this time on her own, doesn't make any difference. Whats the point of it when we didn't get to witness any of it? I also hate how they are insinuating that Hanita's marriage can't survive without Mini. I mean what was the freaking point of getting them married then? Didn't they preach that everyone should go for second marriage and all?

Also, how can Mini think she is just gonna go back to Australia? What about Arya? Bas aaya rakhne se hogayi uski parvarish? She can't rely on NB/Beeji as they are old. She, herself knows its not good for Arya to be raised by Saroj... then it has to be her taking care of Arya.

It seems Babita had certain ambition regarding her restaurant. Maybe Mini will try to fulfill those. I can see them making Mini sacrifice her travel photographer career (as is how is she gonna be a travel photographer staying in Patiala), and focus on becoming a successful businesswoman and taking PB restaurant to heights, as to fulfill Babita's dreams (again, sacrificial Mini 🤪)

@Bold - Exactly! S1 was largely focused on Babita's journey. Yeah, she became financially independent. But, her love story had immense potential as well. In my opinion, they could have given HS and Babita's love story much more focus than they did. After Imarti track, I would have preferred if Babita left the haveli.... and after initial struggle, Babita-HS reconciling and finding their way to each other, after realizing that they love each other a lot and can't stay apart. There was just so much potential here, instead they made them get married. Another missed track is Babita slowly being confident with her sexuality after marriage with HS's immense love and care. The intimacy issue and her not being ashamed of her desires had so much potential as well. Another missed plot is HS overcoming his childhood trauma and Babita and Mini helping him heal from it. Just so much freaking potential. But, nope they had to just bring up tracks that just focused on Mini 🤪.

How much can they really stretch Arya-Mini not liking each other or whatever. I see no story after Arya and Mini make that connection.

Originally posted by: deefy89

Me too. without speculating or trying to gossip it all points to the fact that something potentially went on behind the scenes between the production house and paridhi. I don’t know for sure but the way they’ve written the end of the character of babita compared to that of HS and also with AD somewhat being a part of the season 2 start compared to paridhi not being in it at all, makes me think this. Idk for sure tho and I could be entirely wrong. I don’t think they were favouring mini I think they somewhere along the line decided to switch the story to her (maybe they thought it will attract more of a reception idk?) but it’s obvious SOMETHING went on and everyone’s silent about it

The thing is that even if PH and Paridhi had some personal issues, what was the point of tarnishing Babita's character. Paridhi is not Babita, she's just portraying that character. I mean thats really petty and immature on KK's part to do that. Isn't Babita their own creation as well, like Mini and HS? Don't they feel anything for Babita's character? For their protagonist on whom S1 was largely based on? I mean how could they butcher their own protagonist to this extent and villianize her at the end. 🤔

I definitely do think the shift in the story and Hanita's characters came because writers were adamant on Mini being the central focus of the story. It was Hanita's wedding, but even then the focus was barely on Hanita, and largely on Mini. Even if they wanted to show a child being affected by parent's second marriage, great but at least execute it better by giving equal focus to all three character arcs and their POV. I definitely do believe it was the writers's biasedness towards Mini's character and the lack of balance between the three character that screwed up the story so bad and they had to take such hasty decision of killing HS and Babita and moving on with Mini and Arya in S2.

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

What are they going to sacrifice now? Main leads ko toh already khaa gaye, ab aur kaun bach gaya? Side characters? Arya?

They didn't build up a concept that can run for a very long time. Even right now, for how long can they show all these flashbacks? Moreover, what are they even doing to Minnie? Adding on more guilt and regret? What's the purpose of it other than adding onto her trauma? She has still decided to go off to Australia because she feels like she has no family. So I guess her grandparents mean nothing to her now. You know, the same ones whom she fought for and called Babita selfish. But I guess when it comes to Minnie sab chalta hai. 🤷🏽‍♀️

Lol exactly. How come her grandparents not mean anything to her now? When she said I have no family, I was like did you forget about your grandparents or they only meant something to you to say that Babita was selfish? They literally made Babita the scapegoat at every point to victimize Mini. 🤪

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

If they do, then that will be very hypocritical of them. What makes Minnie's love story more important than Babita's? To me, both of them should have been given equal importance. Both women, at different phases of their lives, learning to believe and then falling in love again would have been an extremely beautiful track to watch.

For Minnie, the constant doubt and insecurity of the man turning out to be like her father, but still wanting to take the risk because what if he ends up being like HS? Or her actually being in love but vehemently denying it and wanting to seek comfort in the friendship tag because it's safer.

For Babita, already being under one illusion of what love is, coming to find out the many other colors it holds. It's not just giving, or just about taking. It's a mutual relationship and it's best experienced by expressing those emotions openly and freely, without holding any fear or guilt. Her getting to explore herself, and her sexual desires without fear of being judged. It would have done wonders to boost her confidence.

Again, so much potential, gone to waste.

Exactly! If they focus on Mini's love story, I am just gonna roll my eyes because they always claimed this is not a love story. As is, I don't see much potential in Mini's love story, as there was in HS-Babita's love story.

@Bold - Like Gilmore Girls... How they gave equal importance and focus to both mother and daughter's love angle was just amazing.

Like you said, there just was so much potential in this show. Its truly a shame.

Why did they have to do all this.... This could have been easily fitted into the leap syndrome if they wanted.... To see this Babita growing up viewers would have been staying around but their sole focus was only Mini and they ruined the story....

What else do v have now apart from reconciliation of the sisters.... Or a love story for Mini.... Honestly they r still riding on Hanita and they r still needed for the story to take ahead.... No wonder they need AD if not PS to come on screen again and again to take up the story...

I am clueless about whatever its been shown now....

Originally posted by: LoveInAutumn26

Exactly! It was done solely to give immense emotional baggage to Mini in S2. They did end up ruining the connection Mini-Babes had, as well as Hanuman Uncle-Veer Balika's bond. Now, however much they tell us that Babita realized her mistakes, came out of victimhood and became a victor, this time on her own, doesn't make any difference. Whats the point of it when we didn't get to witness any of it? I also hate how they are insinuating that Hanita's marriage can't survive without Mini. I mean what was the freaking point of getting them married then? Didn't they preach that everyone should go for second marriage and all?

Also, how can Mini think she is just gonna go back to Australia? What about Arya? Bas aaya rakhne se hogayi uski parvarish? She can't rely on NB/Beeji as they are old. She, herself knows its not good for Arya to be raised by Saroj... then it has to be her taking care of Arya.

It seems Babita had certain ambition regarding her restaurant. Maybe Mini will try to fulfill those. I can see them making Mini sacrifice her travel photographer career (as is how is she gonna be a travel photographer staying in Patiala), and focus on becoming a successful businesswoman and taking PB restaurant to heights, as to fulfill Babita's dreams (again, sacrificial Mini 🤪)

@Bold - Exactly! S1 was largely focused on Babita's journey. Yeah, she became financially independent. But, her love story had immense potential as well. In my opinion, they could have given HS and Babita's love story much more focus than they did. After Imarti track, I would have preferred if Babita left the haveli.... and after initial struggle, Babita-HS reconciling and finding their way to each other, after realizing that they love each other a lot and can't stay apart. There was just so much potential here, instead they made them get married. Another missed track is Babita slowly being confident with her sexuality after marriage with HS's immense love and care. The intimacy issue and her not being ashamed of her desires had so much potential as well. Another missed plot is HS overcoming his childhood trauma and Babita and Mini helping him heal from it. Just so much freaking potential. But, nope they had to just bring up tracks that just focused on Mini 🤪.

How much can they really stretch Arya-Mini not liking each other or whatever. I see no story after Arya and Mini make that connection.

No matter what they say, it doesn't matter because the audience didn't get to see it. It's like in the case of J.K. Rowling and her proclaiming that Dumbledore is gay. Okay, great. We have one LGBTQ character but why wasn't it made canon within the texts itself? By omitting such a crucial detail, she has left made him incomplete. Those who only watch the movies or only read the books will never know about his identity. It will again beg the question of why proclaim him to be gay at all?

I find Babita's case to be similar. What's the point of keeping all her growth whether it's in regards to her intimacy or career on implied mode? Would it not have had a greater impact if we got to see it rather than be told about it? They have left her journey greatly incomplete. At this point, anyone can come in and say something about Babita and we will have to take it at face value since she's not here to defend herself. Moreover, everyone has a different opinion on her and the events that played out. Rather than speaking ill of her post her death, they might glorify or romanticize her actions so that Minnie has something fond to remember her by.

Loll, don't you remember? The second shaadi was done to slap back at society. They didn't do it for love. 🤪

Because Minnie is being selfish and only thinking about herself right now. Yes, she's going through a lot right now but so is Arya. Does she ever plan on coming back to Patiala? Or connecting with Arya when she's older? It's a really stressful situation but she needs to buck up and take on this responsibility. No one's telling her to do it alone since she obviously will have everyone around her to help her out but she doesn't even want to do the bare minimum right now.

Okay... but how is she gonna do that?? Babita was the one with the magic touch when it came to cooking, not her. What is she going to do, live out the rest of her life fulfilling her mother's dreams? Then is Arya expected to tell Veer Balika to go live out her own dreams? To be a victor and not a victim? It's all so bogus.

Hanita's love story had the potential to be EPIC. It truly could've easily been one of the most beautifully narrated stories that we've came across on ITV. There was an abundance of tracks that they could've explored: Babita's intimacy issues, HS overcompensating for failing to protect his mom, him getting over Imarti (I don't think that chapter was still properly closed), Babita learning to deal with HS' high risk job, pregnancy, financial complications with Babita earning more than HS and the list just goes on and on.

But na ji na, KK toh sirf Minnie ki pari hui hai. Story jaye bhaad mein, bas Minnie ko dekhana hai.

Originally posted by: LoveInAutumn26

Lol exactly. How come her grandparents not mean anything to her now? When she said I have no family, I was like did you forget about your grandparents or they only meant something to you to say that Babita was selfish? They literally made Babita the scapegoat at every point to victimize Mini. 🤪

All the drama that they showed was utterly pointless. Whether it was the grandparents, Mickey ka faltu soulmate wala, the birthday, sara kuch bhi tha. There was no point to it except to show a bechari Minnie dukh ki maari. Lo, ab toh dukh dene wali bhi mar gayi phir bhi iski hai hai band ni hori.