Blast from the Past Thread #29 **Aana To Tha Hi** Pg 23, Epi 346 - Page 15

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Originally posted by: indi52

episode 334

to be sure, man's search for meaning may arouse inner tension rather than inner equilibrium. however, precisely such tension is an indispensable prerequisite of mental health. there is nothing in the world, i venture to say, that would so effectively help one to survive even the worst conditions as the knowledge that there is a meaning in one's life. there is much wisdom in the words of nietzsche: "he who has a why to live for can bear almost any how".

~~~ viktor e frankl ~~~
How true are the above lines. Highly philosophical, but axiom truth.

i remember being extremely moved by this book, man's search for meaning, from which that quote comes, when i read it a few years ago. the thoughts and work of an eminent psychiatrist who had lived through the hell of a concentration camp. his inspired observations about human nature in that state of extreme suffering and humiliation. and his ever steadying belief that those who survived were the ones who had a sense of purpose, a "meaning" i
n their lives.
i have forgotten most of what i read.

but in the relationship of asr with his sister anjali, i felt that search for meaning; that need for something to live for... in a very young boy suddenly cut off from stability and a sense of "normal" in his life.

di was not just someone he loved... di was the one because of whom he found the urge to live... to conquer... to show "himmat". 
Yes indeed.

when di felt happy, he felt everything was alright... he had said the episode before. a moving look into the character of an apparently cold hard arrogant man.

i'd written in 333 that perhaps khushi, the one we had met initially, had sensed his non-negotiable need for his sister. how fundamental she was to his sense of well being... of his "normal". because nothing really was normal in his life that night onward. yet, brave and arced toward overcoming odds, he had held onto the one thing he could, his sister's responsibility... and forged ahead.

when he broke down before khushi and said he was a failure for not having succeeded in protecting his sister, i'd hoped she would show her ken and say things that heal him, love him, tell him he has succeeded, in his own way. just by doing what he has, he has done that... that even though it might not seem so at the moment, yet, he has not really failed.

"aapke amma babu ji ke saath jo kuchh bhi hua... di ke saath jo kuchh bhi hua... aap unhen nahin badal sakte hain, arnav ji..." she said instead, eyes streaming, her voice neat and pert and at a distance from her words.

such pat words. what happened to your parents and to your sister... you can't change them, arnav ji.

and so sanctimonious too... also utterly wrong. neither is the content accurate nor the timing conscientious.

when a man who has tried with all he has, is vulnerable, that's not the time to lecture him or tell him he can't influence things. a complete insensitivity from a beautiful woman when the person who has grown to trust her needs her most.

and if we take an attitude of "nahin badal sakte hain," can't change a thing... where would we be?
I think Khushi was not wrong here. She tried to make him accept the fact. There is something in our life what is not in our hand. as much as we try we never can change, fix or mend. and this is called fate. As human being our power is limited. I think Khushi tried to say that rather giving him fake condolence. But didn't she say that you will fix everything.

it really doesn't matter what a tv serial says and yet it begins to matter when something in it feels so right, so worth spending time on, pondering.

the attitude to life of one asr... who shows himmat... who grapples with vicissitudes, who refuses to accept defeat, just makes me want to do so. today he reminded me of people who have faced great suffering and overcome.

words like magnificent are reserved for elevated, exalted characters of high literaure. maybe because i was never clever enough to get the high stuff, nor patient enough to linger and find out what made them high, arnav singh raizada had to come into my bedroom one midnight. the witching hour.
haww

tv serials don't have a philosophy and yet... they really do.

i disagreed vehemently with this part of the episode.

i have severe problems with talk of fate and "bhagya" unless it is done in a considered wise manner, this was in defeatist vein... as far as i am concerned and to use my aching hero's word, this is "galat". not "sahi" at all.
I just gave you my opinion about fate above.😛I do believe in fate. Because I have seen my very own people suffered because of this fate or destiny, whatever you may call it.

"di ko aise haal mein nahin dekh sakta..." can't see di in this state... said the man who keeps things real and even in failure seems to triumph. aristotle's tragic hero aroused pity and fear... he made an error of judgement that led to his downfall. even if i'd never read anything about the greek tragic hero, i'd have known through all i have seen and right now in the hoarsely whispered sentences, the tortured look, the refusal to give in, that sense of something larger than life, a call to the deepest human traits, the most gorgeous, to rise and prevail no matter what... that here indeed was a "hero" and his failure would really be a tragedy.
beautiful analysis

he achieved this without a trace of sanctimoniousness or know all holier than thouness. by just being a man. a human with all his humanness. if that isn't breath taking, what is.

most "heroes" have soliloquies, "quotable quotes", chances to hold forth... or they have salim javed dialogues at the very least. here he rarely says anything specially special, hardly speaks. usually a couple of words, sometimes a sentence, maybe two. and yet he says so much, paints a fascinating character with mere gazes, pauses, body language, tone of voice, a no nonsense air... and yes, action. always sharp, focussed action; taken because he believes he needs to take them... taking responsibility for his every act in the deepest sense. never blaming another or expecting life to come and somehow get things done for him.

i do believe the actor made asr much more than anyone thought he would. he found the man within the words and dialogues... he found the parts that were not written about and filled in the blanks and by doing so he created an unforgettable man.👍🏼

it was very clear in the narrative that asr loved his sister beyond a point. but why and exactly what she meant to him i think was revealed by the actor... by understanding why she mattered so much...


i was looking for mami's deadly dialogues in 43 and 44 when i saw this scene... he was a little astonished when he saw the laughter filled family scene in the kitchen, then he smiled... happy to see anjali carefree and so in love with shyam... and even as he watched, a change to a tender expression, almost a helpless one. when something is priceless to us, when we almost can't live without it... i'd imagine that's how we'd look.

when khushi had been completely broken by her father's paralytic attack, he had come running but not been able to somehow give her what she needed. he'd pondered the issue, felt extreme pain and perhaps remorse that he had failed. and the next day when unwittingly he'd made her feel helpless, he had gone back... again that smart sharp focussed action... to help in a concrete way, a way he understood... and paid all the bills. and when she had started fraying before him again... he had walked right up to her this time and consoled her the way he perhaps didn't know he could, bit this time he didn't want to fail her. he wanted to be there for her... and he was.

if i'd expected sensitivity from khushi here, can i be blamed? this was iss pyaar ko and it sparkled with inspired moments, after all.

and their hold was so binding that even after more than hundred episodes of things going strange, we still hoped. almost every episode... right up to the end, i had thought, maybe now, now at last things would take a turn and we'd get ipk back.

bhagya talk apart, the writing also veered the way of all serials. suddenly khushi has to give him the strength, give "vada" that all will be well, have "vishwas" he can do it. really? does he need all that to get things done?

instead of mahaan bharatiya naari, had they let khushi be khsuhi, she may have come up with far more valid ways to express her strength and indispensability in asr's life at this moment. 

off we went to heavy duty reentry of shyam..
.. director is in utter love with baddie.. 😆 i think this "sweetening" of the not so goodie hero is telling on the director... he needs his bad boy fix. gah, so do i so do i, mr director... and shyam doesn't even know the first thing of what makes a bad boy really bad.

shyam plunged into all his natak. while khushi said to asr, "aap jaaiye hum aapke saath hai... hum dono milkar dii ko sambhaal lenge..." you go, the two of us together will tackle everything.

huh? so now he can't even handle his sis alone? oh he needs khushi he needs khushi... she the ultimate mahaan heroine of hindi soap. all i can really say is, what the.

i needn't have worried about asr though... barun sobti made sure whatever little the writers were willing to grant him, he'd turn into gold.

while all waffled and "acted", he just went about being real... and really angry.

"how dare you!"
through clenched teeth upon seeing shyam. hand was out and grabbing a collar before anyone could say anything...

"yahan aane ki ijaazat kissne di tumhe..."
who gave you the permission to come here, he grated... "mere di ke paas aane ki himmat kaise ki tumne?" how dare you come anywhere near my di...

di is his responsibility, no one messes with that. he has been fooled once. will he be again... i think. yeah, actually, even this round, i wanted to see if even for a moment he was taken in.

one tight slap was given and i had my answer.

no, never again will this man be fooled. he is shatir, he might have been fooled once but he learns his lessons. that makes him a hero to me, a sharp one, a human one. to never err is just unreal... even gods make mistakes.

"baap hain hum..."
i am a father... wheedled shyam trying to turn the tide.

"kuchh nahin ho tum.  d'you understand that?... kuchh nahin,"
you're nothing, replied asr. hardly any words, yet each one apt... and delivered in a way, one will never forget.

"iss aadmi ka mere di par koi haq nahin hai... aaj di ka jo halat hai woh sirf  inki wajah se hai..."
this man has no right over my sister... if my di is in thsi state today it's because of him and him alone... he told his rather irritating and obnoxious grandmother.


he beat up shyam despite all the drama from dadi and khushi's frankly not at all understandable "don't do it" looks.

"jab tak main zinda hoon, yeh insaan mere ghar mein kabhi kadam nahin rakhega..."
as long as i am alive this man will not enter my home. i wanted to maaro seetee and hug the chap. of course, his own lover will betray him and then he will have to apologise... ah well.

but for now... yay asr, way to go.

my smart man can sense a game.

he strides into his di's room, a purpose propels him, he is no longer falling apart and unsure. meaning... it always centres him.

he has found the meaning in this moment. his duty. he needs something to focus on too... di must go home. shyam might get here without anyone's permission.

of course, he has no idea his sister herself has already started cheating and lying about shyam.

ah, i feel for this man.

and i am touched by his open large mind, when he holds nothing against khushi and anjali even after knowing what they've done.

"koi bhi, and i mean it... koi bhi shyam ko iss ghar mein wapas laane ka baat dobara nahin karega... and i mean it." no one, and i mean it, will speak again of bringing shyam back to this house... he tells everyone at home, glaring specifically at dadi. he possibly doesn't even remotely think khushi needs to be told this.

"never again." interestingly those are words connected with the holocaust, there was something much more than a tv soap going awry in this episode.

when he goes back into anjali's room and looks at her... again that need, that vulnerability. i wonder now, did anjali ever know how much she meant to him? and maybe because he loved her so much, he could forgive her that easily?

a new piece of music as he looks at di lying unwell and sits by her, remembering... loving...being himself.




edit:
soon after writing this, i read a piece by columnist frank bruni on higher education and its need... its contribution to growing us, in ways hard to quantify. he speaks of a teacher of his who threw all of herself into teaching "lear". her delivery of three simple words, "stay a little," words lear says to his dearest daughter cordelia as she slips away, linger in his mind and he recalls how her way of teaching let him get the maximum out of the texts...

"'Stay a little.' She showed how that simple request harbored such grand anguish, capturing a fallen king's hunger for connection and his tenuous hold on sanity and contentment. And thus she taught us how much weight a few syllables can carry, how powerful the muscle of language can be.

She demonstrated the rewards of close attention. And the way she did this " her eyes wild with fervor, her body aquiver with delight " was an encouragement of passion and a validation of the pleasure to be wrung from art. It informed all my reading from then on. It colored the way I listened to people and even watched TV.

It transformed me."

i thought of barun sobti and his asr. his way of saying the simplest of words having understood and internalised the meaning of them, their entire context and content... did touch me and maybe even transformed me. it's such a wonderful feeling to know and marvel at a character, a man who doesn't exist... takes you places; maybe even the loony bin. but i suspect it enriches you even then.


the analysis is splendid. I don't have the right words actually.
 i loved how you analysed ASR's conflicting emotions, his turbulent mind. it was not a easy day for him. 
He is such a man whose love is enormous, unconditional, whetehr it is anjali or khushi. he was surely a larger than life kind of character what Barun sobti made even greater. 
the lines I marked bold-blue stood out for me and I have some comments in purple.
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Posted: 9 years ago
 

Episode 342




First Telecast Thursday,  14th September 2012


Full episode links 
 
Star Plus clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLr9Z5tZh9o 



Thanks Katelyn, for the links.


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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Horizon

Episode 341:


Her callow dreaming of this all showy bollywood hero brought an amusement, a glint of mischief into his eyes ... is this girl for real... 

                    


Her one complaint that he didn't love her.. promptly diffused all the color from his eyes, face... he didn't like to even joke.. not about his love for her...that took many months of inner churning, agony and adversity to finally find its way...anger and pain exuding .. .. he looked at her in a way that would have halted an apocalypse from hitting..

        


He didn't believe in the color of haldi, or what it means... he didn't believe in the color of mehendi... or lack there of... all he believed was the doors of kaleidoscope this perennially colorful girl opened him to...and a hint of the color that suffuses at the tip of her nose in his vicinity... And only in his vicinity..."why/ how did you say khushi i didn't love you?"




wonderful edits and lovely musing. haldi had its moments, didn't it... funny, light, flirtatious and sometimes absolutely stunningly adult... intimate, almost as if even the camera weren't there.
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Why this place is so gloomy! Where are the girls?
The best dialogue from 342 is
In dono itna light marenge to suhaag raat mein batti kaun bujhayenge...I guess something like that. I don't remember word by word. It was so hilarious. And my man, his smoldering look at his beautiful bride, making me crazy. Khushi was looking too sexy in Bengali attire. 
the man actually was too engrossed watching his sexy girl that became oblivious of shyam's presence. Shyam's lascivious look to khushi was disgusting. I loved nk too much for giving shyam a glacial stare. He is khushi's bestest friend who always stood by her side in all circumstance.
Feeling so bad for garimA. Poor woman was tremulous in fear. But one thing I didn't get it, do people look different with haldi smeared face? How dadi could not recognize her!

Damn why they edited this Palm kiss?
Edited by sohara - 9 years ago
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So many scenes were edited from the show.
During haldi, Arnav pulled khushi by her waist and there must be some romantic dance too, but they didn't show it to us.
Look at this pic. I think they shot payal and nani's dance, but they didn't shoot Arnav and khushi's dance. His hold on her waist looks so sensuous. And it must be a strong pull what made khushi leaned back. Sigh we missed this romance too.😡





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Barun did one episode of a show in colors channel. It's a show called code red, it's a crime thriller type show based on real life stories. Previously Akshay and deepali also did one episode. 
Kritika kamra acted with him.
Though I'm happy to see him on screen after a long time,but not so excited. This is not so popular show where barun can act.
Anyway something is better than nothing.
By the way please tweet for a new show with barun and sanaya on February 28th from 8 to 9 pm India time.
I can't give you the link from my iPad right now. 
But will give you later after going home.
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Episode 343 
(Maha-Episode)



First Telecast Saturday,  15th September 2012


Full episode links 
 



Thanks Katelyn, for the links.

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Originally posted by: sohara

Barun did one episode of a show in colors channel. It's a show called code red, it's a crime thriller type show based on real life stories. Previously Akshay and deepali also did one episode. 

Kritika kamra acted with him.
Though I'm happy to see him on screen after a long time,but not so excited. This is not so popular show where barun can act.
Anyway something is better than nothing.
By the way please tweet for a new show with barun and sanaya on February 28th from 8 to 9 pm India time.
I can't give you the link from my iPad right now. 
But will give you later after going home.


Hi Sohara Barun did an episode? Now? wow.. you mean he actually acted in something which came on TV? Agree with you, happy to see him on screen, but really when will we see him in roles that were meant for an actor his calibre. It's depressing waiting this way.. I don't know how you all have done it for years after IPK ended.

Will join the tweeting madness.. devi maiyya might give in to our wishes some day..

Enjoyed your short take on the haldi.. main points.. man besotted with girl.. Initially I took some time getting used to Khushi's jewellery, then in an off screen segment she mentioned they were real flowers.. I was happy that some department, other than acting, in IPK was still trying to give in their best. 

About Shyam.. With you on your thoughts there.. dhup sa man was too besotted with chandini si girl to care about Shyam babua.. 

mamiji's dialogue I had forgotten.. hilarious.. thanks for the reminder.. pagal but cute is mamiji too, hai na? 

One of my favourite scenes here was when Akash and Payal walked in on man in besharam mood with his wife.. hahaha.. do you remember Akash's baffled expression? 

Oh and thank you for reading my takes and enjoying that vm. Sorry I haven't been able to individually reply.
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Posted: 9 years ago
Hi Sohara,

Hope your padhai vadhai is going great...miss you around... not that there is much going on here...Gloomy it is... indeed...that too for haldi...

But for NK to say about SR, wonder how/ anyone there for that matter be sure that it hasn't happened already.. afterall che mahine room mates reh chuke hain...😆

He seem to have got a hair trim at least if not a cut and looked super hot... although I am not a specific fan of Khushi's shakuntala look.. but the blasting chemistry made up for anything /everything..


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Rhea, Indi thanks for commenting on that 341 piece. he was much taken aback by her comment of not loving her truly.. and said a lot without really saying anything..