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Posted: 8 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: Ctrl-Alt-Del



<font face="Courier New, Courier, mono" color="#0099cc">I'm not talking about this task or Manu at all.. the point is we are not capable of judging that what is how much important for anyone..what we see in others is a reflection of ourselves.. we think that how would I react in such situation so if the person is not reacting like me then there must be some prob.. but each person is an individual.. each person think differently, feel differently and different things have different value for different people.. Om said bad things about Rohan's father and he did not reacted at all.. Bani's reaction shattered the walls of Bigg Boss house.. Manu just slow clapped and said 'Get Well Soon' to Priyanka when she sad bad things about his dead mother but about to hit Om when he said bad things about his girlfriend Piku.. Bani just made faces when Om said that she and Gaurav has an intimate relation and what they did in video is no different than reality.. Lopa cried and abused hysterically when Priyanka attacked on her character by saying disgusting things.. so calling anyone's reaction OTT or just for footage is not only insensitive but unfair too imho as we don't know at all how they feel at that particular moment..</font>

Very well said..great post!!!
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Posted: 8 years ago
#52

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yeah say much rubbish to anyone and say sorry! 7 khoon maaf..wkw par "man of the week Mannu because he is mahan and said sorry "


Well tell that to Bani who spoke shit about Manveer and Mona and later did a half assed job of saying sorry and thought that was enough. And so did all her supporters btw.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: Ctrl-Alt-Del


When Salman showed unedited version of Priyanka's abuses on weekend and Lopa started crying hysterically once again while watching.. did you find that OTT or not.. ? just curious.. because if you find that OTT too then I can understand your statement but if not then I can see from where it is coming.. 😕


That is not a comparable example, IMO. Jagga's nastiness was shown to Lopa again, word for word - she had to hear and see it all again, just like when it happened. Not so the case here - Baba did not reiterate what he had said - his words were not recounted to Bani, neither was the scene shown to her again.

The topic, when brought up, did not even touch on what Baba said to Bani, and/or how she reacted - it was brought up to reference the push she dealt Baba then. Bani herself references the issue every time she reiterates her Baba-boycott - I don't see how a 'you also pushed Baba when he made the comment on your mum' brings up the issue for her, any more than her own reference to it.

Despite having found Bani's reactions OTT on many occasions, I had given Bani a free pass for her reaction to Baba at the time - and should the scene ever be recounted to her as Jagga's was to Lopa, I would likewise give Bani a free pass to react as she needs to. That did not happen today, however.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#54

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That is not a comparable example, IMO. Jagga's nastiness was shown to Lopa again, word for word - she had to hear and see it all again, just like when it happened. Not so the case here - Baba did not reiterate what he had said - his words were not recounted to Bani, neither was the scene shown to her again.

The topic, when brought up, did not even touch on what Baba said to Bani, and/or how she reacted - it was brought up to reference the push she dealt Baba then. Bani herself has said variations of 'I don't speak to Baba at all since my mum thing' throughout her Baba-boycott - I don't see how a 'you also pushed Baba when he made the comment on your mum' brings up the issue for her, any more than her own reference to it.

Despite having found Bani's reactions OTT on many occasions, I had given Bani a free pass for her reaction to Baba at the time - and should the scene ever be recounted to her as Jagga's was to Lopa, I would likewise give Bani a free pass to react as she needs to. That did not happen today, however.


I actually don't blame Manu that why he mentioned that incident.. because I'm not sure if he did it intentionally to get some footage by getting her reaction as he said once that he got lots of footage owing to Bani..or if he really got too much into character and in eagerness of winning the case mentioned that point to prove Bani wrong.. but I'm disgusted by his accusation that her reaction is OTT and just for footage.. as I said to Tankia, we are no one to judge anyone's reaction at all because each person is an individual and don't think like us or any other person..
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Posted: 8 years ago
#55
When your manu said all those things about her mother he wasnt a "lawyer" that time.Main fight started after the task.so dont give those explination about him doing it bcz of the task.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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My take on the whole thing (it's contrary, as usual, to the popular view 😆):

As a lawyer, Manu was perfectly right to reference Bani's own push to Baba - if a witness has done one of the things the defendant is accused of, they're not a good witness. Makes sense. Bani should've simply answered the question.

I don't see how it was insensitive either - Bani herself brings it up every time she reiterates her Baba-boycott - when she says she doesn't speak to him anymore, does she not recall why? Manu's reference to it, in the context of the push, doesn't bring it up any more than Bani does herself. He did not touch on what Baba said to her at all - he most definitely did not bring her mother into it.

What was un-lawyerly of Manu, was to slyly slide in the question of Bani's utter lack of empathy towards Manu when Jagga mocked his mother's death. I completely agree that that wasn't needed in the line of questioning. But do people really believe that Manu was never going to call Bani out on this? He saw an opening, and he took it.

And this, predictably, is when Bani really flew off the handle - as she is wont to do whenever she's called out/criticised for her behaviour. Again - she could've responded. She could've fought back with words. But she chose to go off tangent, repeat herself a dozen times, twist it to being about her mother - which it wasn't, and do her trademark walk-off.

As for the kitchen incident, after the task. Manu knows he didn't talk about Bani's mother - he knows he did not reference the issue for that - and yet Bani made it about that, and stretched it incessantly. So he asked her - was she doing that for footage? That, as in TODAY - in the JUDGE task - not when she reacted to Baba's comment originally, as Bani took it, and as many viewers seem to have taken it.

I don't agree with Manu on that though. When Bani spoke to the cameras, I found her words genuine - she said she would never use the mum-card for sympathy, and I believe her. I don't agree that Bani did it for footage - I do think, however, that she overreacted - she unnecessarily twisted and blew the matter entirely out of proportion, IMO. And this ensured that she didn't actually answer either of the questions posed - which, as I said above, is likewise predictable.
Edited by SP2684 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: SP2684

I don't see how it was insensitive either - Bani herself brings it up every time she reiterates her Baba-boycott - when she says she doesn't speak to him anymore, does she not recall why? Manu's reference to it, in the context of the push, doesn't bring it up any more than Bani does herself. He did not touch on what Baba said to her at all - he most definitely did not bring her mother into it.


Just wanna answer your this point.. yes, she herself brings it up every time she reiterates her baba-boycott.. but what I want to say is that emotions are a complicated thing.. you can talk about the same subject calmly one time but other time it can upset you.. perhaps when you talk about it then you talk from that angle that is bearable for you i.e. this person hurt me so I won't talk to him.. he doesn't deserve my attention.. with your anger you try to suppress the heartache that you felt.. but when someone else mention that incident again and ask you did you pushed him.. you think about it and then start living those moments again.. what I was feeling at that time.. if I pushed him.. yes, I pushed him.. what was I feeling when I pushed him.. and then you start feeling that heartache once again.. the thing is emotions are a very complicated thing.. when you are feeling some emotions that you can feel it, live it.. but making someone else understand what you felt and why you reacted in some hyper way is almost impossible..

In your other post you said that Lopa reacted that way because she had to hear and see it all again.. but Baba did not reiterate what he had said.. again its YOU who're thinking that when words are reiterated then one is justified to react but if words are not reiterated then its not.. what we see in others is a reflection of ourselves.. we think that how would I react in such situation so if the person is not reacting like me then there must be some prob.. but each person is an individual.. each person think differently. feel differently and thus react differently too.. it was said about Lopa too that she was doing drama in front of Salman.. but what's happening in someone's mind only that person know so I'll again say we are not capable of criticizing emotions of anyone..

Here I wanna say one more thing.. why Rohan did not reacted when baba said bad things about his father but lost his cool when Manveer called him Chamak Challo.. who knows as he looks not very manly guy so he has already faced such comment in his real life so he got real angry fearing that this tag may not stick to him.. but he's confident about his father so he didn't feel like reacting.. same is the case with Bani.. her mom is a single mother and is fighting with cancer from Bani's childhood.. she has spend her life in fear of losing her mother.. so it has become her weakness.. this topic is touchy for her so reaction is overreaction for many.. because those people won't react the Bani's way if it was said to them.. but they forget that their life is not like Bani's life too..

In the end I just wanna say that I'd like to make a long accusation post about some contestant on the basis that her foot was out of the shoe so she won the task by cheating.. or that she lied to Navin about Bani.. but I will never make a post that she was doing drama when she was crying.. when I don't know any person's sate of mind and emotional vulnerability then I've no right to make any such claim..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ctrl-Alt-Del


Just wanna answer your this point.. yes, she herself brings it up every time she reiterates her baba-boycott.. but what I want to say is that emotions are a complicated thing.. you can talk about the same subject calmly one time but other time it can upset you.. perhaps when you talk about it then you talk from that angle that is bearable for you i.e. this person hurt me so I won't talk to him.. he doesn't deserve my attention.. with your anger you try to suppress the heartache that you felt.. but when someone else mention that incident again and ask you did you pushed him.. you think about it and then start living those moments again.. what I was feeling at that time.. if I pushed him.. yes, I pushed him.. what was I feeling when I pushed him.. and then you start feeling that heartache once again.. the thing is emotions are a very complicated thing.. when you are feeling some emotions that you can feel it, live it.. but making someone else understand what you felt and why you reacted in some hyper way is almost impossible..

In your other post you said that Lopa reacted that way because she had to hear and see it all again.. but Baba did not reiterate what he had said.. again its YOU who're thinking that when words are reiterated then one is justified to react but if words are not reiterated then its not.. what we see in others is a reflection of ourselves.. we think that how would I react in such situation so if the person is not reacting like me then there must be some prob.. but each person is an individual.. each person think differently. feel differently and thus react differently too.. it was said about Lopa too that she was doing drama in front of Salman.. but what's happening in someone's mind only that person know so I'll again say we are not capable of criticizing emotions of anyone..

Here I wanna say one more thing.. why Rohan did not reacted when baba said bad things about his father but lost his cool when Manveer called him Chamak Challo.. who knows as he looks not very manly guy so he has already faced such comment in his real life so he got real angry fearing that this tag may not stick to him.. but he's confident about his father so he didn't feel like reacting.. same is the case with Bani.. her mom is a single mother and is fighting with cancer from Bani's childhood.. she has spend her life in fear of losing her mother.. so it has become her weakness.. this topic is touchy for her so reaction is overreaction for many.. because those people won't react the Bani's way if it was said to them.. but they forget that their life is not like Bani's life too..

In the end I just wanna say that I'd like to make a long accusation post about some contestant on the basis that her foot was out of the shoe so she won the task by cheating.. or that she lied to Navin about Bani.. but I will never make a post that she was doing drama when she was crying.. when I don't know any person's sate of mind and emotional vulnerability then I've no right to make any such claim..


I can agree that emotions are complex, but I think it's both naive and unrealistic to expect that an incident that has happened on the show will never be referenced again. The fact remains that Bani did push Baba. It is another thing that I, as did many others, gave her a free pass for that reaction, even though I do not condone violence.

The question was definitely applicable therein, and I see no reason why it should not be asked, particularly when it is not in the context of the comment made on her mum. If it was - I'd call it insensitive too. She wasn't asked to go into her thought process as to why she pushed Baba, etc - the question was simply that she pushed him.

Tomorrow, Salman could reference it - a panelist could, in relation to the violence that has happened this season - I'm not going to find them insensitive either, and I don't see Bani flying off the handle - as she did today - should one of them ask it. Like I said - Manu brought up the issue, but not any more than Bani does herself - in that he did not question her reasons at all. And as such, I honestly don't identify with Bani reacting thus at the mere mention.

I am not talking about whether Lopa's reaction is justified or not - I merely said that it is not a comparable example. Had Lopa reacted like that upon someone asking her whether she also abused Jagga in return, I would agree to the comparison. But there is a major difference - here the context wasn't even on what Baba said to Bani - it was strictly limited to Bani's push. Yes some people thought Lopa's reaction was a drama - I found it genuine. But it all depends on how something comes across to you - as I'm certain you agree.

As for the notion that people watching cannot judge Bani's reactions because they're not in her situation - you don't know that. Many viewers may have it far worse than she does - and some may be in exactly the same boat, and still not identify with her reaction. It's not necessary that any two people in the same situation react exactly the same way. It's subjective. And most perspectives will be a combination of what one sees and thinks. It is why many, including myself, found Lopa's point during the Manveer-Gaurav captaincy task correct, but her crying over it OTT and unnecessary.

You limit yourself from commenting on contestants' reactions - but many viewers will not, and I see nothing wrong with that - each to their own. I can only speak for myself - because the issue is sensitive, I refrained from commenting on Bani's reaction when it happened. But I don't agree that such a reaction is warranted when the incident is merely referenced in a different context.
Edited by SP2684 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Just like another user said, there was no need for Bani to explain why she pushed Baba. I think it could be because she wanted to prove that she wasn't as wrong as Rohan was in pushing Baba? Maybe she felt she would be reprimanded for that action which BB may have forgotten. It seems silly but so was her rant on the witness stand. She just had to say yes or no like Lopa did. But she explained her reasons, clearly to prove that her push wasn't as malicious as Rohan's?
Also, I cringed at the way she went up to Manu shouting "Kya bola tumne mujhe" and then banged on the table. Who does that? Not somebody who prides in being able to avoid people and stay calm and composed for sure. Itni badi toh baat hi nahi hui yaar. Even if Manu asked her that question because she hadn't reacted when Jagga said those things about his mom, why was that unfair? If she is so touchy about her mom, can't he be touchy about his? If her reaction is acceptable, no matter to what limit it goes, why can't his reaction be acceptable as asking touchy questions in the task? I don't think personally that he had that in mind though. He just wanted to prove Bani a bad witness. She escalated the matter to another level, and hence the footage comment.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Manu played the laywer very nicely and in real doesn't support OM. He's doing it for the task.

Bani was overracting like a brainless monkey the way she was jumping up and down. She didn't get much support because she was full of shit the whole time. Manu was spot on that she's overracting, and didn't say anything negative about her mother. Brainless oaf of a woman Bani is, overracting as if Manu said anything about her mother. Disgusting cheap fake woman. I hope she gets eliminated since I can't stand seeing this hypocrite shit woman, cheap and sick the way she keeps using the mother card and going off in a different tangent. Seriously hate her a lot, I mean I hate her then I did of any other contestant from the previous season. 😆

Her reaction wasn't natural whatsoever.

Lopa (of which her fans are hating on Manu a lot lately) agreed with Manu and thought what he did was right.
Edited by Sarahbelle - 8 years ago

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